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MATCH THREAD (+POST p23): Charlton Athl v Cray Valley PM: FA Cup šŸ†1st Rd: Sun 5 Nov 2023 | KO 17:30

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    Alright. Well done Micky. I no longer like you.Ā 
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    LouisMend said:
    His got no choice but to take the blame it was him who picked the side we could have told him thatĀ 

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    At least May and Leaburn are cup tied so maybe that is a positive.
    Appleton is a major negative after today in my eyes.
    I have not seen the media but I suspect Appleton will blame it on the players whilst over heaping praise on Cray Valley Paper Mills.

    Ā What excuse did he come up with?

    Anything other than...

    "In my arrogance, and with disrespect to our opponents and our fans, and the TV audience, I made eleven changes. Clearly Cray Valley Paper Mills were laughing at such a stupid decision because it was always going to weaken us and give them a decent chance against an unsettled and unfamiliar team.
    I realise now what was clear to others it was the wrong thing to do, I am ashamed, and ashamed that I have humiliated Charlton Athletic today. I can't change what has occurred, but maybe it would help if I paid for all the Charlton fans today to attend the replay wherever it is held, and for that game I intend to field the strongest team possible. Another alternative is to tend my resignation, and if I am obliged to leave immediately with no pay off I would accept that decision."

    ...would in my eyes make him deluded.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    "South London minnows earn a draw at the valley....
    Cray valley paper mills played their part to!"

    On Palace/Millwall forums up & down the land no doubt. :-(
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,502
    We're hopeless without Blackett-Taylor and/or Aneke. Very little presence up front. That's got to be addressed in January.Ā 
  • We've got another opportunity to put it right and hopefully we will.Ā  Positive there Apples.
  • Wellred said:
    Wellred said:
    Wellred said:
    Absolutely dreadful performance from firstly the manager for picking that starting 11Ā 
    & Secondly the team for not being able to beat Cray
    If they can't even do that what are these players doing in our squad?
    OK we will win the replay but that's not the point it's just another game we could do withoutĀ 
    Total disgraceĀ 
    We will win the replay ????
    Yea no problem he won't make that mistake again & we will start with our strongest 11
    We put on Miles, May (can’t remember who else) and it had no effect - I’m not saying we won’t win the replay, but to say WE WILL, that’s a punchy commentĀ 
    With the changes your right we should have won that easy they was on for enough time
    & just now it's hard to see past how shit we was & playing at their ground will definitely go in their favourĀ 
    But we will win I have no doubt about thatĀ 



    I’ve just screenshot your reply - hopefully I don’t have to deploy it after the replay !!!
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,106
    seth plum said:
    At least May and Leaburn are cup tied so maybe that is a positive.
    Appleton is a major negative after today in my eyes.
    I have not seen the media but I suspect Appleton will blame it on the players whilst over heaping praise on Cray Valley Paper Mills.

    Ā What excuse did he come up with?

    Anything other than...

    "In my arrogance, and with disrespect to our opponents and our fans, and the TV audience, I made eleven changes. Clearly Cray Valley Paper Mills were laughing at such a stupid decision because it was always going to weaken us and give them a decent chance against an unsettled and unfamiliar team.
    I realise now what was clear to others it was the wrong thing to do, I am ashamed, and ashamed that I have humiliated Charlton Athletic today. I can't change what has occurred, but maybe it would help if I paid for all the Charlton fans today to attend the replay wherever it is held, and for that game I intend to field the strongest team possible. Another alternative is to tend my resignation, and if I am obliged to leave immediately with no pay off I would accept that decision."

    ...would in my eyes make him deluded.
    You wasted minutes of your life [again] typing this.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,889
    edited November 2023
    Wellred said:
    LouisMend said:
    His got no choice but to take the blame it was him who picked the side we could have told him thatĀ 

    ā€˜A little bit more from some of them’ it says in that article.Ā 

    Thats simply inaccurate.Ā 

    A lot more from all of them is what was needed.Ā 
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,152
    seth plum said:
    At least May and Leaburn are cup tied so maybe that is a positive.
    Appleton is a major negative after today in my eyes.
    I have not seen the media but I suspect Appleton will blame it on the players whilst over heaping praise on Cray Valley Paper Mills.

    Ā What excuse did he come up with?

    Anything other than...

    "In my arrogance, and with disrespect to our opponents and our fans, and the TV audience, I made eleven changes. Clearly Cray Valley Paper Mills were laughing at such a stupid decision because it was always going to weaken us and give them a decent chance against an unsettled and unfamiliar team.
    I realise now what was clear to others it was the wrong thing to do, I am ashamed, and ashamed that I have humiliated Charlton Athletic today. I can't change what has occurred, but maybe it would help if I paid for all the Charlton fans today to attend the replay wherever it is held, and for that game I intend to field the strongest team possible. Another alternative is to tend my resignation, and if I am obliged to leave immediately with no pay off I would accept that decision."

    ...would in my eyes make him deluded.

    How come? It wasn't a 'must win'. In your usual definition he's therefore done fine.Ā 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    We have the leagues top goal scorer & we leave him on the bench.Ā 

    Then when we bring him on we play him on the wing.

    Yet another clueless manager.Ā 
    Those goals he’s scored… you realise most of them have come from playing in a deeper position?
  • redbuttle said:
    That starting 11 should have been good enough to easily win.

    BUT the attitude had to be right. I thought we started the second half slowly, whereas they really gave it a go. Once they got the goal, they were further lifted, while we got worse when we tried to chase the gameĀ 
    Agree. But half that starting eleven couldn't give a fuck
    Ā Message for Andy Scott. Our squad is not good enough.
    Message for Andy Scott, "f*** off".
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited November 2023
    Don’t disagree with any of Appleton’s post match comments having had a listen.Ā 

    Bit disingenuous to post the tweet and say ā€œonly 3 or 4ā€ when he clearly said ā€œ3-4, maybe moreā€.

    Short of listing specific players I’m not sure what more people want.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited November 2023
    Believe it or not, we weren't the underdogs and this weren't a league game against a comparable team

    Imo, the manager should've been able to field anyone in our first team squad in their respective positions (as he did), and they should've come away with a 2 to 3 nil win. For me this is purely down to the players.

  • redbuttle said:
    That starting 11 should have been good enough to easily win.

    BUT the attitude had to be right. I thought we started the second half slowly, whereas they really gave it a go. Once they got the goal, they were further lifted, while we got worse when we tried to chase the gameĀ 
    Agree. But half that starting eleven couldn't give a fuck
    Ā Message for Andy Scott. Our squad is not good enough.
    Message for Andy Scott, "f*** off".
    And miss his input for the January transfer window? šŸ˜†
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    I hope all of you who wanted us to put out a weakened team are happy with themselves.Ā 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    The only positive from tonight is that I don't have any mates so no one can text me to make fun of meĀ 
    Give us your number and I’ll send you some shit mate
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Don’t disagree with any of Appleton’s post match comments having had a listen.Ā 

    Bit disingenuous to post the tweet and say ā€œonly 3 or 4ā€ when he clearly said ā€œ3-4, maybe moreā€.

    Short of listing specific players I’m not sure what more people want.
    He said he expected more from 3 or 4, maybe more.Ā 

    So he listed a starting 11 knowing that 5+ of the players would be terrible?Ā 
  • Nadou said:
    We all know how bad Kirk is and would never pick him, how come Appleton doesn't know and picks him?
    Because we change manager so bloody often, we know the players better than they do. I don't even live in the same country but I knew that team line-up was a disaster to happen, and I said as much on CL before kick-off.

    22 managers in 16 years is a hell of a shit way to run a football club.
  • a new low for Charla new low for charltonĀ 
  • It’s clear that Ness and Thomas aren’t good enough for a side hoping to get top six. Hector has been a huge fuck up this season too. We must bring in another CB in January. We’ve got three iffy keepers and injuries to two key players in Camara and Aneke. I doubt we’ll see either again this season. We’ll be way out of things by the time we can get any bodies through the door. Another dead season before Christmas.Ā 
  • redbuttle said:
    That starting 11 should have been good enough to easily win.

    BUT the attitude had to be right. I thought we started the second half slowly, whereas they really gave it a go. Once they got the goal, they were further lifted, while we got worse when we tried to chase the gameĀ 
    Agree. But half that starting eleven couldn't give a fuck
    Ā Message for Andy Scott. Our squad is not good enough.
    Message for Andy Scott, "f*** off".
    Absolutely, every one of his signings are crap apart from Louie Watson and maybe the other Watson, not forgetting he would not have signed Alfie May.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Don’t disagree with any of Appleton’s post match comments having had a listen.Ā 

    Bit disingenuous to post the tweet and say ā€œonly 3 or 4ā€ when he clearly said ā€œ3-4, maybe moreā€.

    Short of listing specific players I’m not sure what more people want.
    He said he expected more from 3 or 4, maybe more.Ā 

    So he listed a starting 11 knowing that 5+ of the players would be terrible?Ā 
    He put them in because he expected them to be good enough to win the game.Ā 

    How are you equating his comments to ā€œhe knew 5+ of the players would be terribleā€?
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Fuck me, the rant brigade are in full meltdown tonight. Firstly we have a tough game against Pompey coming up, we need all our players rested for that game. Secondly there were certain players who had to play tonight, McGrandles, Edun and Fraser, to help them get match fit. Thirdly there were players who have not featured under Appleton, Walker, Campbell, Kirk and I think Anderson, the manager needs to look at these players in competitive game time.Ā 
    Golfie summed it up as did the commentary team, you will not get fluidity with eleven changes but those changes were the right thing to do, yes they didn't play well and should have played a lot better, but they didn't lose and Cray get a double pay day, good luck to them. On to Pompey where the majority of our players have had a ten day rest where there will be no excuses.Ā  Ā 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    edited November 2023
    Because every single player today was terrible and didn't stand out against non-league opposition.Ā 

    Appleton comes out and says he only expected more from 3-4 of them, maybe a couple more. So what about the rest?Ā 
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,135
    Many moons ago I played against Tonbridge Angels in a friendly (we got battered) this lot are below them in the pyramid! To say that is a bad result is the understatement of the year
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    I was over the moon at the draw, as I have semi-followed CVPM for the past couple of years and have a couple of mates who treat them as their first supported side (There are genuinely very few).

    I was at the Enfield game where they secured qualification for the 1st round and cheered the goals and final whistle.Ā 

    Never, in a million years, did I think that only a few weeks later it would lead to me feeling the most embarrassed I’ve ever been leaving The Valley.Ā 

    Every single player must hold their head in shame. But they won’t. They’ll probably just be a bit put out that they had their Sunday plans spoiled by having to be involved in it at all.

    Its not as if it was an away game, and they were made to use a tiny changing room, with uncomfortable closeness to the opposing fans - and all the other FA Cup cliches.Ā 

    I recall Northwich Victoria well, but this genuinely feels like the most embarrassing result in our modern history.Ā