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Next Manager Search - August 2023

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  • Scott will appoint a yes man 
    Based on what evidence? 
    People say this about every owner. They said it about Roland and then he appointed a succession of managers like Peeters, Robinson and Bowyer who regularly moaned in the press about not having enough players. They said it about Sandgaard who stuck with Bowyer despite him having a very public meltdown in every direction then appointed Garner who regularly moaned about not having enough players. Fans of other clubs say it about their owners too but no matter who is appointed the second a manager isn't doing well he'll moan about not getting exactly what he wanted in the transfer market, it's self-preservation. I honestly don't think apart from Karel Fraeye who isn't a football manager there are any 'yes men' in football. Put it in a bingo card, we'll be hearing it again and again as long as there's a Charlton Life.
  • Forget Scott Parker. No chance is he dropping to League One. 
  • I'd like Parker to get the job but only on the proviso that the comms team overlay The Streets on any video/audio interviews he does.
  • Please stop talking about Scott Parker
  • fenaddick said:
    Cawley again using the term Head Coach rather than manager, seems intentional.
    Think it just suggests they won't be super involved in transfers which is fine by me
    It’s not been going very well for Chelsea 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,389
    Please stop talking about Scott Parker
    Did your family get you a Parker 7 shirt for Xmas just before That Transfer Window too? Yeah. 
  • mendonca said:
    Not sure I'd welcome Parker. This is due his complete strop at Bournemouth, more than from his exit at Charlton. He's alienated himself.

    Agreed, he did himself no favours with that moan. O'Neil by contrast knuckled down and quickly got another PL job when Bournemouth sacked him.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,355
    fenaddick said:
    Cawley again using the term Head Coach rather than manager, seems intentional.
    Think it just suggests they won't be super involved in transfers which is fine by me
    It’s not been going very well for Chelsea 
    Works pretty well for most other clubs though. Managers have become expendable so this way of doing things means you aren’t too reliant on the manager. 

    The modern way of doing things is you have a style of play and recruit players that fit it, then you can recruit managers that fit that. Also means it’s easy to replace players and managers that move on, look at Brighton, Luton, Brentford etc they’ve lost players and managers and easily replaced them and continued to improve by using this kind of set up 
  • Leuth said:
    Please stop talking about Scott Parker
    Did your family get you a Parker 7 shirt for Xmas just before That Transfer Window too? Yeah. 
    Mercifully that summer I was the happy recipient of a Di Canio 11 shirt. I still have that one, it's an obscure football shirt afficionado's dream
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Leuth said:
    Please stop talking about Scott Parker
    Did your family get you a Parker 7 shirt for Xmas just before That Transfer Window too? Yeah. 
    Mercifully that summer I was the happy recipient of a Di Canio 11 shirt. I still have that one, it's an obscure football shirt afficionado's dream
    whats Paolo up to these days?

    might as well throw his name into the hat

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  • There’s also that clubs are more and more progressing towards having a system of play from youth through to first team. Eases progression for each age group towards the first team squad. That makes it very difficult to appoint managers who want to play something different. It’s a system that works well abroad and I think the days of managers like Curbs who controlled a club from top to bottom are long gone. 
  • Graham Potter
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    What’s Rafa up to these days? Club should still have him on file from when Sandgaard tried to get in touch. What do we have to lose? 
  • Scott will appoint a yes man 
    Lee Johnson
  • fenaddick said:
    Cawley again using the term Head Coach rather than manager, seems intentional.
    Think it just suggests they won't be super involved in transfers which is fine by me
    I actually disagree, surely a manager who gets no say in what players are given to him can't be expected to make them all perform.
    I would much prefer when the manager runs the football side of things and is allowed to get on with it, with no interference.
  • If a manager has got the sack from a previous position, he would only take another job if they are better off financially as they are still getting paid a salary from their previous job. Di Matto turned down the Boro job as he was getting more from West Brom who had sacked him 
  • There’s also that clubs are more and more progressing towards having a system of play from youth through to first team. Eases progression for each age group towards the first team squad. That makes it very difficult to appoint managers who want to play something different. It’s a system that works well abroad and I think the days of managers like Curbs who controlled a club from top to bottom are long gone. 

    In a way it was much the same then, except that Curbs was effectively the Head Coach AND the Technical Director.

    I can't remember, but assume that the academy and reserve teams would have played in a similar style to the first team.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    Multi stage interviews... Better than 200 meetings in 24 hours. 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,205
    Right, Scott Parker. If he comes, I go. It will be my last season. It's not even that I hate him, although I do.

    It's because he's just a little bit thick. He lacks every skill set a decent manager needs. Inspirational qualities; tactical nous; luck; man management skills; leadership; and coaching skills.  He has none of these in my opinion and have I mentioned that he is a dullard?

    In addition, with his choice of cardigans, it would be impossible for any player to look at him and not laugh rather than take him seriously.

    Scott Parkers cardigan cost around 5 for every MINUTE he wore it on the  touchline before he was sacked by Bourmouth  The Sun
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,639
    cafcfan said:
    Right, Scott Parker. If he comes, I go. It will be my last season. It's not even that I hate him, although I do.

    It's because he's just a little bit thick. He lacks every skill set a decent manager needs. Inspirational qualities; tactical nous; luck; man management skills; leadership; and coaching skills.  He has none of these in my opinion and have I mentioned that he is a dullard?

    In addition, with his choice of cardigans, it would be impossible for any player to look at him and not laugh rather than take him seriously.

    Scott Parkers cardigan cost around 5 for every MINUTE he wore it on the  touchline before he was sacked by Bourmouth  The Sun
    If he lacks all the above he must at least have had some luck seeing as he's managed to win two promotions. 

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  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,201
    cafcfan said:
    Right, Scott Parker. If he comes, I go. It will be my last season. It's not even that I hate him, although I do.

    It's because he's just a little bit thick. He lacks every skill set a decent manager needs. Inspirational qualities; tactical nous; luck; man management skills; leadership; and coaching skills.  He has none of these in my opinion and have I mentioned that he is a dullard?

    In addition, with his choice of cardigans, it would be impossible for any player to look at him and not laugh rather than take him seriously.

    Scott Parkers cardigan cost around 5 for every MINUTE he wore it on the  touchline before he was sacked by Bourmouth  The Sun
    I agree with your second and third paragraphs, but surely anyone who made it through the Fraeye era isn’t going to stop supporting the club because of a shit manager. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,819
    My view on Parker as a manager is deeply affected by how he ended at Bournemouth. Threw the club under the bus after the Liverpool game, and was shown how wrong he was by what Gary O’Neill did after him. Just gives me the feeling he isn’t emotionally mature enough when there are difficult times
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,095
    edited September 2023
    I'd be surprised if Parker was even an applicant. Yes he's got 2 promotions but the stint at Club Brugge and the end of his tenure at Bournemouth went very badly. 

    Another one I don't think would consider managing below the championship. 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,205
    cafcfan said:
    Right, Scott Parker. If he comes, I go. It will be my last season. It's not even that I hate him, although I do.

    It's because he's just a little bit thick. He lacks every skill set a decent manager needs. Inspirational qualities; tactical nous; luck; man management skills; leadership; and coaching skills.  He has none of these in my opinion and have I mentioned that he is a dullard?

    In addition, with his choice of cardigans, it would be impossible for any player to look at him and not laugh rather than take him seriously.

    Scott Parkers cardigan cost around 5 for every MINUTE he wore it on the  touchline before he was sacked by Bourmouth  The Sun
    If he lacks all the above he must at least have had some luck seeing as he's managed to win two promotions. 
    Two words: parachute payments.
  • If Parker riles up our fans than yes like Lee Johnson I want him in 
  • Lyle Taylor as assistant 
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,411
    edited September 2023
    If a manager has got the sack from a previous position, he would only take another job if they are better off financially as they are still getting paid a salary from their previous job. Di Matto turned down the Boro job as he was getting more from West Brom who had sacked him 
    That doesn’t leave to many people left in the pot.

    Was Kevin Phillips sacked?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I’m pretty certain that we’d have heard if Scott Parker was in the mix. Be shocked if he accepted a third division job. Having said that. For those of you saying “I’m done” if x,y or z comes in, can I ask you to close the door behind you. What a pathetic and entitled nonsense. 
    I think we do know Parker is in the mix, read the comments from people who have previously proved to be ITK.  No one has directly said it but its been strongly hinted at.
  • Scott Parker - no thanks
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