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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,015
    RonnieMoore said:
    Please not Powell …would be the worst choice 
    Wow Ronnie finally offers an original thought and somehow it's even more stupid than his usual recycled, copy and paste nonsense. 
  • ROKERITE
    ROKERITE Posts: 24
    RonnieMoore said:
    Please not Powell …would be the worst choice 
    Not necessarily the worst but it wouldn't be good. Having done brilliantly with you first time round he's failed everywhere else. It would be a shame to tarnish his reputation at The Valley.
  • FirenzeAddick
    FirenzeAddick Posts: 32
    The squad Powell had for that 2011-2012 season had experience throughout it, this squad does not. Leaders who could take his message and lift other players in the group, this squad has maybe 2-3 of those types max (Hector, Dobson & May)

    5 of our starting 11 played over 40 L1 games that season, 3 of which were in our back 4, we are miles away from having that sort of settled defence. Which is a cornerstone to CP's set up.

    There are some areas where you can see him being able to work with it, such as Leaburn & May being a workable partnership he could mould in a Yann & BWP style.

    I just can't see it being viable unless he gets assurances he can bring his own players in..... and the time for that has gone.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    RonnieMoore said:
    Please not Powell …would be the worst choice 
    When he gets it I bet your opinion suddenly changes the other way 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,507
    Cue 30x quotes from Ron
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    Offering him it as interim first is hardly going to give him confidence that he’s the man they want and won’t discard him at the first sign of trouble. 

    Another own goal to add to the list for the new regime 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,502
    Just a bit curious as to WHY this lot want Powell so much. He hasn't been a manager for 4 years and apart from with us didn't pull up any trees elsewhere. Purely to get fans onside presumably? 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    My only concern with Powell is how well does he know league 1 and how well does he know the current squad. That’s probably the only area he is weaker than the other names mentioned 
  • TeeC
    TeeC Posts: 311
    Why do I get the feeling the Powell stuff is just another ‘we tried…’ a la Nombe / JCH
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    Talal said:
    Just a bit curious as to WHY this lot want Powell so much. He hasn't been a manager for 4 years and apart from with us didn't pull up any trees elsewhere. Purely to get fans onside presumably? 
    I think if you spend years working in the England and Tottenham set ups you probably learn a lot and develop as a coach/manager. This will be a new and improved Powell hopefully 

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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,547
    edited August 2023
    Talal said:
    Just a bit curious as to WHY this lot want Powell so much. He hasn't been a manager for 4 years and apart from with us didn't pull up any trees elsewhere. Purely to get fans onside presumably? 

    Because fans will be a lot more patient with Sir Chris at the helm...
  • CharltontillidieCOYR
    CharltontillidieCOYR Posts: 781
    FirenzeAddick said:
    The squad Powell had for that 2011-2012 season had experience throughout it, this squad does not. Leaders who could take his message and lift other players in the group, this squad has maybe 2-3 of those types max (Hector, Dobson & May)

    5 of our starting 11 played over 40 L1 games that season, 3 of which were in our back 4, we are miles away from having that sort of settled defence. Which is a cornerstone to CP's set up.

    There are some areas where you can see him being able to work with it, such as Leaburn & May being a workable partnership he could mould in a Yann & BWP style.

    I just can't see it being viable unless he gets assurances he can bring his own players in..... and the time for that has gone.
    But i think we can all see now and have to accept this isnt a quick fix just like the last time he came in he needed till the summer to change things

    If powell is backed sensibly and given time to build then im all for it

    he has until january to see what they are made of and make decisions on players and then can go into it and get who he wants

    Its all ifs and buts but hopefully he will hear what he wants to from the SMT and it goes well🤞🏻🤞🏻
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,371
    edited August 2023
    Great! 

    Both Powell and Bowyer are ingrained in that certain Charlton ethos, a thin veneer of promise, short term optimism and fleeting success leading inevitably to mediocrity, ultimately hamstrung into underacheivement and fan resentment by shit foolish short sighted ownership.

    Get either of them back, then it's buisness a usual ...  This new lot, they aren't shaping up to anything different than we have seen before!
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    RonnieMoore said:
    Please not Powell …would be the worst choice 
    Oh I forgot how much you hated him 
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    I love Powelly as much as the next person, but we need someone who is ‘current’ and knows the modern game, he hasn’t managed since 2019, wrong choice in my opinion
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,619
    edited August 2023
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  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,058
    RonnieMoore said:
    Please not Powell …would be the worst choice 
    Not a serious, genuine poster 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,741
    CharltontillidieCOYR said:
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    Chris Powell looking a cert if he wants it. All depends on how much, initially only being offered it on an interim basis has put him off.

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    This makes no sense. Can't call it a cert when there's all those variables that haven't been sorted 
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,589
    edited August 2023

    Was Andy Scott the Brentford manager in the 2011/12 season? He would of seen the job Powell done that year. 



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  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,324
    a different name

    Mark Bowen ex 1998 now behind a desk at Reading
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    PWADDICK said:
    I love Powelly as much as the next person, but we need someone who is ‘current’ and knows the modern game, he hasn’t managed since 2019, wrong choice in my opinion
    He’s been involved in the England set up and at Spurs for a while, not some pundit on Talksport who hasn’t taken a session in their lives 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    The thing to remember about Powell is a high % of the players we signed that summer had played with, or against, Powell very recently and had basically spent half a season watching the rest play against us.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,589
    Rothko said:
    PWADDICK said:
    I love Powelly as much as the next person, but we need someone who is ‘current’ and knows the modern game, he hasn’t managed since 2019, wrong choice in my opinion
    He’s been involved in the England set up and at Spurs for a while, not some pundit on Talksport who hasn’t taken a session in their lives 

    You could argue that he has the best CV of late than others mentioned. International and around a premier league club.

    It seems the new lot are looking to blood in youngsters so with Powells recent experience in youth football could make him an attractive option along with his popularity among fans. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,259
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The thing to remember about Powell is a high % of the players we signed that summer had played with, or against, Powell very recently and had basically spent half a season watching the rest play against us.
    There’s nothing to say Neil Redfearn can’t come in alongside Dobson and be that late runner into the box and goalscoring midfielder we so desperately crave 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,929
    KingKinsella said:
    a different name

    Mark Bowen ex 1998 now behind a desk at Reading
    He'll have to become our technical director first, so that he can then appoint himself as manager.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,889
    Airman Brown said:
    I’m confident that it’s not true at this point that the club have gone back to Chris Powell. If people are being briefed otherwise then they should doubt the integrity of their sources.
    So your source is right everyone else's source is wrong?

    I do not believe that powell is in the running, or bowyer. We will end up with Appleton or Johnson in my opinion but you do come across as very rude and abrupt sometimes
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,507
    edited August 2023
    Is there any truth in the rumour that Holden was paid £500k to go?

    If it is true, it makes no sense for them to now employ someone with no pedigree and on peanuts.

    Or is £500k no a lot of money in League 1 manager's compo terms, these days?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,334
    Croydon said:
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    Chris Powell looking a cert if he wants it. All depends on how much, initially only being offered it on an interim basis has put him off.

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    This makes no sense. Can't call it a cert when there's all those variables that haven't been sorted 
    Why are you posting this on this site?
    If you want to slag the bloke off at least be brave enough to do it directly to him, after all, you are obviously on that site.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,133
    PWADDICK said:
    I love Powelly as much as the next person, but we need someone who is ‘current’ and knows the modern game, he hasn’t managed since 2019, wrong choice in my opinion
    Yeh he’s only been to the Euro final and World Cup with England but apart from that. 
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