A very average unbalanced squad, too few senior players to carry the team. We have to play too many young players who are not ready for weekly men's football on this level. Sad that this is what we have become.
Brown and Curbs saying they feel sympathy for Appleton - nothing going his way.
Yes but look what they said about not using Louie Watson. Strongest response so far to that question from people who need to be careful what they say on air.
I can’t remember the last time a player was cold-shouldered in this way when both the vast majority of fans and the pro commentators were all baffled by it.
Today it was obvious that Anderson was tiring, and keeping him on will not have helped his development. It was completely irrational.
I missed this, what did Brownie and Curbs say on it?
"Despite all that, it was pissing down with rain, getting cold and
we had been playing a press. Oxford make their first sub on 65 mins when
we are all shouting for a freshen up. Apples makes his on 75/80 and
then 85. And he makes bad choices."
Given the weak bench at Apple's disposal I'm pretty certain he didn't want to make any changes at all, but for the obvious fatigue that had set in with a number of players.
We can all forgive some players who at least try.. Take Alfie, no wonder he's done his back in it's because he's been carrying most of the squad.
Overall my take on today and the season so far.... Tennai had his best game alongside Jones too.
Hector was better but there's always a cock up in him like the goal with being on the wrong side but I didn't think Edun did enough to close down the winger, in fact Edun for me is the weak link, he gives way too much space to the opposing player and couldn't close a shop door in my opinion.
CBT is a complete enigma, first half threatening, second half didn't come out.
Dobbo looks knackered and completely fed up and needs help in midfield but he may leave anyway.
Kanu, Anderson and Tyreece need to go to League 2 like Aaron Henry.
Tedic needs to go back to City, LWatson is probably going back anyway and Chem probably should go back.
So by my rough count we need at least 6 or 7 players in the hope that Alfie will be back soon along with McAmbles and Camera at the end of the month. I'm excluding Chucks as who knows when he's back and more importantly for how long.
Apples has used all the excuses up and should be on the next bus along with Scotty as I wouldn't trust either of them with a pen let alone a cheque book.
Give Pearce the baton for the remainder and let's see what happens.
However, this is Charlton so it will be just three signings and all the buddies get to keep there jobs.
Isn’t it the case that the style of play is dictated by Andy Scott and the management team? You play the same style across all the teams and then if you need to bring youngsters in, they already know the formation/tactics.
Not sure that Appleton has any say in this which is why he is persisting with the formation regardless of the personnel. It’s what he’s been told to do. This is why a decent manager won’t come to us, the only ones who will are desperate out of work coaches who are willing to agree to play the system determined by the management team.
We seem to be trying to attract players by paying good wages but that strategy backfires when said players spend most of the time out injured.
How come we end up with players who have been voted player of the year at their previous clubs (eg Gilbey, McKeeper) yet are shit with us?
this is correct - its also why apples was brought in as its the system he coaches - its why we continue with it even without the personnel to play it - utter lunacy
Appleton seems to have a very low bar in terms of expectations. Imo he played for a draw 20 mins from full time. We all knew how that was going to end !
For me the reason why I have lost any belief that Appleton can deliver promotion.
Mostly picks a decent side from the players available, has made early changes when he's been outsmarted on formation.
Now seems to have lost the plot. The fans dont boo you Michael just because you have been unlucky. They boo you because you've made some fucking terrible decisions, not just once, but repeatedly.
Brown and Curbs saying they feel sympathy for Appleton - nothing going his way.
Yes but look what they said about not using Louie Watson. Strongest response so far to that question from people who need to be careful what they say on air.
I can’t remember the last time a player was cold-shouldered in this way when both the vast majority of fans and the pro commentators were all baffled by it.
Today it was obvious that Anderson was tiring, and keeping him on will not have helped his development. It was completely irrational.
I missed this, what did Brownie and Curbs say on it?
Curbs said he rates him and likes his ball retention 😬
Brown and Curbs saying they feel sympathy for Appleton - nothing going his way.
Yes but look what they said about not using Louie Watson. Strongest response so far to that question from people who need to be careful what they say on air.
I can’t remember the last time a player was cold-shouldered in this way when both the vast majority of fans and the pro commentators were all baffled by it.
Today it was obvious that Anderson was tiring, and keeping him on will not have helped his development. It was completely irrational.
I missed this, what did Brownie and Curbs say on it?
They seemed to be saying that something must have happened for him to be left out for so long. The subtext was that it didn't make sense for him not to be playing.
Shows how far we have fallen as I was, in a strange way, enjoying the game until the 70th minute. It then dawned on me that I was enjoying it because I thought we were going to get soundly beaten by the mighty Oxford Utd but, here we were, holding our own against them. How low have my expectations fallen?
Unfortunately, after 70 minutes it became obvious that Oxford had put in Duracell batteries compared to our Tesco unbranded ones.
The first half in defence he had Tc playing alongside him taking the outside man so TW picked the man in the channel or if he came inside. Worked pretty well. On the left of our defence CBT never tracked back which left Edun with two men all of the time.
My only complaints were the non sensical subs. Thomas was an effort to protect a point and it immediately backfired and we are then chasing the game with a left footed centre half at right back with a right back on the bench. Then taking off CBT to bring on Casey, I mean WTF? Not a game to bring Casey on. Keep CBT up front and give that a go. Kanu didn't look as shattered as Anderson or Campbell so why not keep Kanu on and stick someone up top alongside him? And what has Watson done wrong? Shagged Apples missus? I don't care if he's going back tomorrow he should at least have come off the bench today, he is forward thinking and can pick out a pass. I thought the subs were all wrong. Apples got it wrong. He's got to go. I've zero faith in him getting us out of this league, ever.
Other than that I've no real complaints. Every one of them put in the required committment, busted every gut, tried their best but some are not good enough whilst others not experienced enough. The players were not to blame today.
There was a moment in second half when Tyreece Campbell ran chasing a ball with the grit and determination of an olympic 100m final sprinter which underlined that along with players like Watson and Jones smashing into tackles and throwing themselves in front of shots.
Can't fault the players today generally although Fraser's corner was abysmal when you're paid to play football.
Could tell with about 20 mins to go we weren't up for winning it whereas Oxford were. A lack of confidence compounded by a lack of ability throughout the team.
Need a solid couple of windows to change things and make us competitive in this league.
Not all down to Apples, we have now got 4 centre forwards out FOUR, Chuks, Alfie, Miles, and Tedic, as highlighted by Curbs, the team is too young, and we are playing kids everywhere, because we have no choice, the team is knackered and dejected because of lack of experience, so not all down to him. We desperately need some new faces and quickly or yes things will continue on the downward spiral...
The next four weeks will show us all what the Owners and the SMT want from Charlton.
The time for throwing inexperienced youngsters into the deepend is not working.
Stand up and explain what your intentions are for the club we call Charlton Athletic.
If the owners and the SMT do not back the club we are up the creek without a paddle.
Terrible corner at the end and then got the ball straight back and did same again
This was utterly dreadful. We may as well hand the ball in for a goal kick when we win a corner. We are absolute dog s at posing any threat whatsoever! It’s bizarre, we rarely beat the first man and what Fraser did was typical of our season
My only complaints were the non sensical subs. Thomas was an effort to protect a point and it immediately backfired and we are then chasing the game with a left footed centre half at right back with a right back on the bench. Then taking off CBT to bring on Casey, I mean WTF? Not a game to bring Casey on. Keep CBT up front and give that a go. Kanu didn't look as shattered as Anderson or Campbell so why not keep Kanu on and stick someone up top alongside him? And what has Watson done wrong? Shagged Apples missus? I don't care if he's going back tomorrow he should at least have come off the bench today, he is forward thinking and can pick out a pass. I thought the subs were all wrong. Apples got it wrong. He's got to go. I've zero faith in him getting us out of this league, ever.
Other than that I've no real complaints. Every one of them put in the required committment, busted every gut, tried their best but some are not good enough whilst others not experienced enough. The players were not to blame today.
There was a moment in second half when Tyreece Campbell ran chasing a ball with the grit and determination of an olympic 100m final sprinter which underlined that along with players like Watson and Jones smashing into tackles and throwing themselves in front of shots.
Can't fault the players today generally although Fraser's corner was abysmal when you're paid to play football.
Could tell with about 20 mins to go we weren't up for winning it whereas Oxford were. A lack of confidence compounded by a lack of ability throughout the team.
Need a solid couple of windows to change things and make us competitive in this league.
Unfortunately this typified TC, great run, did loads of hard work and then ran it out for a goal kick. We have to be patient with him but his decision making at times is really naive
My only complaints were the non sensical subs. Thomas was an effort to protect a point and it immediately backfired and we are then chasing the game with a left footed centre half at right back with a right back on the bench. Then taking off CBT to bring on Casey, I mean WTF? Not a game to bring Casey on. Keep CBT up front and give that a go. Kanu didn't look as shattered as Anderson or Campbell so why not keep Kanu on and stick someone up top alongside him? And what has Watson done wrong? Shagged Apples missus? I don't care if he's going back tomorrow he should at least have come off the bench today, he is forward thinking and can pick out a pass. I thought the subs were all wrong. Apples got it wrong. He's got to go. I've zero faith in him getting us out of this league, ever.
Other than that I've no real complaints. Every one of them put in the required committment, busted every gut, tried their best but some are not good enough whilst others not experienced enough. The players were not to blame today.
We played quite well first half,until they scored,really,how did Hector let that ball get to their man.Another goal conceded,that Hector played a part in,I have now lost count.
I am now a fully paid up member of the Appleton Out Club. I have resisted for a long time because I feel that the constant churn of managers is problematic in itself and that we desperately need some stability. However we've got to have someone at least half decent in place before we stick, but it looks like we're nowhere near that, so I reckon it's time to twist again. I feel today that the starting XI probably did enough to earn a point, if not win the game. In fact, I think several of them put in their best performances for a month or more. Appleton then conspired to mess everything up with his ridiculous substitutions. Anderson and Tyreece Campbell were clearly knackered yet he kept them on until the end, bringing off players who were doing considerably better. That Louis Watson can't get a game ahead of either Anderson or Fraser absolutely beggars belief. And does he never learn that us going defensive is a sure signal for us to concede. I can't dispute that he's been unlucky with injuries, but like David Brent in the office, I don't want us working with unlucky people anymore: Time to bin him.
We're poor at set pieces, and try to "play" too much IMO. Would be easier, at this level, and with our players, to keep the ball in the other half as much as possible...IE stop trying to "play it out" from the goal-keeper and reduce the amount of intricate passing we seem prone to. I'm not so sure we need a different set of players, or a new manager, rather than a simpler, slightly less accident prone approach with what we have.
The owners, NOT Scott, need to decide whether they think Appleton is the man that can turn around the clubs fortunes. With that plan, significant more sums of money are required, such is the dire situation. Regardless of budget in this league, or reteric, the reality is that a wholesale squad and management change is needed, top down, if this slide is to be stopped. Whether the funds are available will become clearer very soon.
If we were a car, we've broken down on the M1 and all the other cars are passing us, whilst we wait for a tow truck. Even when it arrives major repairs will be needed, just to get moving again. Catching up with the rest is not possible.
Completely disagree, why is Scott there ? I actually feel sorry for Appleton. All im going to say is look at Chris Powell, rejected Charlton out of hand and took a job with Sheffield Wednesday with a lunatic from Thailand at the helm. If that doesn't sum it up for you not sure what does.
Some very odd decisions by Appleton, especially the subs. Not just who he didn't bring on ( L Watson) but also who he took off. Anderson was knackered, yet stayed out there. Chem at least took some decent corners, yet was weirdly subbed with 4 minutes to go, leaving Fraser to embarrass himself with his corners. He had taken a couple of knocks, but T Watson came off when he was probably out best defender.
And all game we looked so vulnerable down our left, their left winger had a field day, as Edun have him acres of space, while Cory made no effort to track back.
We're poor at set pieces, and try to "play" too much IMO. Would be easier, at this level, and with our players, to keep the ball in the other half as much as possible...IE stop trying to "play it out" from the goal-keeper and reduce the amount of intricate passing we seem prone to. I'm not so sure we need a different set of players, or a new manager, rather than a simpler, slightly less accident prone approach with what we have.
well said .. Man Citteee we ain't, our players are NOT even close to being good enough and we can't (or shouldn't) expect them to be .. Arsenal try the Pep approach and even a team as expensively assembled as them can't match the way the real experts play out successfully from the back
Some very odd decisions by Appleton, especially the subs. Not just who he didn't bring on ( L Watson) but also who he took off. Anderson was knackered, yet stayed out there. Chem at least took some decent corners, yet was weirdly subbed with 4 minutes to go, leaving Fraser to embarrass himself with his corners. He had taken a couple of knocks, but T Watson came off when he was probably out best defender.
And all game we looked so vulnerable down our left, their left winger had a field day, as Edun have him acres of space, while Cory made no effort to track back.
We were knackerred and he brought on two players who had less energy than the players who were playing 90.
i did cling to a hope that Thomas coming on would mean that we were moving to 3 - 5 -2 and giving Kanu some help up front……..
I honestly feel like he has wilfully cost us points by his bizarre treatment of Watson. There is no way Anderson should have played two full games in a row when he's clearly out of his depth. Fraser has become completely ineffective but kept playing him. He's obviously not a world beater, but I'm as good as certain that we'd have more points on the board had Watson started more games. Added to the shit substitutions, playing players out of position, unwillingness to change formation and charisma of an amoeba, I want him gone.
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A very average unbalanced squad, too few senior players to carry the team. We have to play too many young players who are not ready for weekly men's football on this level. Sad that this is what we have become.
Given the weak bench at Apple's disposal I'm pretty certain he didn't want to make any changes at all, but for the obvious fatigue that had set in with a number of players.
Overall my take on today and the season so far.... Tennai had his best game alongside Jones too.
Hector was better but there's always a cock up in him like the goal with being on the wrong side but I didn't think Edun did enough to close down the winger, in fact Edun for me is the weak link, he gives way too much space to the opposing player and couldn't close a shop door in my opinion.
CBT is a complete enigma, first half threatening, second half didn't come out.
Dobbo looks knackered and completely fed up and needs help in midfield but he may leave anyway.
Kanu, Anderson and Tyreece need to go to League 2 like Aaron Henry.
Tedic needs to go back to City, LWatson is probably going back anyway and Chem probably should go back.
So by my rough count we need at least 6 or 7 players in the hope that Alfie will be back soon along with McAmbles and Camera at the end of the month. I'm excluding Chucks as who knows when he's back and more importantly for how long.
Apples has used all the excuses up and should be on the next bus along with Scotty as I wouldn't trust either of them with a pen let alone a cheque book.
Give Pearce the baton for the remainder and let's see what happens.
However, this is Charlton so it will be just three signings and all the buddies get to keep there jobs.
Not a brilliant time to be a fan.
Bugger off Mickey, enjoy the pay off and hopefully the only time we see you again is when your .jpeg looms up on here in "fond" remembrance.
It then dawned on me that I was enjoying it because I thought we were going to get soundly beaten by the mighty Oxford Utd but, here we were, holding our own against them.
How low have my expectations fallen?
Unfortunately, after 70 minutes it became obvious that Oxford had put in Duracell batteries compared to our Tesco unbranded ones.
There was a moment in second half when Tyreece Campbell ran chasing a ball with the grit and determination of an olympic 100m final sprinter which underlined that along with players like Watson and Jones smashing into tackles and throwing themselves in front of shots.
Can't fault the players today generally although Fraser's corner was abysmal when you're paid to play football.
Could tell with about 20 mins to go we weren't up for winning it whereas Oxford were. A lack of confidence compounded by a lack of ability throughout the team.
Need a solid couple of windows to change things and make us competitive in this league.
The time for throwing inexperienced youngsters into the deepend is not working.
Stand up and explain what your intentions are for the club we call Charlton Athletic.
If the owners and the SMT do not back the club we are up the creek without a paddle.
There's all the perspective we need thanks Michael...
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And all game we looked so vulnerable down our left, their left winger had a field day, as Edun have him acres of space, while Cory made no effort to track back.
i did cling to a hope that Thomas coming on would mean that we were moving to 3 - 5 -2 and giving Kanu some help up front……..
Think he has put his head in the sand , and hoping we go away.
Added to the shit substitutions, playing players out of position, unwillingness to change formation and charisma of an amoeba, I want him gone.
How much time do we want to give their man??
Would need to see a different angle of it, but could AMB have done better with their goal? He looks to take an age to get over.
Fineable that.