Cold wet day let down by bunch of players who don’t care. It’s got worse week by week watching this dross. It’s so painful to watch. I’ll be at the next home game 13th which will be my last as the parking restrictions come in on the 15th which is probably doing me a favour. I have to push myself to come and watch and as a season ticket of 20 years I’ve not seen it this bad. No fight & no guts from anyone at Charlton. I’ll go watch my local team in Kent from the 15th as they have fight and try. They will have my season ticket next year.
Appleton couldn’t even look at covered end as he walked off he has no respect for the fans. Please go.
I was just thinking quite a few of the posts have been relatively positive, in terms of the players putting in a shift. Certainly less negative than after Orient and Bristol. Focus is very much on the management.
I was just thinking quite a few of the posts have been relatively positive, in terms of the players putting in a shift. Certainly less negative than after Orient and Bristol. Focus is very much on the management.
The youngsters tried, just none of them are good enough.
And my fear confirmed, just had a text from my brother saying my nephew is undecided about coming to Reading away now.
Start of the season he would have agreed to Carlisle away without a second thought.
Something needs to change and quickly at our club as this endless cycle of mediocrity & failure may not drive away all us diehards but will dwindle away the fans who are meant to be our future.
I said earlier in season that I would wait until Christmas before deciding on MA and new management and owners. MA has turned out like every other recent manager, no inspiration to players. I will wait until end of January before deciding on top brass. I cannot get excited over transfers and can't feel any lower over results
I was just thinking quite a few of the posts have been relatively positive, in terms of the players putting in a shift. Certainly less negative than after Orient and Bristol. Focus is very much on the management.
The youngsters tried, just none of them are good enough.
Frustratingly, I just think this is having an impact on their progress.
I appreciate Appleton has to play most of them now, but throwing them in at the deep end against L1 teams and with an expectant crowd can be relatively damaging to confidence. Opinions are being built about players that really shouldn't be anywhere near the first team, plus the potential for picking up niggling injuries while are still growing into full men's football.
I feel the TCampbell of last season makes a better hash of his chances today - snatching at crosses, taking an extra touch, not being direct enough. Anderson just feels like technically (touch, mainly) and positionally (pushing too far forward), he's nowhere near ready. Kanu works hard, but should be, at best, cover for May in the last quarter of a game or not asked to be in the role he isn't built for. Rylah and Casey shouldn't be getting minutes at all.
Injuries and fitness to both the poor loans and signings are the root cause here, but at least today, LWatson should have either started or given 30+ minutes to help Anderson. For someone who supposedly was brought in to bring the youngsters through, he's blooding some of them too recklessly at times.
Sounding like a broken record now. It's all just predictable isn't it. Appleton probably needs to go as he's lost the majority of fans, but the people in charge have a lot to answer for, that's their man and they're the ones who made these weak signings.
Our only hope now is to do what Ipswich done 2 seasons ago, plan for next year and end strong.
I always thought we should have stayed with Holden - as he did not have any of the loanees at his disposal and a lot of players were injured when he got sacked. Appleton was very lucky with his timing - but he only has one formation and the players have to fit into that system - such as May and Leaburn playing on the wing - when Appleton could have easily played them alongside each other when they were fit. Tonight summed up his management expertise to me - when the crowd was booing the team and booing him and he brought on a young kid for his debut in the 87th minute and then another youngster in the 92nd minute - what has Appleton done for their confidence. I could not understand why Appleton then took CBT off and put Fraser on when we were being totally over run at the back and needed to take the pressure off the defence and keep the ball up front with the forwards and although CBT is not my favourite player he is the only fit player that can cause problems amongst the opposition defence. Appleton is a total joke - CBT or Dobson wont sign new contracts with MA as manager - he needs to go quickly
I was just thinking quite a few of the posts have been relatively positive, in terms of the players putting in a shift. Certainly less negative than after Orient and Bristol. Focus is very much on the management.
The youngsters tried, just none of them are good enough.
Sounding like a broken record now. It's all just predictable isn't it. Appleton probably needs to go as he's lost the majority of fans, but the people in charge have a lot to answer for, that's their man and they're the ones who made these weak signings.
Our only hope now is to do what Ipswich done 2 seasons ago, plan for next year and end strong.
They really rate Dobson, think that's the worst Appleton side they've watched and don't seem to like Charlie much. Oh and confirmation that Appleton did cup his ears
Have no affinity with Appleton and he clearly has no interest with building any with our fan base. That is fine, of course, he is more than entitled to be a purely ‘transactional’ contracted manager, but in that mode, he can expect frost-burn when things are going poorly and lukewarm when things are going better. At least a point was there for the taking there today, the players gave it their all. However, this transaction failed (like too many before hand) - the transactor entered the wrong numbers and a bit too much later than when it was bleeding obvious to everybody else in the stadium that some of the ‘batteries’ had run themselves into the ground and needed help by being replaced.
You don’t require UEFA Pro licences to work that sort of shit out, just a bit of common sense and perhaps a bit of care toward those before you.
We have more than enough in this squad to survive in this league, too much to do to gain promotion this season. I hope our next transactions read LL before we part ways… So wish we had Holden on to somebody who actually gave a shit for the club and fanbase (with one hand tied behind his back).
New owners will get it right before long is my instinct, but may suffer one or two lessons which will turn out beneficial to us in the medium term and when they have of course learnt from them.
Am right behind the club btw and will be at Port Vale next weekend, just believe I can see the wood from the trees (as so many other on here can) better than those holding the paperwork and controls at the moment. It will come…and we should remain ready to support for better times ahead.
Andy Scott, football is an emotional game with fans holding passion a plenty for their club of choice. A bit of reciprocity should be added to the role profile next time around please. Wouldn’t wait too long to start re-drafting.
Was the first time tuning in for a few games, a draw would have probably been fair, we put in a much better performance than I thought it'd be (the expectations were not high at all tbh) and Oxford weren't quite the steady, passing possession side was expecting to see.
Appleton didn't have much to work with given the injuries and shiteness of players but he still managed to pull off some bizzare subs, tactically we've stood still and defensively no better.
The two goals are our usual inability to read and defend as a unit, the first, Edun and Jones are taken out by a soft through ball and Hector is late to react. The second, the midfield (Fraser) decide to stand off and just let a speculative 25 yarder ping off.
The kids tried but shouldn't be starting, Anderson harries well but is generally poor. He may have some better closing down stats that L Watson but I'll guess there's more to the debate than it being that simple, we looked better with him in the side and played more in the front foot for example.
Special mention to T. Watson who looked very good.
Extra special mention to the Scottish Pirlo and his corners. The real Pirlo could have been limbless and put 3 better balls in. Useless twat.
I have never seen a football team at any level so easy to play against. Even against poor technical sides we kindly allow opposition players seconds to spare, get the ball under control, take a heavy touch, and then another, look up, choose a pass, change their mind and choose another one. Or they just run past freely and into our final third without a hint of a challenge.
We have had a one man midfield for far too long.
PS. If I read another post that goes along the lines of "Hector was superb apart from the mistake that led to their goal," I may shoot myself.
I have never seen a football team at any level so easy to play against. Even against poor technical sides we kindly allow opposition players seconds to spare, get the ball under control, take a heavy touch, and then another, look up, choose a pass, change their mind and choose another one. Or they just run past freely and into our final third without a hint of a challenge.
We have had a one man midfield for far too long.
PS. If I read another post that goes along the lines of "Hector was superb apart from the mistake that led to their goal," I may shoot myself.
Weak squad exposed ✔️ Key players injured ✔️ Having to use too many academy players ✔️ Manager bounce turning to sh*t ✔️ Crowds dwindling ✔️ Confidence evaporating ✔️
Booing ✔️ Rigid adherence to formation that’s not working✔️ Players played out of position ✔️ Rumours of key players leaving ✔️ Promising players’ form deteriorating ✔️ Pinning hopes on a January window ✔️
Rivals thriving, or surviving, at a higher level ✔️
What’s next? Hope that we’ll make multiple good signings in the window evaporating? (I very much hope I’m wrong about this). Manager sacked, to be replaced by someone that we’re not convinced by? We need to break free from this cycle of decline pretty sharpish.
Weak squad exposed ✔️ Key players injured ✔️ Having to use too many academy players ✔️ Manager bounce turning to sh*t ✔️ Crowds dwindling ✔️ Confidence evaporating ✔️
Booing ✔️ Rigid adherence to formation that’s not working✔️
Players played out of position ✔️ Rumours of key players leaving ✔️ Promising players’ form deteriorating ✔️ Pinning hopes on a January window ✔️
Rivals thriving, or surviving, at a higher level ✔️
What’s next? Hope that we’ll make multiple good signings in the window evaporating? (I very much hope I’m wrong about this). Manager sacked, to be replaced by someone that we’re not convinced by? We need to break free from this cycle of decline pretty sharpish.
It is groundhog day mate. I said it early doors, we just copy and paste every season.
There is only one solution now. Sign CBT and Dobson on longer contracts. Sign a new left back, right back, centre back, two new centre mids, a target man and a right winger. Sack Appleton and be ambitious with our next appointment. Give whoever it is the free hit of the rest of this season to build a winning side. It's what Ipswich did.
Anything else is unacceptable. Woke up miserable today. Watched back my footage and the highlights and Dobson is the only player up to it from yesterday. CBT also had spells but I think he is looking demoralised.
Weak squad exposed ✔️ Key players injured ✔️ Having to use too many academy players ✔️ Manager bounce turning to sh*t ✔️ Crowds dwindling ✔️ Confidence evaporating ✔️
Booing ✔️ Rigid adherence to formation that’s not working✔️
Players played out of position ✔️ Rumours of key players leaving ✔️ Promising players’ form deteriorating ✔️ Pinning hopes on a January window ✔️
Rivals thriving, or surviving, at a higher level ✔️
What’s next? Hope that we’ll make multiple good signings in the window evaporating? (I very much hope I’m wrong about this). Manager sacked, to be replaced by someone that we’re not convinced by? We need to break free from this cycle of decline pretty sharpish.
It is groundhog day mate. I said it early doors, we just copy and paste every season.
There is only one solution now. Sign CBT and Dobson on longer contracts. Sign a new left back, right back, centre back, two new centre mids, a target man and a right winger. Sack Appleton and be ambitious with our next appointment. Give whoever it is the free hit of the rest of this season to build a winning side. It's what Ipswich did.
Anything else is unacceptable. Woke up miserable today. Watched back my footage and the highlights and Dobson is the only player up to it from yesterday. CBT also had spells but I think he is looking demoralised.
Apologies if you've said before, but have you any names to throw out there that would satisfy you as being an ambitious appointment to replace Appleton?
Weak squad exposed ✔️ Key players injured ✔️ Having to use too many academy players ✔️ Manager bounce turning to sh*t ✔️ Crowds dwindling ✔️ Confidence evaporating ✔️
Booing ✔️ Rigid adherence to formation that’s not working✔️
Players played out of position ✔️ Rumours of key players leaving ✔️ Promising players’ form deteriorating ✔️ Pinning hopes on a January window ✔️
Rivals thriving, or surviving, at a higher level ✔️
What’s next? Hope that we’ll make multiple good signings in the window evaporating? (I very much hope I’m wrong about this). Manager sacked, to be replaced by someone that we’re not convinced by? We need to break free from this cycle of decline pretty sharpish.
It is groundhog day mate. I said it early doors, we just copy and paste every season.
There is only one solution now. Sign CBT and Dobson on longer contracts. Sign a new left back, right back, centre back, two new centre mids, a target man and a right winger. Sack Appleton and be ambitious with our next appointment. Give whoever it is the free hit of the rest of this season to build a winning side. It's what Ipswich did.
Anything else is unacceptable. Woke up miserable today. Watched back my footage and the highlights and Dobson is the only player up to it from yesterday. CBT also had spells but I think he is looking demoralised.
Apologies if you've said before, but have you any names to throw out there that would satisfy you as being an ambitious appointment to replace Appleton?
Groundhog Day. 😉
The problem we have is that in order to attract a manager of substance we need to do some of the things Braz is suggesting in terms of recruitment, and we need to prove that there really is funding and a proper plan in place. No quality manager would want to come here otherwise.
Weak squad exposed ✔️ Key players injured ✔️ Having to use too many academy players ✔️ Manager bounce turning to sh*t ✔️ Crowds dwindling ✔️ Confidence evaporating ✔️
Booing ✔️ Rigid adherence to formation that’s not working✔️
Players played out of position ✔️ Rumours of key players leaving ✔️ Promising players’ form deteriorating ✔️ Pinning hopes on a January window ✔️
Rivals thriving, or surviving, at a higher level ✔️
What’s next? Hope that we’ll make multiple good signings in the window evaporating? (I very much hope I’m wrong about this). Manager sacked, to be replaced by someone that we’re not convinced by? We need to break free from this cycle of decline pretty sharpish.
It is groundhog day mate. I said it early doors, we just copy and paste every season.
There is only one solution now. Sign CBT and Dobson on longer contracts. Sign a new left back, right back, centre back, two new centre mids, a target man and a right winger. Sack Appleton and be ambitious with our next appointment. Give whoever it is the free hit of the rest of this season to build a winning side. It's what Ipswich did.
Anything else is unacceptable. Woke up miserable today. Watched back my footage and the highlights and Dobson is the only player up to it from yesterday. CBT also had spells but I think he is looking demoralised.
Apologies if you've said before, but have you any names to throw out there that would satisfy you as being an ambitious appointment to replace Appleton?
I'd take Curbs, Bowyer, Jacko or Powell just because we will have a connection again and at least our teams won't be as soft as this.
If we are being a bit smarter and willing to spend, I'd certainly look at Jon Brady of Northampton, he's getting the best out of a very limited squad and is a manager 'on the up'. Dave Challinor would have been a sound appointment, but I think he's pretty settled.
On a more ambitious note it would be Nathan Jones or Tony Mowbray, not that either will come here, but they would if the money was right imo. We are a good project and it would look good on the CV to get a tarnished club up a division.
Ultimately though this mob will sack Appleton, get in Pearce on an interim basis, not spend in January and use the lack of stability as an excuse and then would roll the dice again on a cheap, unambitious appointment.
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Start of the season he would have agreed to Carlisle away without a second thought.
Something needs to change and quickly at our club as this endless cycle of mediocrity & failure may not drive away all us diehards but will dwindle away the fans who are meant to be our future.
I appreciate Appleton has to play most of them now, but throwing them in at the deep end against L1 teams and with an expectant crowd can be relatively damaging to confidence. Opinions are being built about players that really shouldn't be anywhere near the first team, plus the potential for picking up niggling injuries while are still growing into full men's football.
I feel the TCampbell of last season makes a better hash of his chances today - snatching at crosses, taking an extra touch, not being direct enough. Anderson just feels like technically (touch, mainly) and positionally (pushing too far forward), he's nowhere near ready. Kanu works hard, but should be, at best, cover for May in the last quarter of a game or not asked to be in the role he isn't built for. Rylah and Casey shouldn't be getting minutes at all.
Injuries and fitness to both the poor loans and signings are the root cause here, but at least today, LWatson should have either started or given 30+ minutes to help Anderson. For someone who supposedly was brought in to bring the youngsters through, he's blooding some of them too recklessly at times.
Our only hope now is to do what Ipswich done 2 seasons ago, plan for next year and end strong.
Vlog up. My usual cheery self 😉 enjoy (if you can)
Appleton is a total joke - CBT or Dobson wont sign new contracts with MA as manager - he needs to go quickly
I truly thought Oxford smashed us and I'm surprised seeing people post it was close. We were good for about 5-10 minutes
They really rate Dobson, think that's the worst Appleton side they've watched and don't seem to like Charlie much. Oh and confirmation that Appleton did cup his ears
You don’t require UEFA Pro licences to work that sort of shit out, just a bit of common sense and perhaps a bit of care toward those before you.
We have more than enough in this squad to survive in this league, too much to do to gain promotion this season. I hope our next transactions read LL before we part ways… So wish we had Holden on to somebody who actually gave a shit for the club and fanbase (with one hand tied behind his back).
Am right behind the club btw and will be at Port Vale next weekend, just believe I can see the wood from the trees (as so many other on here can) better than those holding the paperwork and controls at the moment. It will come…and we should remain ready to support for better times ahead.
Andy Scott, football is an emotional game with fans holding passion a plenty for their club of choice. A bit of reciprocity should be added to the role profile next time around please. Wouldn’t wait too long to start re-drafting.
Appleton didn't have much to work with given the injuries and shiteness of players but he still managed to pull off some bizzare subs, tactically we've stood still and defensively no better.
The two goals are our usual inability to read and defend as a unit, the first, Edun and Jones are taken out by a soft through ball and Hector is late to react. The second, the midfield (Fraser) decide to stand off and just let a speculative 25 yarder ping off.
The kids tried but shouldn't be starting, Anderson harries well but is generally poor. He may have some better closing down stats that L Watson but I'll guess there's more to the debate than it being that simple, we looked better with him in the side and played more in the front foot for example.
Special mention to T. Watson who looked very good.
Extra special mention to the Scottish Pirlo and his corners. The real Pirlo could have been limbless and put 3 better balls in. Useless twat.
Agreed that he did very well. 👍
I have never seen a football team at any level so easy to play against. Even against poor technical sides we kindly allow opposition players seconds to spare, get the ball under control, take a heavy touch, and then another, look up, choose a pass, change their mind and choose another one. Or they just run past freely and into our final third without a hint of a challenge.
We have had a one man midfield for far too long.
PS. If I read another post that goes along the lines of "Hector was superb apart from the mistake that led to their goal," I may shoot myself.
Fraser continues to take the piss with his corners.
Weak squad exposed ✔️
Key players injured ✔️
Having to use too many academy players ✔️
Manager bounce turning to sh*t ✔️
Crowds dwindling ✔️
Confidence evaporating ✔️
Rigid adherence to formation that’s not working✔️
Players played out of position ✔️
Rumours of key players leaving ✔️
Promising players’ form deteriorating ✔️
Pinning hopes on a January window ✔️
Hope that we’ll make multiple good signings in the window evaporating? (I very much hope I’m wrong about this).
Manager sacked, to be replaced by someone that we’re not convinced by?
We need to break free from this cycle of decline pretty sharpish.
There is only one solution now. Sign CBT and Dobson on longer contracts. Sign a new left back, right back, centre back, two new centre mids, a target man and a right winger. Sack Appleton and be ambitious with our next appointment. Give whoever it is the free hit of the rest of this season to build a winning side. It's what Ipswich did.
Anything else is unacceptable. Woke up miserable today. Watched back my footage and the highlights and Dobson is the only player up to it from yesterday. CBT also had spells but I think he is looking demoralised.
The problem we have is that in order to attract a manager of substance we need to do some of the things Braz is suggesting in terms of recruitment, and we need to prove that there really is funding and a proper plan in place. No quality manager would want to come here otherwise.
If we are being a bit smarter and willing to spend, I'd certainly look at Jon Brady of Northampton, he's getting the best out of a very limited squad and is a manager 'on the up'. Dave Challinor would have been a sound appointment, but I think he's pretty settled.
On a more ambitious note it would be Nathan Jones or Tony Mowbray, not that either will come here, but they would if the money was right imo. We are a good project and it would look good on the CV to get a tarnished club up a division.
Ultimately though this mob will sack Appleton, get in Pearce on an interim basis, not spend in January and use the lack of stability as an excuse and then would roll the dice again on a cheap, unambitious appointment.