I’d take literally anyone over Bowyer. The man is a myth.
Toxic is a word I’ve seen on here over the past few pages and I couldn’t have put it better myself.
He blames everyone but himself and constantly brings out the line that he improves every player under him. No you don’t Lee. You’re a very limited coach who got very lucky with an extremely talented group of players. You even did your best to screw that up.
Your record at Birmingham was shocking yet I heard you blaming everyone else. Nothing changes.
So just to clear this up you're saying you'd be pretty happy with him then?
Odds are back up now. Cowley the favourite at 2/1. Leam Richardson is up to 10/1, though that’s probably because I backed him at 33/1 and it doesn’t take much to move these markets
Wow! Having not been on here all day I’ve come on and I see it’s all gone a bit hysterical.
There is a shortlist, those that are on the shortlist have been approached to see if they want to be considered, those that don’t want to be considered have said no, those that do..have said yes.
Rather than being insulting, an ex England and Premier League academy coach wouldn’t necessarily want a full time League One position, would think about an Interim basis given his links and after considering, decide against. That can easily look worse than it is!
Those that say yes, we’ll know nothing about until the last yes remains standing.
Those that say no and we find out about, if held in a high regard, says a fair bit about what we’re actually trying to do!
Thanks for sharing.
Do you know how many ‘yes’s’ there are? When do you think they’ll be a decision?
I assume Powell has ruled himself out for a permanent appointment as well. But if not and we want someone who will have an almost omnipotent ability to unite the fan base, and inspire and care for the players, he’s your man.
The irony of @IAgree loling my positive posts about Bowyer because he disagrees.
I don’t think it’s ironic and really does it matter? People lol ed my posts expressing the opposite view (which judging by many posts is also widely held).
Doesn’t matter at all no I’m not angry just lightening the mood, lol away 👍🏻
Perhaps I'm old fashioned but I still can't get my head round how managers can be judged in less than a year in the job however that seems to be the way nowadays. He certainly threw himself into the role and came across as a really decent bloke, results have been shocking this season however who knows how things would have gone if he'd had time to turn things round.
As with countless managers before him I think he deserves substantial mitigation given the constant circus that seems to surround our club on a permanent basis.
As for the next appointment, I'd be thrilled if it was Bowyer although cant see it happening.
The promotion season was the most enjoyable time as a fan for some years (There's been very little competition). I was gutted to see him go and none of the appointments since have done any better, although granted they all have plenty of mitigation.
Things didn't end well but there's a huge amount of re-writing history going on with fans saying he got 'lucky' with the players at his disposal. Lots of managers have decent squads and don't get promoted, every season there's about 10-12 teams you could argue have squads capable of promotion.
The fact is if you win promotion you've earnt it on merit and that team played some really good football that season. I certainly don't remember seeing that standard of play matched since he left so he was clearly a decent coach (Or clever enough to appoint decent coaches). I know some point out the later parts of Lee's time didn't go so well but was any of the football on offer even then any worse than what we have seen the last couple of seasons? Because what I've seen has largely been dross.
I know the 'I improve players' line got trotted out a lot by Lee, but the facts are that he did just that. We have a lot of players in our squad at the moment who on paper should be capable league one players who for whatever reason just aren't delivering.
He had a fantastic record of bringing players through the academy as well which again would come in handy given we appear to be relying on a number of youth players this season barring any significant movement in the transfer window.
All that said I don't see it happening. From the names I've seen suggested I think Darren Moore would be a really good shout. Always came across very articulate and already proven he can get a team out of this division. Not seen his name mentioned but Dave Challinor plays a very attractive brand of football and is a promotion specialist (Albeit at a lower level). Stockport seem very well run and very well backed financially so whether he would actually come is another question.
I'm normally glass half-full with all things Charlton but like many fans recent events have led to some real disillusionment with how things are going and I just can't shake the feeling the next appointment will be really underwhelming. Really hoping to be proved wrong.
Odds are back up now. Cowley the favourite at 2/1. Leam Richardson is up to 10/1, though that’s probably because I backed him at 33/1 and it doesn’t take much to move these markets
Perhaps I'm old fashioned but I still can't get my head round how managers can be judged in less than a year in the job however that seems to be the way nowadays. He certainly threw himself into the role and came across as a really decent bloke, results have been shocking this season however who knows how things would have gone if he'd had time to turn things round.
As with countless managers before him I think he deserves substantial mitigation given the constant circus that seems to surround our club on a permanent basis.
As for the next appointment, I'd be thrilled if it was Bowyer although cant see it happening.
The promotion season was the most enjoyable time as a fan for some years (There's been very little competition). I was gutted to see him go and none of the appointments since have done any better, although granted they all have plenty of mitigation.
Things didn't end well but there's a huge amount of re-writing history going on with fans saying he got 'lucky' with the players at his disposal. Lots of managers have decent squads and don't get promoted, every season there's about 10-12 teams you could argue have squads capable of promotion.
The fact is if you win promotion you've earnt it on merit and that team played some really good football that season. I certainly don't remember seeing that standard of play matched since he left so he was clearly a decent coach (Or clever enough to appoint decent coaches). I know some point out the later parts of Lee's time didn't go so well but was any of the football on offer even then any worse than what we have seen the last couple of seasons? Because what I've seen has largely been dross.
I know the 'I improve players' line got trotted out a lot by Lee, but the facts are that he did just that. We have a lot of players in our squad at the moment who on paper should be capable league one players who for whatever reason just aren't delivering.
He had a fantastic record of bringing players through the academy as well which again would come in handy given we appear to be relying on a number of youth players this season barring any significant movement in the transfer window.
All that said I don't see it happening. From the names I've seen suggested I think Darren Moore would be a really good shout. Always came across very articulate and already proven he can get a team out of this division. Not seen his name mentioned but Dave Challinor plays a very attractive brand of football and is a promotion specialist (Albeit at a lower level). Stockport seem very well run and very well backed financially so whether he would actually come is another question.
I'm normally glass half-full with all things Charlton but like many fans recent events have led to some real disillusionment with how things are going and I just can't shake the feeling the next appointment will be really underwhelming. Really hoping to be proved wrong.
Problem is that our expectations are so low and the SMT, along with Methven, seem to be all over the place.
It looks as if the incoming players will not be good enough to really lift our level, so the speed at which key injured players return will be more important than who we sign over the next few days.
It looks very doubtful we will get a really good manager, but like you, I hope I am wrong. Whoever comes in needs support, but it is really hard to support our club with the shit ownership at the helm.
A clamour for Bowyer and even considering Cowley or a return for Robinson makes me wonder if we deserve what we’re getting at the moment. I know expectations are set to low, but really?!
Odds are back up now. Cowley the favourite at 2/1. Leam Richardson is up to 10/1, though that’s probably because I backed him at 33/1 and it doesn’t take much to move these markets
Odds are back up now. Cowley the favourite at 2/1. Leam Richardson is up to 10/1, though that’s probably because I backed him at 33/1 and it doesn’t take much to move these markets
Odds are back up now. Cowley the favourite at 2/1. Leam Richardson is up to 10/1, though that’s probably because I backed him at 33/1 and it doesn’t take much to move these markets
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Quel surprise Rodney.
Perhaps I'm old fashioned but I still can't get my head round how managers can be judged in less than a year in the job however that seems to be the way nowadays. He certainly threw himself into the role and came across as a really decent bloke, results have been shocking this season however who knows how things would have gone if he'd had time to turn things round.
As with countless managers before him I think he deserves substantial mitigation given the constant circus that seems to surround our club on a permanent basis.
As for the next appointment, I'd be thrilled if it was Bowyer although cant see it happening.
The promotion season was the most enjoyable time as a fan for some years (There's been very little competition). I was gutted to see him go and none of the appointments since have done any better, although granted they all have plenty of mitigation.
Things didn't end well but there's a huge amount of re-writing history going on with fans saying he got 'lucky' with the players at his disposal. Lots of managers have decent squads and don't get promoted, every season there's about 10-12 teams you could argue have squads capable of promotion.
The fact is if you win promotion you've earnt it on merit and that team played some really good football that season. I certainly don't remember seeing that standard of play matched since he left so he was clearly a decent coach (Or clever enough to appoint decent coaches). I know some point out the later parts of Lee's time didn't go so well but was any of the football on offer even then any worse than what we have seen the last couple of seasons? Because what I've seen has largely been dross.
I know the 'I improve players' line got trotted out a lot by Lee, but the facts are that he did just that. We have a lot of players in our squad at the moment who on paper should be capable league one players who for whatever reason just aren't delivering.
He had a fantastic record of bringing players through the academy as well which again would come in handy given we appear to be relying on a number of youth players this season barring any significant movement in the transfer window.
All that said I don't see it happening. From the names I've seen suggested I think Darren Moore would be a really good shout. Always came across very articulate and already proven he can get a team out of this division. Not seen his name mentioned but Dave Challinor plays a very attractive brand of football and is a promotion specialist (Albeit at a lower level). Stockport seem very well run and very well backed financially so whether he would actually come is another question.
I'm normally glass half-full with all things Charlton but like many fans recent events have led to some real disillusionment with how things are going and I just can't shake the feeling the next appointment will be really underwhelming. Really hoping to be proved wrong.
Danny Cowley fave now 🙈
It looks as if the incoming players will not be good enough to really lift our level, so the speed at which key injured players return will be more important than who we sign over the next few days.
It looks very doubtful we will get a really good manager, but like you, I hope I am wrong. Whoever comes in needs support, but it is really hard to support our club with the shit ownership at the helm.
Bowyer is not the answer.
Emma Hayes, Anthony Hayes and Ben Hayes
I know expectations are set to low, but really?!
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