I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
Just seen the report about Powell turning down the job.
I don't really understand it, but I will say, if Powell was looking to get back into management it might be a nice arrangement for him and someone to tide us over until we get a fulltime manager in.
That being said, he's not been a manager for a while, and while he is a lovely man, he won this division a decade ago and even at the time he wasn't the most tactically progressive manager.
I feel like we need new blood. I'm glad that Senda has gone not because he seemed like a good or bad coach, but because us hiring a manager and then sticking them with coaches coming up from the youth team needs to end. We need new ideas. I expect Hayes will be gone when the new manager comes in as well, and Pearce will go back to the youth team. As it should be. It's time to expand our horizons.
You'll be giving you're right arm for someone of Powell's stature once this shambles has come to its conclusion.
I don't know what "stature" means apart from being a good dude who once managed this club. NabySarr said:
Just seen the report about Powell turning down the job.
I don't really understand it, but I will say, if Powell was looking to get back into management it might be a nice arrangement for him and someone to tide us over until we get a fulltime manager in.
That being said, he's not been a manager for a while, and while he is a lovely man, he won this division a decade ago and even at the time he wasn't the most tactically progressive manager.
I feel like we need new blood. I'm glad that Senda has gone not because he seemed like a good or bad coach, but because us hiring a manager and then sticking them with coaches coming up from the youth team needs to end. We need new ideas. I expect Hayes will be gone when the new manager comes in as well, and Pearce will go back to the youth team. As it should be. It's time to expand our horizons.
I’m sure Powell has developed tactically while working at Spurs and England. If we had hired someone who has been England coach for years and worked in the spurs academy for years then I think that would be viewed as an exciting appointment even forgetting the fact it’s Powell
That's a fair point. I think I'm not totally clear on what he did with England apart from give hugs. And a hug from SCP would be lovely, so I figure that's worth the salary there. Kind of same at Spurs, not entirely sure what his day-to-day role was.
I also suspect he wants something else next, and it's probably not League One management.
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
Get curbs in, cant see why supporters dont want him he would sort out from top to bottom he knows what is required or does that not suit our new owners ?? Roy Hodgson is managing Palace at 76 in the premiership Curbs is over 10 years younger
But Hodgson has spent the last 600 years managing teams. He's barely been out of the game at all, they couldn't even keep him retired. Curbs hasn't managed a team in 15 years, a lot has changed and he'll have to catch up with that. I don't think it would go well
He would make more improvements in a week than the candidates suggested would do in a season imo
Hard to base that on anything though given that some of the managers being suggested have had management careers shorter than the time Curbs has spent out of the job. I love Curbs as much as the next person but for all he might tighten up the defence, scratch out some draws and get two strikers working hard at the other end of the pitch I think he'd struggle with the modern footballer. He was already one for falling out with players and that was in a time when the manager usually won those struggles. We just don't know what he'd be like coming back in though and that makes it hard to justify throwing him back in to a very different game both on and off the pitch
Id still say he has more knowledge,class and get more respect than the so far listed candidates and is hardly a novice
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose?
I think I had the line "he was humbled by his Southhampton experience, but not managing at League One humbled."
Yeah, it really seemed to do something to him. I still suspect we'll see him managing a Championship team at some point this season. But if I were on a hiring committee and I saw how he handled Southampton, I would be very skeptical about hiring someone who was a previously very highly rated coach.
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?
Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked
That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next
Robinson sticks to his 4-2-3-1 doesn't he? Hard to see May fitting into that.
Matty Taylor didn’t do too bad in his Oxford side.
Slightly different player thought. More physicality and hold up to his game. Not a target man, but I think a little more of a dynamic forward than May.
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?
Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?
Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked
That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next
I hate the idea of bringing back any of our old managers but I honestly can't imagine having to put up with Karl Robinson again. I just cannot. I know a fair few on here liked him and rated him but I just couldn't stand all the chat that covered for a lack of enjoyable football. We had two fairly bleak seasons with him as manager, one where we finished 13th which is a joint lowest finish and one where we'd gone off the rails and Bowyer managed to get the same squad into the play-offs somehow. At Oxford despite some decent backing he only finished in the play-off spots twice and both times he lost. He hasn't been promoted out of L1 since 2014/15 despite operating almost exclusively in that league over that period. He had Roland to contend with but the transfer business doesn't look too different to back then so I don't see much changing. I at least understand the logic of bringing back managers who previously succeeded, but ones who just failed? No thanks.
Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose?
He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid?
I hate the idea of bringing back any of our old managers but I honestly can't imagine having to put up with Karl Robinson again. I just cannot. I know a fair few on here liked him and rated him but I just couldn't stand all the chat that covered for a lack of enjoyable football. We had two fairly bleak seasons with him as manager, one where we finished 13th which is a joint lowest finish and one where we'd gone off the rails and Bowyer managed to get the same squad into the play-offs somehow. At Oxford despite some decent backing he only finished in the play-off spots twice and both times he lost. He hasn't been promoted out of L1 since 2014/15 despite operating almost exclusively in that league over that period. He had Roland to contend with but the transfer business doesn't look too different to back then so I don't see much changing. I at least understand the logic of bringing back managers who previously succeeded, but ones who just failed? No thanks.
Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose?
He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid?
Problem Jones is going to have is everyone saw it implode at Southampton including L1 players. His methods worked at Luton but nowhere else and I'd imagine that will be even more true now.
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?
Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked
That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next
did he shag the doll ?
No it went down on him and he had to get the leak repaired.
Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose?
He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid?
I think football dressing rooms are pretty tough environments and any chink of weakness that is exposed would be ruthlessly exploited. If he’s any way as insane as he came across at Southampton then he’ll be ridiculed behind his back. Talking himself up would make it worse. It’s a no from me.
I think some of the reporting is a little unfair on Andy Scott, Cawley's article does state that he has contacted a number of managers both in and out of work to ask if they would like to be considered for the role (as well as those applying separately).
That's a standard process - the fact that Ferguson said no is only being reported for headlines - DF basically said no thanks I'm happy where I am, so he comes off the list. If Bonner, Jones, Moore etc have all been approached and remain on that list then I'm sure our collective view would be different, but we won't know that just yet.
I agree its poor to offer Powell an interim role and a stupid own goal.
There's too much reactionary emotion and noise, it wasn't going to work under Holden and they've made their decision. I'm watching on intently, they're at a crossroads early on with the fan base... lets see how they respond this week.
This is exactly how I see it. I think some of our fanbase need to relax a little bit.
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?
Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked
That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next
did he shag the doll ?
No it went down on him and he had to get the leak repaired.
That’s what happens when you use the tactics board with pins in it, schoolboy error 😏.
I hate the idea of bringing back any of our old managers but I honestly can't imagine having to put up with Karl Robinson again. I just cannot. I know a fair few on here liked him and rated him but I just couldn't stand all the chat that covered for a lack of enjoyable football. We had two fairly bleak seasons with him as manager, one where we finished 13th which is a joint lowest finish and one where we'd gone off the rails and Bowyer managed to get the same squad into the play-offs somehow. At Oxford despite some decent backing he only finished in the play-off spots twice and both times he lost. He hasn't been promoted out of L1 since 2014/15 despite operating almost exclusively in that league over that period. He had Roland to contend with but the transfer business doesn't look too different to back then so I don't see much changing. I at least understand the logic of bringing back managers who previously succeeded, but ones who just failed? No thanks.
I doubt we’ll get better.
Be nice to try though. I still remember the 8 game winless streak, or the 1 win in 8 that followed three games after that. This was a team that had Amos, a fit JFC, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, Bauer, Fosu, Solly, Aribo, Pearce and Ricky Holmes and still had to be rescued by Bowyer getting more than a quarter of our overall points in 9 games. The season before that we won 1 game in 14 at one point, which was a worse run than Slade ever went on that season. I think that Robinson's cheeky chappy charm and our overwhelming hatred of Roland actually spared Robinson from proper scrutiny a lot of the time.
I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either.
I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed
What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?
Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked
That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next
did he shag the doll ?
No it went down on him and he had to get the leak repaired.
The historical evidence proves that changing the manager will make zero difference to the outcome except maybe for an ephemeral bounce in motivation before the rot sets back in.
Following the play off final under Bowyer - we have lost him, Adkins, Jackson, Garner and Holden. They can't all have been inept.
The downward spiral continues at an alarming rate under these so called 'football professionals'.
The only relevant qualifications for this job are to be cheap, available and compliant.
I am very relieved that Chris Powell did not sully his reputation on this bunch of hopeless charlatans.
Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose?
He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid?
Problem Jones is going to have is everyone saw it implode at Southampton including L1 players. His methods worked at Luton but nowhere else and I'd imagine that will be even more true now.
Yeah that would be my concern: how drastically and publicly it fell apart at Southampton.
I think he may want to take a little time so that it's less fresh in the memory.
The rush to sack Holden is strange, either they have someone lined up or contractually maybe an extra compensation was about to cost them more after so many games etc.
They needed someone to blame in a hurry, and wanted to give the impression of a decisive, strong leadership who, how does it go? "don't do failure". Because they are American. Apparently that makes a difference.
I seem to recall the great Katrien telling us that Roland “didn’t do failure” either
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I also suspect he wants something else next, and it's probably not League One management.
Yeah, it really seemed to do something to him. I still suspect we'll see him managing a Championship team at some point this season. But if I were on a hiring committee and I saw how he handled Southampton, I would be very skeptical about hiring someone who was a previously very highly rated coach.
That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next
Following the play off final under Bowyer - we have lost him, Adkins, Jackson, Garner and Holden. They can't all have been inept.
The downward spiral continues at an alarming rate under these so called 'football professionals'.
The only relevant qualifications for this job are to be cheap, available and compliant.
I am very relieved that Chris Powell did not sully his reputation on this bunch of hopeless charlatans.
I think he may want to take a little time so that it's less fresh in the memory.
Similar reason why Lee Bowyer would turn the job down ?
Lee has bigger fish to catch.