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Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    Scoham said:
    Hein signed a new contract with Arsenal in June when it was about to expire, so if they didn’t rate him at all they could have released him.

    Or just gave him a contract to get a fee 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
    OK I bow to local knowledge - but I would ask how long it is since you lived there?  I think there has been a fair amount of regeneration...
    A few years but I have a lot of friends that still live there .  The city centre is , by all accounts , not nice . As I say, Fife is lovely .  
    How many city centres around the UK would you actually class as 'nice' though? There can't be many.
    Canterbury, Winchester, Bath, Truro, York, Chester, Edinburgh, Norwich,
    Oxford, Cambridge, Salisbury, Durham, Chichester, Worcester……
    I noticed he didn’t mention Dover.

    I understand why. 
     Because Dover is a town ?  :#
  • Wasn’t it made clear by Jones that Mannion would be No.2, if so, not sure he can complain.
    I get you but being number two to a Davies, Ruddy or Begovic is one thing. Being four years senior and being number two to a 22 year old is another. Fwiw I’m sure those saying Hein being number one are correct. No development for Arsenal and Hein sitting it out. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,777
    See we’ve morphed into the holiday thread, anyone else been to Mykonos…🤔
    Nope. Been to Crete.

    Whilst we're off topic, has anyone bumped into any current squad players on holiday? 
    Been to Athens, Rhodes and Santorini, which was good....
    Athens, Naxos, Thessaloniki, Delphi, Paros, Santorini. 
  • Kinsella87
    Kinsella87 Posts: 464



    Arsenal mate sent me this, all pointing towards him being our Number 1...
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    Will he be the first Estonian to play for us? 
    Didn’t Charlie Methven go to that school ?
    Brilliant 👏👏
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,777
    Swisdom said:
    I was surprised my little hint got swallowed up so quickly but he’s a very exciting player potentially 

    to have so many international caps means he must have something about him 

    big bugger too
    Or Estonia has only one decent keeper. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,550
    I watched his highlights in their recent pre-season friendly vs Bournemouth - interestingly he wasn't great with his feet for an Arsenal keeper, I think the first 2 minutes of the video are him booting the ball out of play while under no pressure. 

    He made a couple of good saves and was the hero in the penalty shootout, you can see he will be a good player in the future. I'm not sure how good he'll be as a number 1 at first-team level, but he's got pedigree. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Swisdom said:
    I was surprised my little hint got swallowed up so quickly but he’s a very exciting player potentially 

    to have so many international caps means he must have something about him 

    big bugger too
    sorry, I was on the ball yesterday! 
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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,777
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
    OK I bow to local knowledge - but I would ask how long it is since you lived there?  I think there has been a fair amount of regeneration...
    A few years but I have a lot of friends that still live there .  The city centre is , by all accounts , not nice . As I say, Fife is lovely .  
    How many city centres around the UK would you actually class as 'nice' though? There can't be many.
    Canterbury, Winchester, Bath, Truro, York, Chester, Edinburgh, Norwich,
    Oxford, Cambridge, Salisbury, Durham, Chichester, Worcester……
    I noticed he didn’t mention Dover.

    I understand why. 
     Because Dover is a town ?  :#
    Very good. I actually meant because it’s vile. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    Feel much more optimistic about Hein than I do about Begovic.

    I don’t think Jones would agree to it if there wasn’t a chance that it could be made permanent in 12 months time either.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,354
    Agree, you would have thought we have a chance of perm if we get promoted
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,953
    Redhenry said:
    Agree, you would have thought we have a chance of perm if we get promoted
    Or the player coming back on loan in the Championship, if Arsenal didn't want to sell him. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,192
    edited August 2024
    "Can he kick it?
    Hein, he can"
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,272
    Leuth said:
    Mannion fully understood the situation from before he signed. The idea that he'll be pissed off at this development is a nonsense. We signed him because Jones trusts him to be the guy in an emergency, but we signed him as the number 2
    Mannion will still probably start on Saturday, if he does well then he might be able to keep the spot initially. If he does well, gets a clean sheet, and still gets dropped then he might be a bit pissed 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,823
    I watched his highlights in their recent pre-season friendly vs Bournemouth - interestingly he wasn't great with his feet for an Arsenal keeper, I think the first 2 minutes of the video are him booting the ball out of play while under no pressure. 

    He made a couple of good saves and was the hero in the penalty shootout, you can see he will be a good player in the future. I'm not sure how good he'll be as a number 1 at first-team level, but he's got pedigree. 
    Who is he meant to be passing it out to for us ? If he commands his box and saves shots , that’s good enough for me . 
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,416
    Feel much more optimistic about Hein than I do about Begovic.

    I don’t think Jones would agree to it if there wasn’t a chance that it could be made permanent in 12 months time either.
    Hein sight is a wonderful thing 🤷‍♂️😉
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,886
    "The mist on the Thames is all Hein, all Hein
    The mist on the Thames is all Hein, come on..."




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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,204
    From mate who has arsenal season ticket.

    "I've seen him a few times. We've had him for god knows how long. Think we signed him in 22. 

    Kids only 22 years old. Tall. He's got talent and is a good shot stopper. 

    Playing out from the back would say due to his height is not his biggest asset. He's like 6'3". 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,981
    Here’s hoping it’s a season long loan and not til January. A keeper and defence really need to work together over a season to get that rhythm and consistency. Wouldn’t want a Connor Gallagher situation where he plays a blinder up to Christmas then joins a championship team for the second half of the season. 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,354
    that was the crooks fault tho

  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,032
    Asked my mate who is a massive Gooner about Hein. He said the following 'fingers crossed you have an obligation to buy clause if he plays 1 minute lol'. His review is much less glowing than the others but maybe he's just miserable! 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,332
    Won't it be nice to have two tall goalkeepers.
  • Could be good but also think I’d look half decent in goal for arsenal with all their players in some non competitive “franchise” match . 
  • Leuth said:
    Mannion fully understood the situation from before he signed. The idea that he'll be pissed off at this development is a nonsense. We signed him because Jones trusts him to be the guy in an emergency, but we signed him as the number 2
    Well possibly but at 26 years of age and after an impressive last half of last season at Cambridge I’d have thought that he’d at least aspire to being number one, particularly in the third tier. Perhaps it’ll inspire him to make himself undropable. Competition is a good thing but nothing is going to make me believe he’s going to be fully understanding of this. Particularly if he starts on Saturday and does well.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,912
    "Can he kick it?
    Hein, he can"
    'Hein slick maneuver' when he sets up a last minute winner 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,156
    I had this Arsenal fan in the back of my cab last night....
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,285
    I had this Arsenal fan in the back of my cab last night....

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