If Hein joins and gets called up by Estonia does this automatically get matches off for internationals? I know it’s usually 3 call ups but I thought if your first team keeper got called up it was automatically off though could well be wrong on that.
Hein coming in as number one or two ? He’s 22 whereas Mannion is 26. Both relatively inexperienced but I’d think Mannion won’t be happy bench warming to a loan four years his junior with probably less experience.
I was surprised my little hint got swallowed up so quickly but he’s a very exciting player potentially
to have so many international caps means he must have something about him
big bugger too
Jones does like players who can mix it up and fair enough. Even with a GK, as you want someone who can and will plough through anyone in the way to claim a cross or through ball.
Wasn’t it made clear by Jones that Mannion would be No.2, if so, not sure he can complain.
Yes basically it was because he said he wanted to get an experienced keeper in as number one. Mannion is hopefully the future and will I’m sure get games in the Cup games. Whether Hein is that experienced keeper you can argue about but as said above with 30 international caps he isn’t coming in to sit on the bench.
I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault.
I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:
1) Charlton ... (Then everything else) ... 4247) Scott Fraser
As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it.
Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy.
I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are.
I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee
Have you seen Dundee? It's a beautiful city. I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look. I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
I used to live very near Dundee. Some of the surrounding area is lovely . Dundee itself is not .
OK I bow to local knowledge - but I would ask how long it is since you lived there? I think there has been a fair amount of regeneration...
A few years but I have a lot of friends that still live there . The city centre is , by all accounts , not nice . As I say, Fife is lovely .
How many city centres around the UK would you actually class as 'nice' though? There can't be many.
Golfaddick gets a fair bit of stick on here regarding his opinion of all things Charlton.
But tbf the last 3 seasons have been total shit resulting in our lowest league position for 98 years.
He has been far more correct in what he says than some of the more optimistic posters on here .
Jeez 45 likes for this. A broken clock is correct twice a day…
The thing is, it’s not about being ‘negative’ and saying we have been crap in recent years - everyone apart from Ronnie acknowledges that.
It’s the constant ‘I’m not going to watch/I’m no longer going to be a Charlton fan’ at the end of posts or the turning everything into a moan even if it goes against a moan he has made earlier.
Everyone’s free to post here as long as what they say is within legal boundaries. If you know someone’s posts annoy you, just skip over them.
Feels like it's all going a bit west with our signings as of the last couple weeks but I remain open to seeing how they perform in a Charlton shirt. Just one more week and we'll have something else to moan about!
according to reports there are no Charlton shirts, were playing in skins with sponsors names in felt tip.
Mannion was second fiddle at Cambridge until getting a chance in the second half of the season so hes no stranger to playing back up, Jones made it pretty clear as well in an early interview about bringing in a first choice plus the fact we've chased plenty of keepers all window. This Arsenal kid sounds like a talent and an international already, cant knock that coming in ahead of you.
At 26 Mannion has made a career total of 98 appearances, sure he'll be happy with second choice in the league and first choice for the cups while still establishing himself for next season and beyond.
Sounds really solid, my best mate is an Arsenal fan and he said he's played a fair bit in pre-season and looked very good, more than happy seeing him back up on the bench for Arsenal, so it sounds like league 1 shouldn't be an issue.
This seems to be a really good move and should save us some wages. Two thumbs up 👍🏻 👍🏻
Hein sounds like a very high calibre signing , exactly the type of player I'm very happy to use a loan slot on. Still expecting Mannion to play all the cups and he'll have known when he signed that NJ always wanted to bring in another keeper.
Exactly how Jones said he would be using the loan system, a player that wouldn't be available to us otherwise and is probably set to be one of if not the best goalkeeper in the division.
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to have so many international caps means he must have something about him
big bugger too
At 26 Mannion has made a career total of 98 appearances, sure he'll be happy with second choice in the league and first choice for the cups while still establishing himself for next season and beyond.
This seems to be a really good move and should save us some wages. Two thumbs up 👍🏻 👍🏻
Highly rated at the gunners