January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

FishCostaFortune said:

MarcusH26 said:

https://twitter.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1743974422300512368?t=tBEmajgTTwzZmO6jkENw3g&s=19

Derby seem to be the main interest in CBT

‘Facing a fight’ seems weird terminology to me.

So far all quiet on the Dobson front…

We need to assure we keep him. 

JCH apparently at their game today. 

If JCH comes here with the right attitude (I’m not questioning it by the way, more pointing out that this will be his last decent wage he can probably earn given his age, I hope he’s not just thinking, one last payday, not too fussed about achieving things on the football field etc), then it’s a good signing.  You can’t argue with his record at this level, and he’s a similar age to May, both can still contribute 

If he comes, I would expect to see Leaburn off in the summer, providing bids come in.  Can’t see our owners likely to have a front 4 of Leaburn, Aneke, JCH and May, and then depending on how we set up, one of May, JCH and Leaburn may not start regularly.  Aneke will be lucky to get any minutes, and is lucky we’ve been so tolerant, so the best he can hope for is the sub’s bench.

then begins the massive rebuild of pretty much everyone behind them all.  Be great if Dobson stays and has better around him.  A bonus if CBT stays as well.  After that; every position is up for grabs.

Fraser needs to go and I think he will.  McGrandles and Terry Taylor need to play a run of games and play well, particularly McGrandles as he would’ve done 2 years.  

I agree with everything you write Cabbles except TC, who seems to have the raw goods to play at this level, but needs time to develop rather than being relief upon to produce. It's a shame the defensive side of his game is so lacking, though. 

It's hard to imagine this window being successful without acquiring JCH. At the moment we need him.

cabbles said:

If JCH comes here with the right attitude (I’m not questioning it by the way, more pointing out that this will be his last decent wage he can probably earn given his age, I hope he’s not just thinking, one last payday, not too fussed about achieving things on the football field etc), then it’s a good signing.  You can’t argue with his record at this level, and he’s a similar age to May, both can still contribute 

If he comes, I would expect to see Leaburn off in the summer, providing bids come in.  Can’t see our owners likely to have a front 4 of Leaburn, Aneke, JCH and May, and then depending on how we set up, one of May, JCH and Leaburn may not start regularly.  Aneke will be lucky to get any minutes, and is lucky we’ve been so tolerant, so the best he can hope for is the sub’s bench.

then begins the massive rebuild of pretty much everyone behind them all.  Be great if Dobson stays and has better around him.  A bonus if CBT stays as well.  After that; every position is up for grabs.

Fraser needs to go and I think he will.  McGrandles and Terry Taylor need to play a run of games and play well, particularly McGrandles as he would’ve done 2 years.  

I’ve seen enough of Hector to know he’s not the man to lead our defence, I’d like to see him go.  we don’t know about Jones yet, we’ll have a better idea at the end of the season, but he doesn’t shout “keep me”.  The two fullbacks haven’t impressed me, and AMB blows hot and cold.  

Let’s not get sentimental, but Tyreece Campbell, Ness, Chin, Henry aren’t ever going to make the grade at this level and if they want to build a career I think League 2 is the place to do it.  

We’re yet again, where we were this time last year and the year before it, needing major surgery 

Lloyd Jones and Tyreece Campbell are good enough to be in a promotion winning squad. TC is the most promising youngster we have and will get better.

We always look much more balanced with TC on the right rather than May.

Croydon said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

cabbles said:

If JCH comes here with the right attitude (I’m not questioning it by the way, more pointing out that this will be his last decent wage he can probably earn given his age, I hope he’s not just thinking, one last payday, not too fussed about achieving things on the football field etc), then it’s a good signing.  You can’t argue with his record at this level, and he’s a similar age to May, both can still contribute 

If he comes, I would expect to see Leaburn off in the summer, providing bids come in.  Can’t see our owners likely to have a front 4 of Leaburn, Aneke, JCH and May, and then depending on how we set up, one of May, JCH and Leaburn may not start regularly.  Aneke will be lucky to get any minutes, and is lucky we’ve been so tolerant, so the best he can hope for is the sub’s bench.

then begins the massive rebuild of pretty much everyone behind them all.  Be great if Dobson stays and has better around him.  A bonus if CBT stays as well.  After that; every position is up for grabs.

Fraser needs to go and I think he will.  McGrandles and Terry Taylor need to play a run of games and play well, particularly McGrandles as he would’ve done 2 years.  

I’ve seen enough of Hector to know he’s not the man to lead our defence, I’d like to see him go.  we don’t know about Jones yet, we’ll have a better idea at the end of the season, but he doesn’t shout “keep me”.  The two fullbacks haven’t impressed me, and AMB blows hot and cold.  

Let’s not get sentimental, but Tyreece Campbell, Ness, Chin, Henry aren’t ever going to make the grade at this level and if they want to build a career I think League 2 is the place to do it.  

We’re yet again, where we were this time last year and the year before it, needing major surgery 

Lloyd Jones and Tyreece Campbell are good enough to be in a promotion winning squad. TC is the most promising youngster we have and will get better.

We always look much more balanced with TC on the right rather than May.

Have to disagree about Campbell being good enough for a promotion squad. He might be one day, but he should be on loan at a league 2 club. No top 6 in lg1 would have him in their squad.

Some of TC's first touches in recent matches have been awful there have been several times where he has been able to control the ball from simple passes

Melrose said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

No. Please get rid of Appleton. He is useless and his post match assessments are nothing short of delusional/embarrassing.Every one knows we lack a bit in terms of players, but my god we are going backwards with him as manager. He should be doing better with the players at his disposal. Most of us don't need any more time to judge him. Guilty of impersonating a manager

Melrose, you probably have summed it up. Appleton was never wanted by the fans and I include myself in that number, I probably would have preferred Buckingham, based on the fact that I knew nothing about him, as for the Concord brothers and Fergusons little boy, please spare me. Back to the point, Appleton faces a huge, if not impossible, task to win fans over and to achieve anything near that, he would have to be in those play off spots and winning back to back games, even then fans would find something to dislike about him, it's currently his after match interviews. Quite simply, Appleton's appointment was by Scott and the board, Appleton's and Holden's lack of a squad, is down to Scott and the board, whoever is appointed, they cannot achieve anything without financial support from the board, where we are now is the boards responsibility, not Appleton's.

Bailey said:

Melrose said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

No. Please get rid of Appleton. He is useless and his post match assessments are nothing short of delusional/embarrassing.Every one knows we lack a bit in terms of players, but my god we are going backwards with him as manager. He should be doing better with the players at his disposal. Most of us don't need any more time to judge him. Guilty of impersonating a manager

Melrose, you probably have summed it up. Appleton was never wanted by the fans and I include myself in that number, I probably would have preferred Buckingham, based on the fact that I knew nothing about him, as for the Concord brothers and Fergusons little boy, please spare me. Back to the point, Appleton faces a huge, if not impossible, task to win fans over and to achieve anything near that, he would have to be in those play off spots and winning back to back games, even then fans would find something to dislike about him, it's currently his after match interviews. Quite simply, Appleton's appointment was by Scott and the board, Appleton's and Holden's lack of a squad, is down to Scott and the board, whoever is appointed, they cannot achieve anything without financial support from the board, where we are now is the boards responsibility, not Appleton's.

Ive got no love for Scott, but Buckingham was not an option for us. The only managers interested of any repute were Appleton and the Cowleys. That's why it's largely pointless sacking him until the end of the season.

No decent manager wanted to come in with the season off to a terrible start, and same for now when the season is over by January. 

DubaiCAFC said:

Fraser is going the club are offering him to others 

Getting someone to pay his wages will be the struggle. Expect he may go out on loan with us still paying a large chunk.

DubaiCAFC said:

Fraser is going the club are offering him to others 

I'm not sure there'll be many takers as he was poor at Ipswich and even worse for us.....

shirty5 said:

DONVANVLIET said:

Despite the howls of derision about the club's moves on the transfer front, they certainly cannot be accused of dragging their feet this time round. I've cannot recall so much activity so early in a January transfer window. Usually everything takes place at the eleventh hour on the final day. So I'm heartened to see this. More to come, I assume.

No different to 3 years ago when the club brought in 2 players by the 5th January

Ronnie Schwartz and
Liam Millar

Stockley, Jaiyesimi and Matt Smith (Arsenal) were to follow by the end of the window

How can that (Ronnie Schwartz) be 3 years ago,feels like only yesterday. Remember telling a good friend all about that player .

Bailey said:

Melrose said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

No. Please get rid of Appleton. He is useless and his post match assessments are nothing short of delusional/embarrassing.Every one knows we lack a bit in terms of players, but my god we are going backwards with him as manager. He should be doing better with the players at his disposal. Most of us don't need any more time to judge him. Guilty of impersonating a manager

Melrose, you probably have summed it up. Appleton was never wanted by the fans and I include myself in that number, I probably would have preferred Buckingham, based on the fact that I knew nothing about him, as for the Concord brothers and Fergusons little boy, please spare me. Back to the point, Appleton faces a huge, if not impossible, task to win fans over and to achieve anything near that, he would have to be in those play off spots and winning back to back games, even then fans would find something to dislike about him, it's currently his after match interviews. Quite simply, Appleton's appointment was by Scott and the board, Appleton's and Holden's lack of a squad, is down to Scott and the board, whoever is appointed, they cannot achieve anything without financial support from the board, where we are now is the boards responsibility, not Appleton's.

From "quite simply" you have nailed it.

If we finish bottom six hopefully the yanks will come over and out some of these clowns.

ElfsborgAddick said:

shirty5 said:

RonnieMoore said:

MarcusH26 said:

FishCostaFortune said:

MarcusH26 said:

https://twitter.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1743974422300512368?t=tBEmajgTTwzZmO6jkENw3g&s=19

Derby seem to be the main interest in CBT

‘Facing a fight’ seems weird terminology to me.

So far all quiet on the Dobson front…

I honestly expected Dobson rumours as soon as the Coventry/Docherty interest came out last week , am surprised there hasn't been anything yet 

Because he not interested in leaving which he as told his agent .. and confirmed by his dad 

Scott as of the 22nd December 

“We have offered two contracts to George and had little back from his agent,” said Scott. “It seems like he’s going to go into the January window and see what options are out there.

Not having that, I still believe Ronnie.

You believe in Santa Claus as well

shirty5 said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

shirty5 said:

RonnieMoore said:

MarcusH26 said:

FishCostaFortune said:

MarcusH26 said:

https://twitter.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1743974422300512368?t=tBEmajgTTwzZmO6jkENw3g&s=19

Derby seem to be the main interest in CBT

‘Facing a fight’ seems weird terminology to me.

So far all quiet on the Dobson front…

I honestly expected Dobson rumours as soon as the Coventry/Docherty interest came out last week , am surprised there hasn't been anything yet 

Because he not interested in leaving which he as told his agent .. and confirmed by his dad 

Scott as of the 22nd December 

“We have offered two contracts to George and had little back from his agent,” said Scott. “It seems like he’s going to go into the January window and see what options are out there.

Not having that, I still believe Ronnie.

You believe in Santa Claus as well

I put a pillow case out by the bed on the 24th December.