to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around:
Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.
Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.
One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window.
Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?
Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?
No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)
You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record?
I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is.
If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them
Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window
I generally share your anxiety about the current recruitment set up, but at the same time I don’t feel I can write off signings like the two we made yesterday without seeing them play regularly first.
I don’t think that’s being happy clappy.
In my view it is mate. I've not aimed it at anyone personally but I am of the view that if you lap up what these lot say, are still finding positives about how this team is playing and still finding excuses for this manager (which I have seen) then I can't understand you as a Charlton fan.
Will we even get to see him play much? That's the big question now
Well then your view is wrong friendo.
I'll be blunt, I couldn't give a bollocks about what a person who was announcing themselves in third person as the swordfish, on every post for about a month thinks about my personal opinions on football related matters
Would this City be sent as part of the OK to send Tedic back? Seems a strange move all round. But if we requested to send Tedic back would they be saying we need to take another instead?
well Haaland is injured - Tedic seems the natural replacement.
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around:
Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.
Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.
One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window.
Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?
Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?
No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)
You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record?
I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is.
If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them
Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window
I generally share your anxiety about the current recruitment set up, but at the same time I don’t feel I can write off signings like the two we made yesterday without seeing them play regularly first.
I don’t think that’s being happy clappy.
In my view it is mate, I've not aimed it at anyone personally but I am of the view that if you lap up what these lot say, are still finding positives about how this team is playing and still finding excuses for this manager (which I have seen) then I can't understand you as a Charlton fan.
Edit: to make it clear as well, that isn't a fig on those Charlton fans, as I have time for anyone that supports this club, I more mean I can't get on the same wave length as those particular fans as I am a lot less tolerant to us being this shit
Sorry, but that doesn’t have much relevance to my post.
All I said was ‘ I generally share your anxiety about the current recruitment set up, but at the same time I don’t feel I can write off signings like the two we made yesterday without seeing them play regularly first. I don’t think that’s being happy clappy.’
I certainly wasn’t ‘lapping up what this lot say’. I hope not anyway.
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
It is noticeable that there are fewer posts by some of our more established members; I suspect for this reason. What happened to reasoned debate? It just seems to be a litany of “you’re wrong” without any attempt to provide any alternative POV, followed by people posting similar one liners. Personally I think it’s verging on cyber bullying and I thought we were above that. I’ve seen @Braziliance at a few games, and I appreciate his views even though I’m not keen on his vlog….
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
Look, to be clear, I don't think that fans should be considered to be 'happy clappy' for wanting to see how players perform in a Charlton shirt before writing them off.
My post certainly wasn't intended to kick start a pile on, for which I can only apologize, and as the poster has made it clear that they don't value my opinion, which I get, I won't react to his posts in future.
Btw, I also don't believe there's a single fan that isn't hacked off with things at the moment. It's soul destroying just now.
to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around:
Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.
Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.
One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window.
Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?
Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?
No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)
You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record?
I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is.
If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them
Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window
I generally share your anxiety about the current recruitment set up, but at the same time I don’t feel I can write off signings like the two we made yesterday without seeing them play regularly first.
I don’t think that’s being happy clappy.
In my view it is mate, I've not aimed it at anyone personally but I am of the view that if you lap up what these lot say, are still finding positives about how this team is playing and still finding excuses for this manager (which I have seen) then I can't understand you as a Charlton fan.
Will we even get to see him play much? That's the big question now
So potentially we have Fiorini, then Taylor , McGrandles and Camara all that will need Easing back in after injuries ? Their will be more competition for the seats on the bench than the staring places
We'll be relegated by the time they are fit to play.
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
It is noticeable that there are fewer posts by some of our more established members; I suspect for this reason. What happened to reasoned debate? It just seems to be a litany of “you’re wrong” without any attempt to provide any alternative POV, followed by people posting similar one liners. Personally I think it’s verging on cyber bullying and I thought we were above that. I’ve seen @Braziliance at a few games, and I appreciate his views even though I’m not keen on his vlog….
Possibly fewer posts by certain members as they might be disheartened with the off field goings on?
to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around:
Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.
Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.
One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window.
Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?
Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?
No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)
You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record?
I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is.
If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them
Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window
I generally share your anxiety about the current recruitment set up, but at the same time I don’t feel I can write off signings like the two we made yesterday without seeing them play regularly first.
I don’t think that’s being happy clappy.
In my view it is mate, I've not aimed it at anyone personally but I am of the view that if you lap up what these lot say, are still finding positives about how this team is playing and still finding excuses for this manager (which I have seen) then I can't understand you as a Charlton fan.
Edit: to make it clear as well, that isn't a fig on those Charlton fans, as I have time for anyone that supports this club, I more mean I can't get on the same wave length as those particular fans as I am a lot less tolerant to us being this shit
Will we even get to see him play much? That's the big question now
As I said last night, he could be the best thing since sliced bread but he wont be playing 90 mins week in week out......which is what we need & what Andy Scott said we would be signing.
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
I honestly expected Dobson rumours as soon as the Coventry/Docherty interest came out last week , am surprised there hasn't been anything yet
Because he not interested in leaving which he as told his agent .. and confirmed by his dad
Scott as of the 22nd December
“We have offered two contracts to George and had little back from his agent,” said Scott. “It seems like he’s going to go into the January window and see what options are out there.
Not having that, I still believe Ronnie.
You believe in Santa Claus as well
I put a pillow case out by the bed on the 24th December.
What Santa gave you a day off? You normally work day and night flat out until Boxing Day! He must be getting soft in his old age 😉.
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
It is noticeable that there are fewer posts by some of our more established members; I suspect for this reason. What happened to reasoned debate? It just seems to be a litany of “you’re wrong” without any attempt to provide any alternative POV, followed by people posting similar one liners. Personally I think it’s verging on cyber bullying and I thought we were above that. I’ve seen @Braziliance at a few games, and I appreciate his views even though I’m not keen on his vlog….
Possibly fewer posts by certain members as they might be disheartened with the off field goings on?
Maybe. But with the direction we are heading, is apathy helping? We need to acknowledge the positives but as they are far and few between we also should recognise those that see the worst case rather than just dismiss them as irrelevant. For context, I was looking back at videos from some of the anti-Roland marches and it looked like there were more people in Floyd Rd then than we get now at home games - we need to remain critical and analytical; we are a much smaller fanbase than even 5-6 years ago. Why push people away fans when the on/off field activities are doing such a good job on their own?
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around:
Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.
Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.
One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window.
Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?
Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?
No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)
You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record?
I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is.
If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them
Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window
I generally share your anxiety about the current recruitment set up, but at the same time I don’t feel I can write off signings like the two we made yesterday without seeing them play regularly first.
I don’t think that’s being happy clappy.
In my view it is mate, I've not aimed it at anyone personally but I am of the view that if you lap up what these lot say, are still finding positives about how this team is playing and still finding excuses for this manager (which I have seen) then I can't understand you as a Charlton fan.
Edit: to make it clear as well, that isn't a fig on those Charlton fans, as I have time for anyone that supports this club, I more mean I can't get on the same wave length as those particular fans as I am a lot less tolerant to us being this shit
Will we even get to see him play much? That's the big question now
As I said last night, he could be the best thing since sliced bread but he wont be playing 90 mins week in week out......which is what we need & what Andy Scott said we would be signing.
Just same old same old.
Pep has just said he will need to manage de Bruyne mins going forward .. it’s something managers say … people take every word to seriously
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Not keen on the pile on, personally.
Nothing against you personally btw 👍
What happened to reasoned debate? It just seems to be a litany of “you’re wrong” without any attempt to provide any alternative POV, followed by people posting similar one liners.
Personally I think it’s verging on cyber bullying and I thought we were above that.
I’ve seen @Braziliance at a few games, and I appreciate his views even though I’m not keen on his vlog….
My post certainly wasn't intended to kick start a pile on, for which I can only apologize, and as the poster has made it clear that they don't value my opinion, which I get, I won't react to his posts in future.
Btw, I also don't believe there's a single fan that isn't hacked off with things at the moment. It's soul destroying just now.
Just same old same old.
Where was that stated in the summer ??
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
For context, I was looking back at videos from some of the anti-Roland marches and it looked like there were more people in Floyd Rd then than we get now at home games - we need to remain critical and analytical; we are a much smaller fanbase than even 5-6 years ago.
Why push people away fans when the on/off field activities are doing such a good job on their own?
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.