Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice
Offered it to Powell (interim) Approached Darren Ferguson Approached David Challinor
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice
Offered it to Powell (interim) Approached Darren Ferguson Approached David Challinor
Whilst Signing JCH is potentially an excellent bit of business, all the while we have the Poundland Vin Diesel as our manager it won’t make a jot of difference
We’ve literally had people saying go and spend the money and sign JCH all season and now we’ve offered the money and there is a possibility he’s coming, it’s a pointless signing of a player who’s over the hill and out to do us. We are a very broken set of fans.
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice
Offered it to Powell (interim) Approached Darren Ferguson Approached David Challinor
Were Ferguson and Challinor offered the job or an interview?
We’ve literally had people saying go and spend the money and sign JCH all season and now we’ve offered the money and there is a possibility he’s coming, it’s a pointless signing of a player who’s over the hill and out to do us. We are a very broken set of fans.
Have you considered it’s different people saying different things?
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
We will have to disagree on that, no team can do without three first choice strikers, he's also not responsible for the weakness in the midfield as all the players were here before he joined the club. I am not declaring him to be a great or even good manager but I don't see how you can judge him within the current situation that prevails at the club.
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
No. Please get rid of Appleton. He is useless and his post match assessments are nothing short of delusional/embarrassing.Every one knows we lack a bit in terms of players, but my god we are going backwards with him as manager. He should be doing better with the players at his disposal. Most of us don't need any more time to judge him. Guilty of impersonating a manager
Plus the ball needs to stick up front, Taylor (spit) was so good at winning free kicks or holding onto the ball, this season it seems to come straight back in.
JCH will really help with that. Chuks is a great outlet too, something Miles is still comparatively weak at.
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice
Offered it to Powell (interim) Approached Darren Ferguson Approached David Challinor
Were Ferguson and Challinor offered the job or an interview?
Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now
Signing a player that improves us is never pointless.
Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.
Have to disagree. A huge reason we’re not keeping clean sheets is our complete inability to hold the ball upfront and alleviate pressure. While our whole team needs work. JCH can definitely improve this.
We’ve literally had people saying go and spend the money and sign JCH all season and now we’ve offered the money and there is a possibility he’s coming, it’s a pointless signing of a player who’s over the hill and out to do us. We are a very broken set of fans.
Have you considered it’s different people saying different things?
Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now
Signing a player that improves us is never pointless.
Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.
Have to disagree. A huge reason we’re not keeping clean sheets is our complete inability to hold the ball upfront and alleviate pressure. While our whole team needs work. JCH can definitely improve this.
The only thing I’ve learnt about football since post Covid is that whenever Charlton don’t have a proper centre forward we have struggled big time. Jackson bad run was purely because Stockley was injured. Playing Bonne last season, Aneke/Leaburn this season.
You only had to watch last 30 mins v Oxford to see how hard football is when the ball doesn’t stick up front and it becomes a game of attack v defence.
Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now
Signing a player that improves us is never pointless.
Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.
Have to disagree. A huge reason we’re not keeping clean sheets is our complete inability to hold the ball upfront and alleviate pressure. While our whole team needs work. JCH can definitely improve this.
The only thing I’ve learnt about football since post Covid is that whenever Charlton don’t have a proper centre forward we have struggled big time. Jackson bad run was purely because Stockley was injured. Playing Bonne last season, Aneke/Leaburn this season.
You only had to watch last 30 mins v Oxford to see how hard football is when the ball doesn’t stick up front and it becomes a game of attack v defence.
We’ve literally had people saying go and spend the money and sign JCH all season and now we’ve offered the money and there is a possibility he’s coming, it’s a pointless signing of a player who’s over the hill and out to do us. We are a very broken set of fans.
I know this is aimed at my comment, just saying it’s as hard to be excited about JCH given our current situation
Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now
Signing a player that improves us is never pointless.
Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.
We defend as a team. First principle.
Only having only one decent cb 2 full backs who struggle on the back foot and an indecisive gk who doesn't take control of his area really doesn't help either though does it?
Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.
Wise words mate, Wise words.
Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment
Data Analyst…..
Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post.
But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand. It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL. We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue.
Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round. I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️
Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.
The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice.
Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice
Offered it to Powell (interim) Approached Darren Ferguson Approached David Challinor
Were Ferguson and Challinor offered the job or an interview?
Both were approached before Appleton.
With a job offer or an opportunity to interview? Big difference between being the first to be offered the job and being on a list alongside other managers we offered an interview to.
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Approached Darren Ferguson
Approached David Challinor
possibly the 4th choice!
Really hope we get him, but can't understand why anyone would choose us over Wrexham currently.