JHC has been offered 10k a week, apparently he is keen, but agent holding out for more.
Coventry both us and Shef Wed have put good offers on the on the table, apparently we have offered more.
How can we afford that if we were struggling for FFP due to wages in the summer? hmm?
Were we ??
Where was that stated in the summer ??
Methvan said it.
He said he'd had to go back to the EFL to explain that the owners would put money in as equity to stay within the rules.
I suspect that the summer budget was calculated on moving on players like McGrandles, Kirk and perhaps Aneke plus that budget being unrealistically low in the first place because they sold the deal to the investors on reducing the budget by £2m.
But what I heard from inside the club is that money will be spent this window and while I remain sceptical that appears to be borne out by paying of Kirk and paying £450k plus wages to Johnson Clive Harris.
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
Yep, that was how I interpreted his comments that night.
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
The point he made was that no longer will we sign young players or players that are just using us to get fit .. only loans that will advantage us going forward like the two we have brought in both with options of signing permanently …if they prove themselves it’s a win win
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
The point he made was that no longer will we sign young players or players that are just using us to get fit .. only loans that will advantage us going forward like the two we have brought in both with options of signing permanently …if they prove themselves it’s a win win
Hate to break this to you Colin but you weren't there and even if you had been you wouldn't have understood what was said
CBT is out of contract in the summer isn’t he? Would be silly not to cash in and sell him in a dead season. Dobson too really, but can’t see that one happening.
Either way, they won’t be here next season and neither will Leaburn.
JHC has been offered 10k a week, apparently he is keen, but agent holding out for more.
Coventry both us and Shef Wed have put good offers on the on the table, apparently we have offered more.
How can we afford that if we were struggling for FFP due to wages in the summer? hmm?
Were we ??
Where was that stated in the summer ??
Methvan said it.
He said he'd had to go back to the EFL to explain that the owners would put money in as equity to stay within the rules.
I suspect that the summer budget was calculated on moving on players like McGrandles, Kirk and perhaps Aneke plus that budget being unrealistically low in the first place because they sold the deal to the investors on reducing the budget by £2m.
But what I heard from inside the club is that money will be spent this window and while I remain sceptical that appears to be borne out by paying of Kirk and paying £450k plus wages to Johnson Clive Harris.
Clive’s good at what he does but 450k seems a bit steep especially considering his age
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
The point he made was that no longer will we sign young players or players that are just using us to get fit .. only loans that will advantage us going forward like the two we have brought in both with options of signing permanently …if they prove themselves it’s a win win
The only ‘option’ is with Bakinson and that’s because he’s out of contract in the summer so in effect every team in the PL and EFL have an ‘option’ on him.
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
The point he made was that no longer will we sign young players or players that are just using us to get fit .. only loans that will advantage us going forward like the two we have brought in both with options of signing permanently …if they prove themselves it’s a win win
Hate to break this to you Colin but you weren't there and even if you had been you wouldn't have understood what was said
I wanted to both lol and like this but as I’m still chuckling you got the lol Henners 😉, Oh and does Clive H know he’s won the lottery 😁.
How does anyone outside management and players know what each player is being paid. Excuse my ignorance but I would think most of the comments are guesses. Someone enlighten me please
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
Just checking, did he really say that he didn’t want players who wanted to play for Charlton, or did he only want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
There was a rumour that we was paying Tedic £11k a week, football manager also suggests this (could be bollocks)
So paying JCH this instead will be a slight upgrade…
I expect the rumour probably came from football manager.
Yeah I honestly wouldn’t believe the wage structure from Football Manager. I’m a researcher for them and it’s pure guesswork. Tedic is apparently on 15,000 at city and it was put down that we’re paying around 70/80% of that, which I find hard to believe
Tedic could probably be on £11k at City but I doubt we were paying that much of it.
His city contract is 15k a week and we were paying the majority so 11k is probably about right. Shocking when you consider how shit he was.
Wow that's absolutely shocking. I'm staggered we were paying the majority of his wages given his production. Now potentially paying JCH 10k a week makes a bit more sense in terms of wages available.
CBT is out of contract in the summer isn’t he? Would be silly not to cash in and sell him in a dead season. Dobson too really, but can’t see that one happening.
Either way, they won’t be here next season and neither will Leaburn.
It’s not a dead season.
We sell one of our best players and go down? No thanks.
Can anyone point to me where Andy Scott said every January signing we make will be a permanent that will be able to go into the squad straight away.
To be honest going on their previous record for loans, I don’t trust either of these to be any good - but I can certainly see Fiorini (if he is) being part of planning for next season which we would be naive not to be doing.
He said at Bromley Addicks meeting he wanted to sign permanent players and wanted ones that didn't see Charlton as the limit of their career but ones that thought they were better but he persuaded to join us and go on our journey... Or words to that effect. The words I think he actually used were he didn't want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
Just checking, did he really say that he didn’t want players who wanted to play for Charlton, or did he only want players who wanted to play for Charlton.
He said he didn't want to sign players who wanted to play for Charlton.
The inference was that he wanted to get players who felt they were already too good for us but persuade them to join and go on a journey, rather than maybe get players who desperately wanted to play for Charlton because they had no other better offers.
It was a very clumsy way of putting it I thought at the time, especially when you considered that we had not long before signed Alfie May who seemed the very definition of someone desperate to sign for Charlton who probably didn't have any/many bigger (ie Championship) offers but was clearly our best signing of the summer.
I don’t know @Braziliance but the guy clearly loves Charlton, is at every game supporting the team and is obviously totally hacked off like the majority of us. Not keen on the pile on, personally.
Appreciate the comment.
Truth be told though I give as good as I get at times (see dig at Swordfish) but it's usually when I've noticed a few posts aimed towards me I chuck a bit back. Generally speaking I don't post to wind people up deliberately or troll, I simply just type how I think and it probably comes across wrong at times as body language and tone of voice are key and I have been told I'm opinionated (but what do those people calling me that know eh 😉)
I assume Lancashire Lads consistent posting towards me has stemmed from me banging on about whoscoreds player stats a fair bit and him being dedicated to stat tracking himself. I have credited Lancashire before on his threads but it is what it is at this point.
There is a gang up culture on this forum at times and subtle digs etc, I've even warned people who have asked me about signing up on here about it. Pretty bizarre when you consider we are a pretty niche club in the grand scheme.
To be compared to RonnieMoore is mental as I am not posting any outrageous claims and truth be told I hate how he gets treated regardless as he's pretty harmless. To have now had a few posters now also claim I don't know what it's like to support Charlton, want them to lose for the sake of my videos or words along those lines is also just absolutely mental. I couldn't think of a worse practical joke than using these forums for 10 years, attending games unless work forbids it and then converting 3 of my cousins to Charlton fans all for a wind up 😂
Anyway appreciate you sticking your neck out for me. Apologies for the clutters again
I could be wrong but I believe that Dobson and CBT's contract situation hinges on the progress that Charlton make. By that I mean, bringing players in to give this club every chance of promotion from this division. They both have a good career ahead of them but another year in this division and their time might be gone. I think that if they see some positive moves then there is chance they will stay, if not, then I wouldn't blame them at all for exercising their option to leave.
CBT is out of contract in the summer isn’t he? Would be silly not to cash in and sell him in a dead season. Dobson too really, but can’t see that one happening.
Either way, they won’t be here next season and neither will Leaburn.
It’s not a dead season.
We sell one of our best players and go down? No thanks.
Good point. I forgot about the excitement of the imminent relegation battle.
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He said he'd had to go back to the EFL to explain that the owners would put money in as equity to stay within the rules.
I suspect that the summer budget was calculated on moving on players like McGrandles, Kirk and perhaps Aneke plus that budget being unrealistically low in the first place because they sold the deal to the investors on reducing the budget by £2m.
But what I heard from inside the club is that money will be spent this window and while I remain sceptical that appears to be borne out by paying of Kirk and paying £450k plus wages to Johnson Clive Harris.
So paying JCH this instead will be a slight upgrade…
Wow that's absolutely shocking. I'm staggered we were paying the majority of his wages given his production. Now potentially paying JCH 10k a week makes a bit more sense in terms of wages available.
We sell one of our best players and go down? No thanks.
He said he didn't want to sign players who wanted to play for Charlton.
The inference was that he wanted to get players who felt they were already too good for us but persuade them to join and go on a journey, rather than maybe get players who desperately wanted to play for Charlton because they had no other better offers.
It was a very clumsy way of putting it I thought at the time, especially when you considered that we had not long before signed Alfie May who seemed the very definition of someone desperate to sign for Charlton who probably didn't have any/many bigger (ie Championship) offers but was clearly our best signing of the summer.
Nearer £2k a week feels more about right.
Truth be told though I give as good as I get at times (see dig at Swordfish) but it's usually when I've noticed a few posts aimed towards me I chuck a bit back. Generally speaking I don't post to wind people up deliberately or troll, I simply just type how I think and it probably comes across wrong at times as body language and tone of voice are key and I have been told I'm opinionated (but what do those people calling me that know eh 😉)
I assume Lancashire Lads consistent posting towards me has stemmed from me banging on about whoscoreds player stats a fair bit and him being dedicated to stat tracking himself. I have credited Lancashire before on his threads but it is what it is at this point.
There is a gang up culture on this forum at times and subtle digs etc, I've even warned people who have asked me about signing up on here about it. Pretty bizarre when you consider we are a pretty niche club in the grand scheme.
To be compared to RonnieMoore is mental as I am not posting any outrageous claims and truth be told I hate how he gets treated regardless as he's pretty harmless. To have now had a few posters now also claim I don't know what it's like to support Charlton, want them to lose for the sake of my videos or words along those lines is also just absolutely mental. I couldn't think of a worse practical joke than using these forums for 10 years, attending games unless work forbids it and then converting 3 of my cousins to Charlton fans all for a wind up 😂
Anyway appreciate you sticking your neck out for me. Apologies for the clutters again
We have signed JCH
We have the 2x loanees
We have signed Bate and Poveda from Leeds
CBT and Dobson have signed extensions.
Would make it a much easier call.
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