January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

Addick_8 said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Addick_8 said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice. 

Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice

Offered it to Powell (interim) 
Approached Darren Ferguson
Approached David Challinor

I remember now. Don't forget des Buckingham.

possibly the 4th choice!

Scoham said:

https://twitter.com/darrenowitcoop/status/1743646222005436826?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

Really hope we get him, but can't understand why anyone would choose us over Wrexham currently. 

Addick_8 said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Addick_8 said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice. 

Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice

Offered it to Powell (interim) 
Approached Darren Ferguson
Approached David Challinor

Were Ferguson and Challinor offered the job or an interview?

RC_CAFC said:

We’ve literally had people saying go and spend the money and sign JCH all season and now we’ve offered the money and there is a possibility he’s coming, it’s a pointless signing of a player who’s over the hill and out to do us. We are a very broken set of fans.

Have you considered it’s different people saying different things? 

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

No. Please get rid of Appleton. He is useless and his post match assessments are nothing short of delusional/embarrassing.Every one knows we lack a bit in terms of players, but my god we are going backwards with him as manager. He should be doing better with the players at his disposal. Most of us don't need any more time to judge him. Guilty of impersonating a manager

Scoham said:

Addick_8 said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Addick_8 said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice. 

Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice

Offered it to Powell (interim) 
Approached Darren Ferguson
Approached David Challinor

Were Ferguson and Challinor offered the job or an interview?

Both were approached before Appleton.

jondon76 said:

JamesSeed said:

PWADDICK said:

Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now

Signing a player that improves us is never pointless. 

Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.

Have to disagree. A huge reason we’re not keeping clean sheets is our complete inability to hold the ball upfront and alleviate pressure. While our whole team needs work. JCH can definitely improve this.

RC_CAFC said:

jondon76 said:

JamesSeed said:

PWADDICK said:

Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now

Signing a player that improves us is never pointless. 

Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.

Have to disagree. A huge reason we’re not keeping clean sheets is our complete inability to hold the ball upfront and alleviate pressure. While our whole team needs work. JCH can definitely improve this.

The only thing I’ve learnt about football since post Covid is that whenever Charlton don’t have a proper centre forward we have struggled big time. Jackson bad run was purely because Stockley was injured. Playing Bonne last season, Aneke/Leaburn this season. 

SouthWest_Addicks said:

RC_CAFC said:

jondon76 said:

JamesSeed said:

PWADDICK said:

Signing JCH feels like when we signed Fraser, exciting signing but feels pretty pointless in the here & now

Signing a player that improves us is never pointless. 

Need defenders and a goalkeeper more urgently imo. JCH won't improve the team without these.

Have to disagree. A huge reason we’re not keeping clean sheets is our complete inability to hold the ball upfront and alleviate pressure. While our whole team needs work. JCH can definitely improve this.

The only thing I’ve learnt about football since post Covid is that whenever Charlton don’t have a proper centre forward we have struggled big time. Jackson bad run was purely because Stockley was injured. Playing Bonne last season, Aneke/Leaburn this season. 

You only had to watch last 30 mins v Oxford to see how hard football is when the ball doesn’t stick up front and it becomes a game of attack v defence.

100% correct 

RC_CAFC said:

We’ve literally had people saying go and spend the money and sign JCH all season and now we’ve offered the money and there is a possibility he’s coming, it’s a pointless signing of a player who’s over the hill and out to do us. We are a very broken set of fans.

I know this is aimed at my comment, just saying it’s as hard to be excited about JCH given our current situation 

The Red Robin said:

Scoham said:

Addick_8 said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Addick_8 said:

Bailey said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Bailey said:

RonnieMoore said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

Seeing as its been confirmed that Tedic has gone back, and we believe that Abankwa has too, and then added into the mix that both Watson & Campbell have hardly been played by Appleton, can it be justified to say that Andy Scott's loan deals have a lot to be desired.

Wise words mate, Wise words.

Scott only acting on the manager’s and recruitment 

Data Analyst….. 

Andy Scott is technical director Ronnie, he is responsible for the recruitment of players to the club, and those who depart. Whatever resources or advice he takes or uses, he is ultimately responsible. You will find that is how it works and he is answerable to the board whilst holding that post. 

But some people will still hold Appleton/managers, ‘entirely’ responsible for crap performances……it just doesn’t add up that the manager gets so much abuse from fans when they’ve been dealt such a shyte hand.
It’s something fans have done very unjustly(IMHO), for years…….especially here on CL.
We have gone through dozens of managers who were never given the opportunity to succeed and until we have a board of directors who are prepared to put their hands in their pockets in a realistic fashion, this never ceasing scenario will continue. 

Only time will tell if they can be reasoned with and persuaded to see sense this time round.
I have thought this for many a year, just like those of us who can clearly see the woods for the trees. ☹️

Well which job would anyone choose on here, Appleton's or Scott's ? . Facts are last three managers were promised a squad that could challenge, all three were let down. Many years ago, it was the managers responsibility to sign players, that's no longer the case, Appleton can only work with what he's got, that squad today was bare bones, some fans were claiming that Appleton had finally seen sense and brought Louie Watson back, truth is he didn't have choice. Give him a squad and then judge him.  

The players he has he available to him are better then 1 win in 10 and that’s a fact. He will never take us up. There was a reason he was 3rd choice. 

Who were the choices ahead of him? I always thought he was first choice

Offered it to Powell (interim) 
Approached Darren Ferguson
Approached David Challinor

Were Ferguson and Challinor offered the job or an interview?

Both were approached before Appleton.

With a job offer or an opportunity to interview? Big difference between being the first to be offered the job and being on a list alongside other managers we offered an interview to.

FishCostaFortune said:

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

FishCostaFortune said:

Braziliance said:

to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around: 

https://twitter.com/officialcufc/status/1742896707061289154?t=GtUU3G4J2u5zumP-aqftsA&s=19

Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.

Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.

One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window. 

Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?

Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?

No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)

You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record? 

I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is. 

If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them

Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window 

So have we? Have you seen our midfield for the last month? 

Well quiet. 

Luke Armstrong, who would walk into our team, has only managed 90 minutes 5 times this season.

You have to at least be consistent in the arguments you are trying to make. 

Saying a team, you know little about, are an example of owners who care and have a plan - because they signed 3 players you know little about on the 4th January - is not a good argument in my opinion and is clearly just a poorly thought out angle to fit your current view point.

Luke Armstrong would walk into that team today and probably Port Vales as well, if they had him we would have been bang in trouble as they missed an aerial threat. 

The main reason Armstrong wasn't playing for Harrogate, is probably similar to JCH in they knew he was going to leave and was trying to keep him injury free/plan without him. Can assure you Armstrong is one of the better forwards in League 2 and why he had money bags Wrexham pursuing him. Could be a coup for Carlisle as he could help them in their relegation fight or they go down and have a ready made top league 2 striker. 

Consistent in what way? This isn't an argument, I think our owners are full of it mostly and I speak openly about it. Unless you want an argument? 

Apologies genuinely not following there as I don't actually challenge posters on here really, just call the players, owners and manager shit every other day and posters like to hop on the posts. There's no arguing from me cause I can't be convinced about these owners until I see us progress as a club.

Anyway JCH is a cracking signing if it happens, those are the signings I expect based on their words 

Braziliance said:

FishCostaFortune said:

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

FishCostaFortune said:

Braziliance said:

to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around: 

https://twitter.com/officialcufc/status/1742896707061289154?t=GtUU3G4J2u5zumP-aqftsA&s=19

Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, its a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.

Braziliance yesterday you claimed that Carlisle owners are an example of those that ‘give a shit and have ‘clearly been planning for the window opening’ based on them making 3 signings on the 4th.

One day later we have now made 2 signings, which is actually 20% of all activity in league one so far this window. 

Would you now say that our owners ‘give a shit’ and have ‘clearly been planning for the window’?

Or would you say that your comment was not well thought out, and that your current mistrust of the ownership led you to make a baseless assumption?

No. For starters, it's relevant to each clubs situation. They've signed players that will probably improve them, I can tell you right now that Armstrong would walk into our side at present and I really mean walk. So for context, a side sitting in 24th has signed a player that that's better than anything we will stick up top today (assuming May is injured)

You want me to get the party poppers out over a pair of low risk loans with no real track record? 

I'm just not a happy clapper, I will credit this mob when they show some ambition, until we sign a proper player for money like JCH I'll call it how it is. 

If people are happy with these tosh signings more power to them

Edit; planning for the window, are you purposely trying to wind me up with this post? 😂 They're 6 month loans where neither are guaranteed to be here next season. It's the complete opposite of a planning for next season and all the talk of experience and quality is already out of the window 

So have we? Have you seen our midfield for the last month? 

Well quiet. 

Luke Armstrong, who would walk into our team, has only managed 90 minutes 5 times this season.

You have to at least be consistent in the arguments you are trying to make. 

Saying a team, you know little about, are an example of owners who care and have a plan - because they signed 3 players you know little about on the 4th January - is not a good argument in my opinion and is clearly just a poorly thought out angle to fit your current view point.

Luke Armstrong would walk into that team today and probably Port Vales as well, if they had him we would have been bang in trouble as they missed an aerial threat. 

The main reason Armstrong wasn't playing for Harrogate, is probably similar to JCH in they knew he was going to leave and was trying to keep him injury free/plan without him. Can assure you Armstrong is one of the better forwards in League 2 and why he had money bags Wrexham pursuing him. Could be a coup for Carlisle as he could help them in their relegation fight or they go down and have a ready made top league 2 striker. 

Consistent in what way? This isn't an argument, I think our owners are full of it mostly and I speak openly about it. Unless you want an argument? 

Apologies genuinely not following there as I don't actually challenge posters on here really, just call the players, owners and manager shit every other day and posters like to hop on the posts. There's no arguing from me cause I can't be convinced about these owners until I see us progress as a club.

Anyway JCH is a cracking signing if it happens, those are the signings I expect based on their words 

Why the Luke Armstrong love?

the guy has had two good years in the football league. Good years, not even very good years.

kanu has as many career league 1 goals and is 8 years younger. 

If may, leaburn and aneke were all available, I doubt he would even get on our bench