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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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Because the players that we are trying to send out nobody wants, in these cases we arent sending out youngsters to get them experience and game time, these are players that we cant sell because we have basically devalued their value so much since we bought them e.g Kirk. They are on decent wages and the only clubs likely to want them cant afford the wages so the choice is leave them here doing nothing or send them out somewhere and keep paying their wagesManic_mania said:
Why is it when we are going for someone on loan we all hear "well loans aren't free - got to pay wages" etc etc but when we send someone out on loan all of a sudden it's "well we will be covering most of their wages" so when we get a loan we pay full whack but when we send someone out we get minimal benefit financially?AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few years
Not saying people are wrong but I just don't get it? Is this based on anything factual or just people being negative?2 -
I'm wary believing anything coming out of this club in terms of who does what... What would they tell us if we asked what Raelynn has been doing for the past few years!Pavoren007 said:
Gallen seals the deals, does not tee up who we are getting. A black box and Football Manager enthusiast is responsible for that bit as far as I understand it. I would be bored sh*tless with Steve’s current responsibilities and hope he gets a break elsewhere, a good guy and under-utilised by us since ‘those that think they know better’ arrived.AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few years
That doesn't even add up with Gallen because I heard him in an interview say he went to watch Lavelle a few times prior to us signing him.
We also know that the black box produces players that are then discussed by the committee, of which he is on. So he definitely has a role to play other than making phone calls.2 -
I came out of the game yesterday thinking that Dobson and Fraser are good players and fine for a promotion chasing team but don't offer midfield height. We are then bringing Payne and Henry on off the bench. Bolton's players were simply far superior athletes. We need a big box to box type who will stop teams bullying us. Jon Russell certainly has the size to be that player.3
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For me after yesterdays result this season in done. Whatever chance we had of playoffs I think is finished after the loss yesterday. Not being overly negative but just how I see it. Getting loans in for the rest of the seasons seems pointless, as it is money being used to achieve nothing. I worry leaburn will go and that’s why he didn’t start yesterday . I think a couple more might follow out the door just to try and minimise loses this season. We are still paying Adkins off and now also Garner. With nothing to play for the remaining games I think the magic break even will be targeted and yet again another re think in the summer by Thomas or whoever else is funding.2
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If we had money I’d be seeing if we could get Bauer back. Currently not playing at PNE16
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Agree. We’re the only club I know that have their lead scouts at every Charlton game instead of them actually doing some scouting at other grounds.AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few yearsOur biggest issue in my opinion is not the money made available for transfers and salaries (that was good up till this season) but the absolute crap the recruitment team have squandered it on.
We’ve spent far more than the likes of Bolton, Plymouth & Barnsley in recent years but bought utter tosh with it.
Be interesting to see if Andy Scott stays around as our recruitment department definitely needs a shake up.3 -
DJ - £500k
Kirk - £500k
Lavelle - £200k
Aneke - £300k
Gallen’s done well to keep his job after squandering £1.5m (big money for our level) on that bunch.Based on Penny’s debut yesterday I’m not optimistic that things are going to improve soon.4 -
Seems to be working with his hands tied right now.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
Agree. We’re the only club I know that have their lead scouts at every Charlton game instead of them actually doing some scouting at other grounds.AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few yearsOur biggest issue in my opinion is not the money made available for transfers and salaries (that was good up till this season) but the absolute crap the recruitment team have squandered it on.
We’ve spent far more than the likes of Bolton, Plymouth & Barnsley in recent years but bought utter tosh with it.
Be interesting to see if Andy Scott stays around as our recruitment department definitely needs a shake up.
Not really sure that any of the signings we've made, or the players we've let go really needed his involvement.2 -
Tbf when you look at that list TS must be thinking he has had his pants down. And before anyone says its MS and his stupid black box apparently we had been chasing kirk and DJ before TS came along. The re signing of Chucks on it's own was a disciplinary matter in itself 😂😂😂 who on here didnt say exactly what would happen ? It isnt rocket science is it. The reason Chucks never starts is that he would pull a hammy taking the knee before KOOh Eddie Youds... said:DJ - £500k
Kirk - £500k
Lavelle - £200k
Aneke - £300k
Gallen’s done well to keep his job after squandering £1.5m (big money for our level) on that bunch.Based on Penny’s debut yesterday I’m not optimistic that things are going to improve soon.1 -
Would take him back in a heartbeat, he still absolutely loves Charlton too. Sadly he is on nearly double anyone in our squad.Red_Chester said:If we had money I’d be seeing if we could get Bauer back. Currently not playing at PNE7 - Sponsored links:
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Waits for comment about obsession over ex-playersRed_Chester said:If we had money I’d be seeing if we could get Bauer back. Currently not playing at PNE
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I still somewhat have an inside track on PNE, rumours that they have financial issues and are looking to offload to balance the books somewhat. BFG would need to accept a big wage drop though.0
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SG deals with all transfers mainly with the agents and clubs and getting the deal completed once we identify our targets .. the manager identifies his targets along with Andy Scott they then do the homework on the players which is where MS was involvedPavoren007 said:
Gallen seals the deals, does not tee up who we are getting. A black box and Football Manager enthusiast is responsible for that bit as far as I understand it. I would be bored sh*tless with Steve’s current responsibilities and hope he gets a break elsewhere, a good guy and under-utilised by us since ‘those that think they know better’ arrived.AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few years0 -
nothing wrong with Penney yesterday defended well and attacked well .. not helped with an early hospital ball from Ness , not easy with Bolton outnumbering us across midfield which put pressure on the full backsOh Eddie Youds... said:DJ - £500k
Kirk - £500k
Lavelle - £200k
Aneke - £300k
Gallen’s done well to keep his job after squandering £1.5m (big money for our level) on that bunch.Based on Penny’s debut yesterday I’m not optimistic that things are going to improve soon.
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I know nothing about Jon Russell, but going by this picture, I want him in the side. He has a I’m not going to get bullied off the ball look about him.
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No kidding.🫢RonnieMoore said:
Aneke undergoing training program to get him fitOh Eddie Youds... said:
Plus no Stockley, Lavelle, Aneke, Thomas.Fortune 82nd Minute said:No Jaiyesimi or Kirk in the 18 today.
Surely we can offload these two, even if only on loan until the end of the season, before the transfer window shuts.A lot of big earners not in the squad today.Gallen has a lot to do over the next few days to make up for the crap recruitment over the last 2 seasons.4 -
more like we massively overpaid for what we were actually gettingAndyG said:
Because the players that we are trying to send out nobody wants, in these cases we arent sending out youngsters to get them experience and game time, these are players that we cant sell because we have basically devalued their value so much since we bought them e.g Kirk. They are on decent wages and the only clubs likely to want them cant afford the wages so the choice is leave them here doing nothing or send them out somewhere and keep paying their wagesManic_mania said:
Why is it when we are going for someone on loan we all hear "well loans aren't free - got to pay wages" etc etc but when we send someone out on loan all of a sudden it's "well we will be covering most of their wages" so when we get a loan we pay full whack but when we send someone out we get minimal benefit financially?AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few years
Not saying people are wrong but I just don't get it? Is this based on anything factual or just people being negative?
a glass half full view might be that we gambled on Kirk, McGrandles, DJ stepping up and improving but those gambles all lost
There is no excuse or justification for the A&Eke fiasco
The reality is that Kirk never could be arsed, McGrandles is conference at best and DJ was eclipsed by the much cheaper CBT
We've fobbed off the total chump and should be taking any offers for the other 3
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I am hoping that the likes of Kane, Penney and Russell are effectively auditioning for a role next season. I would hope that they will not cost a fee.It concerns me slightly that their clubs have 'options' on them. Could for example a relegated Huddersfield make use of Russell especially if he has a positive end to the season with us.
JRS will almost certainly not be with us next season, so a genuinely left footed player is needed because we will miss him badly. Maybe his replacement could genuinely cover left back as well in the way back in the day that Paul Mortimer did.1 -
Yeah. The bleached hair, right?Stewart said:I know nothing about Jon Russell, but going by this picture, I want him in the side. He has a I’m not going to get bullied off the ball look about him.1 - Sponsored links:
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JRS staying according to Cawley.30
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Nah, that's natural, just looks young for his age...🙄KiwiValley said:
Yeah. The bleached hair, right?Stewart said:I know nothing about Jon Russell, but going by this picture, I want him in the side. He has a I’m not going to get bullied off the ball look about him.1 -
Depends who your loaning and to whom doesn't it?Manic_mania said:
Why is it when we are going for someone on loan we all hear "well loans aren't free - got to pay wages" etc etc but when we send someone out on loan all of a sudden it's "well we will be covering most of their wages" so when we get a loan we pay full whack but when we send someone out we get minimal benefit financially?AndyG said:The issue is we have too many players that we cant offload to anyone. If we manage to ship them out it will be on loan where I suspect we will be paying most of their wages. Absolutely no chance of getting anything like what we paid for Stockley, Kirk etc. I dont understand how Gallen gets the free ride that he does on here as he has signed some proper shit for decent money the last few years
Not saying people are wrong but I just don't get it? Is this based on anything factual or just people being negative?
We loan players to the national league for the players benefit, we loan the Gilbeys and McGrandles out to get them off the wage bill. I don't think Palace wanted JRS off the wage bill but market demand would suggest they would expect us to pay something.0 -
Signed for Fleetwood.Redmidland said:Watching Gillette Soccer Saturday, just said that Jack Marriot not playing today as maybe being transferred. One we could be interested in?0 -
RonnieMoore said:Aneke undergoing training program to get him fit
So he could be ready for next season?2 -
Not if he plays a pre season friendlySilverdreammachine said:RonnieMoore said:Aneke undergoing training program to get him fit
So he could be ready for next season?11 -
Rotherham have been linked with Russell and have sold Barlaser today.
They have also signed Conor Coventry from West Ham on loan. Does this mean that they need Russell?1 -
Tbf it was Nixon who linked us with Russell so he could easily end up at Rotherham.MarcusH26 said:Richard J said:Rotherham have been linked with Russell and have sold Barlaser today.
They have also signed Conor Coventry from West Ham on loan. Does this mean that they need Russell?
I'd see Coventry as the replacement for Barlaser for sure.1 -
Barlaser is a great signing for Middlesbrough.
Rotherham… yet another club who do a decent job of recruitment0
