I'd still expect 2 in and 2 out before the deadline , obviously that would give us 6 loans potentially but with Kane's injury that isn't too much of an issue immediately.
Maybe a couple of the youngsters go out on loan too.
Expect or hope?
More going off Holden's interviews really , sounds like we could be quite busy
I hope so, Marcus. What concerns me is that Holden clearly wants players but will the club pay what is required to get them ?
This basically means no-one else will pay his high wages so he’d prefer to stay here even if he never plays.
I really would not blame him. He is coming to the latter stages of his career and was asked to play in a formation that does not suit his skills and experience. That was Garner's fault not his.
I get that it is natural for him to think about number one.
The problem with deadwood like him & Kirk hanging around though is that they’re eating up a significant chunk of our salary budget which is preventing us from creating a squad good enough to get out of L1.
I hoped Andy Scott might be able to move out more of our prephirary players but it looks like we’ll be stuck with the same top earners doing nothing (and consequently stuck in this shite league).
McGrandles out seems sensible. If we get the player I was told about Saturday he’s slightly more advanced so wouldn’t be a like for like. Depends if we want to “force” a deal through
We were also looking at another centre midfielder but I don’t know his name.
I'd still expect 2 in and 2 out before the deadline , obviously that would give us 6 loans potentially but with Kane's injury that isn't too much of an issue immediately.
Maybe a couple of the youngsters go out on loan too.
Expect or hope?
More going off Holden's interviews really , sounds like we could be quite busy
I hope so, Marcus. What concerns me is that Holden clearly wants players but will the club pay what is required to get them ?
Yes they proved that last window with a 400,000 bid for a striker unfortunately we missed out to Huddersfield he was BG number one target
Bit gutted about this. I'd like him gone. Bad attitude, offered precisely nothing this season and is likely our top earner. Go and play football somewhere else. (Although sounded like only L2 interested again). Will offer nothing even as 3rd/4th choice.
Swisdom's 'force' clue might refer to Mason Burstow. "Burst' is a type of force. Or maybe Mason being a builder is also a work force. If Burstow did come back on loan he would be behind Leaburn and Bonne and probably Stockley as well, although I imagine Stockley will be on the move.
Just a few days left as our mid table chasing squad takes shape who’s going where ? any other hidden gems in the Ipswich reserve side for us to covet and jostle over The excitement of this history making failure of a season for us knows no bounds .
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
Oh if we can offload him and get someone else in I still would. But just don't think anyone will be silly enough to pay £6k a week for a crock
Re: Leaburn being sold, the current speculation re: a takeover would complicate things, but if it were TS and someone came in with even a bid of £1m, he’s likely to accept it, regardless of if we think he’s worth more.
When you’ve spunked as much money as he has, with what I presume is little chance to recoup it, you’ll take every penny you can get
No chance TS accepts £1m or Leaburn would already be gone.
If he sells Leaburn any new owner will say the club is now worth £X million less as you’ve just sold off the best asset and only thing you own that’s worth anything. Leaburn is probably the only thing that TS can use to justify asking for a decent fee to sell the club so he won’t want him gone on the cheap
You think Leaburn is worth £10m? But more to the point, why are you writing in Roman Numerals?
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week. Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?
I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money. If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it.
I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us. Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week. Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?
I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money. If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it.
I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us. Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
JFC was a permanent transfer. Won't be paying any of his wages.
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week. Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?
I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money. If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it.
I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us. Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
JFC was a permanent transfer. Won't be paying any of his wages.
Not necessarily. It’s quite likely that JFC would have demanded a compensation payment of the wages he is missing out on by signing permanently for them on a lower wage. No idea if this happened and it wouldn’t have been the full amount but this kind of thing is quite common
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week. Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?
I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money. If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it.
I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us. Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
Jayden lives 5 minutes from Junction 6, M25 so Gillingham would be doable without moving but it is an alarming dip to go from being wanted by Sheffield Wednesday and Portsmouth, 12 to 18 months ago to his present position of losing the captaincy, falling down the pecking order and the 20 goals in all competitions from last season a distant memory.
Don't think Jayden had any pace to lose so really not sure if this back issue is affecting him this season. Most big forwards that battle have ache and pains as it a fight every match. He has obviously suffered in the 3 up front but even when we have played 3-5-2 he just doesn't look like scoring.
He won't want to drop wages and he doesn't want to go up 'North' unless he can use Dale Stephens Satnav.
Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him.
If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week. Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?
I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money. If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it.
I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us. Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
JFC was a permanent transfer. Won't be paying any of his wages.
Not necessarily. It’s quite likely that JFC would have demanded a compensation payment of the wages he is missing out on by signing permanently for them on a lower wage. No idea if this happened and it wouldn’t have been the full amount but this kind of thing is quite common
Exactly what Palace did to allow us to sign Williams and Inniss, I suspect that's what QPR did with Bonne as well.
'End of the world' is the wrong phrase. Stockley saying simply means don't expect to see a forward who offers more on the pitch than off, in terms of a replacement.
Stockley does OK with crosses delivered from wide positions (Wimbledon away springs to mind) and he is handy defending corners. Not so good as a back to goal target man.
Re: Leaburn being sold, the current speculation re: a takeover would complicate things, but if it were TS and someone came in with even a bid of £1m, he’s likely to accept it, regardless of if we think he’s worth more.
When you’ve spunked as much money as he has, with what I presume is little chance to recoup it, you’ll take every penny you can get
Cabbles- : - No chance TS accepts £1m or Leaburn would already be gone.
Gribbo: -
If he sells Leaburn any new owner will say the club is now worth £X million less as you’ve just sold off the best asset and only thing you own that’s worth anything. Leaburn is probably the only thing that TS can use to justify asking for a decent fee to sell the club so he won’t want him gone on the cheap
Gribbo: - You think Leaburn is worth £10m? But more to the point, why are you writing in Roman Numerals?
Vff: - ‘X’ is more of a mathematical type ‘X’ here, Charlton Life at its finest.
Cable’s point is a good one re: selling off the family silver to generate funds for the takeover that Lenegan clearly doesn’t have (to convince EFL that there is working capital for a year).
Its a gamble, what happens if Lenegan et al. don’t manage to flip the club before the money runs out in a year ? & they’ve sold off what decent youngsters & saleable assets Charlton have.
If you look at the numbers we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.
Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.
If you look at the numbers we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.
Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.
Pathetic!
Could probably go back further and include Gallen in that n all
If you look at the numbers we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.
Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.
Pathetic!
Could probably go back further and include Gallen in that n all
Have we actually got any players we signed pre takeover left now JFC has gone? Morgan signed his last contract under ESI 2, with all sorts of 3rd party ownership rumours/bollocks, but other than that I am struggling.
If you look at the numbers we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.
Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.
Pathetic!
Sorry but I think that's wrong. MS is head of analytics which means he does the data mining, data aggragation and produces the analysis and reports and then presents those to Gallen, Rodwell (maybe his Dad) and now Holden. It's those who make the decisions not him (that would be crazy)...but I guess he's an easy target.
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The problem with deadwood like him & Kirk hanging around though is that they’re eating up a significant chunk of our salary budget which is preventing us from creating a squad good enough to get out of L1.
I hoped Andy Scott might be able to move out more of our prephirary players but it looks like we’ll be stuck with the same top earners doing nothing (and consequently stuck in this shite league).
I guess we're looking for replacements first though.
Part of the problem with Stockley is that he not only is on high wages but is also settled in our area (so bloody hard to shift).
No idea what the case is with DJ. He is the one out of these 3 that I would keep unless we have a top winger lined up to come in as a replacement.
I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money. If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it.
I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us. Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
Jayden lives 5 minutes from Junction 6, M25 so Gillingham would be doable without moving but it is an alarming dip to go from being wanted by Sheffield Wednesday and Portsmouth, 12 to 18 months ago to his present position of losing the captaincy, falling down the pecking order and the 20 goals in all competitions from last season a distant memory.
Don't think Jayden had any pace to lose so really not sure if this back issue is affecting him this season. Most big forwards that battle have ache and pains as it a fight every match. He has obviously suffered in the 3 up front but even when we have played 3-5-2 he just doesn't look like scoring.
He won't want to drop wages and he doesn't want to go up 'North' unless he can use Dale Stephens Satnav.
Not so good as a back to goal target man.
Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.
Pathetic!