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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)
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Well it makes clear that something has happened unrelated to footballDazzler21 said:
No it doesn't it's made it even less clear.Leeds_Addick said:
Fair enough, this helps bring clarity to what on the surface looks a weird decision.Sage said:If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
Also just like Solly's situation we get another if & when excuse for not telling a story.
If you know, just say so ffs or say nothing.1 -
I would have loved MM to be a success here as he is an exciting player to watch. However we all commented how the players didnt seem to congratulate him much on his goal when he scored infact many said it must have been to do with covid rules. Perhaps he is just an arse that they didnt like ?6
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I also have to question though if Maddison has done or said something prior to Bowyer's "injury" commentgolfaddick said:
Totally agree......but you have to ask yourself why Maddison doesn't want to be here anymore...? Might it be because his manager publicly slated him & when asked about his injury said he couldn't care.Sage said:Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.
If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.
I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance.
Loyalty works both ways.
I'm not trying to find a narrative that supports Bowyer but even that from Lee was the sort of comment we've not heard before, was it in retaliation to a previous incident between the two, that potentially even Maddison has started?0 -
TBF it has stopped happening recently, amidst speculation Bowyer has been spoken to from above. But the damage may have been done with some.stoneroses19 said:
What keeps happening?cazo said:If so much of the squad don’t get on with bowyer maybe he mite have to go this shit can’t keep happening.1 -
Even that last tweet isnt a glowing endorsement is itMattF said:4 -
How many people need to spell out MM is a bad egg. Good player but it’s widely known what a tool he is.MattF said:I wish him all the best in his future career.3 -
A loan now. That doesn't sound permanent. Or perhaps it does actually if your contract is up when your loan period is due to expire.1
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Cawley has it spot on re: Maddison. If there’s no interest from League One at all, that says a lot doesn’t it?5
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We have absolutely no idea what is going on or why, or what the final situation will be. What we do know is how fantastic SG has been in the past in getting players in that we need.
I think most of us understand just how difficult that job it is, and appreciate how the CAP is making that even more difficult. If we don’t get everything we want, it will not be due to lack of effort.
I for one will not be digging out SG, Bowyer or our owner if it is not perfect. That’s football.8 - Sponsored links:
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Could work wonders if he's not popular in the dressing room thoughmendonca said:A loan now. That doesn't sound permanent. Or perhaps it does actually if you're contract is up when your loan period is due to expire.1 -
Not fussed if Maddison goes, clearly talented but Bowyer obviously doesn't like or trust him.
Would like to keep Williams, when he starts we usually win.
I do think our transfer policy is all over the place at the moment. This Smith player, is he any better than Lapslie for example for 6 months?2 -
The battle scars left on fans after the Roly/ESI years are very evident on this thread. Firmly believe we are starting our ascent back to being a properly run club. I’m hopeful for two more in and fully believe Bows and SG are going all out to get things done. I’m filled with excitement and not dread!16
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Even Cawley doesn't get it...
His talent is not in question. We have even had Bowyer say that.
This is to me a case of Bowyer trying to add certain attributes that a 27 year old has never been pushed to provide and as such is not entirely willing. He has played 10 times for us and 2 of those (one in the cup & one against AFC Wimbledon) he has shown he can do the donkey work. A number of those other games were fairly short cameos as he regained fitness.
There's clearly more to it, but everyone wants say there is whilst refusing to tell us what. That pisses me off.
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Wont be surprised if Williams is going because we know we wont be able to re-sign him in the summer, unless of course we're a Championship club - Another team have come along and offered £200k now which is better than nothing in the summer so might have been the tipping pointBigRedEvil said:Not fussed if Maddison goes, clearly talented but Bowyer obviously doesn't like or trust him.
Would like to keep Williams, when he starts we usually win.
I do think our transfer policy is all over the place at the moment. This Smith player, is he any better than Lapslie for example for 6 months?
Smith comes in instead of Lapslie because he doesnt impact the Salary Cap, Lapslie would have done0 -
I think you’ll find the problem with Maddison came before that and we were then in final straw territory. I don’t know anything but think it’s all been blatantly obvious to see.golfaddick said:
Totally agree......but you have to ask yourself why Maddison doesn't want to be here anymore...? Might it be because his manager publicly slated him & when asked about his injury said he couldn't care.Sage said:Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.
If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.
I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance.
Loyalty works both ways.32 -
Well if he does that, and it all goes tits up, then there really isn't anyone else he can blame this time.Covered End said:
Bowyer is getting rid of the players he doesn't want. It's quite obvious.SELR_addicks said:
Why are we shipping all our players out when you can't get better with the wage cap?ForeverAddickted said:
How do you offer mega transfers, yet can only offer a pittance of a wage?SELR_addicks said:Sounds like we're relying on frees, loans and cheap moves.
Thought this was a brand new era?2 -
Maddison is clearly a complex charcter, and whatever you think of him, has bags of talent on the football pitch.
I am sure there is a way to manage Maddison, and I am sure there are some managers who can get the best out of him. He sounds to me a bit like a Kevin Pietersen type character who probably needs to be managed in a very different way to how you would want to and normally do.
I don't see Bowyer being that sort of person, and as much as I have disagreed with the way he has managed him, if it makes us a better team if he goes then it's the right decision for all those involved.2 -
The results may not have been perfect the last couple of weeks but there’s been a noticeable up tick in desire and cohesiveness of the team since Maddison was frozen out.28
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Oztumerstoneroses19 said:
What keeps happening?cazo said:If so much of the squad don’t get on with bowyer maybe he mite have to go this shit can’t keep happening.
Fosu
Williams
Maddison.
Bowyer appears to prefer robots over skill.7 - Sponsored links:
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Agree @Dazzler21.
Suddenly a few people know 'something' about Maddison, yet have allowed fans to continue getting the wrong end of the stick.
Sod this. I'm hitting the kettlebells and therabands for a few hours.2 -
What Bowyer said about Maddison is on public record. What Maddison has said about Bowyer isn't.0
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Would you feel differently if you knew what Maddison had said was on public record?MuttleyCAFC said:What Bowyer said about Maddison is on public record. What Maddison has said about Bowyer isn't.0 -
christ if people think Oztumer is the answer5
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bang on the moneyCallumcafc said:The results may not have been perfect the last couple of weeks but there’s been a noticeable up tick in desire and cohesiveness of the team since Maddison was frozen out.7 -
Will MM be the first to leave that Bowyer can't claim 'we have improved them'?3
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Seeing a lot of panic on the social media platforms. I am personally saving my panicking for later and I've got fresh sheets at the ready, always best to be prepared for deadline day2
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Well Watson certainly ain'tRothko said:christ if people think Oztumer is the answer3 -
My order's arrived from Amazon - in the nick of time.Braziliance said:Seeing a lot of panic on the social media platforms. I am personally saving my panicking for later and I've got fresh sheets at the ready, always best to be prepared for deadline day
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Well knowing both sides to an argument does change things.ForeverAddickted said:
Would you feel differently if you knew what Maddison had said was on public record?MuttleyCAFC said:What Bowyer said about Maddison is on public record. What Maddison has said about Bowyer isn't.
I might turn around as @Sage suggests and go "Oh okay if he's done that, that's completely unacceptable and I agree with Bowyer on this one"2
