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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • mart77 said:
    I think the time for stressing will be if nobody signs however after signing Millar, Schwartz, Stockley and Smith I see the current action as very positive. Strap in folks!
    If nobody leaves then I'd say we had a decent window. Would've liked a CB but can understand if there's no one available better than Pratley and Pearce.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,565
    Otabor rumour seems to have stemmed from the Football League Zone twitter account - how reliable is it? Has quite a few followers but that could easily be because it has an official sounding name. Most of their tweets are pictures, which for whatever reason get more likes, and of done deals.

    Could quite easily by BS. Like most of the crap posted on deadline day is.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    The Maddison fan club not taking this well.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Plan A Randall ❌

    Plan B Kirk ❌

    Plan C Solomon-Otabor ❌

    Plan D ???
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    RedRobin said:


    Says it all that a player would prefer to stay with club in a relegation battle, than come to us lol 
    So another winger we've missed out on! This, if JW and MM are leaving, is worrying in my mind, I don't think it'll have been a very good window if we fail to sign at least one more player who can be the creative outlet!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    colthe3rd said:
    The Maddison fan club not taking this well.
    If it's one of Maddison and Williams, I can accept it. But getting rid of both seems like lunacy. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    My understanding is a big chunk of his squad dislike him. This can happen in football, and it isn't always necessary to be liked as long as you are respected, but a manager who is always right, never apologises and blames others when things go wrong generally finds it hard to change that dynamic. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,798
    colthe3rd said:
    The Maddison fan club not taking this well.
    Those who want the manager out even worse
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    My understanding is a big chunk of his squad dislike him. This can happen in football, and it isn't always necessary to be liked as long as you are respected, but a manager who is always right, never apologises and blames others when things go wrong generally finds it hard to change that dynamic. 
    Are you talking about Maddison or Bowyer.

    I get the feeling Bowyer doesn't have too many friends in our dressing room.
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  • SamE7
    SamE7 Posts: 276
    edited February 2021
    995632 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    I'm surprised that Bowyer has given up on 2 of his new signings already. 

    It's a really sad sign for me that Bowyer hasn't and won't ever be able to manage difficult players. It's known he holds grudges too. 

    I am disappointed. 
    ....because they are difficult?
    There is a story from the Wiredu sale to Colchester about Bowyer not liking Wiredu buying a new car after he signed a new contract, so made him go back to the U23's... 
    Bowyer has form here with grudges unfortunately... 
    .
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    My understanding is a big chunk of his squad dislike him. This can happen in football, and it isn't always necessary to be liked as long as you are respected, but a manager who is always right, never apologises and blames others when things go wrong generally finds it hard to change that dynamic. 
    It doesn't matter if your squad like you providing they respect you. If a well respected, long term player comes out and says "He's fucking lost it" I don't think you're doing too well in the respect stakes. 

    HOWEVER 

    Let's wait and see how the window pans out. 


  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,666
    cafc4life said:
    if williams and Maddison both leave and we replace them with no one, today will have been absolute pish
    Don't stress 
    Watson is fit 
  • Leuth said:
    Management straight out of the "I was smacked as a child and turned out okay!" school
    Seriously you think Bowyer's approach to managing players is revolutionary and new?
  • Sage said:
    Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.

    If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.

    I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.

    I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance. 
    Fair enough, this helps bring clarity to what on the surface looks a weird decision.

    Does make you wonder what could have gone wrong which has meant he'd rather be playing at Bolton. There's a gap in our team for him to be a great player here.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,821
    If Bowyer and Gallen sign players then decide halfway through a season they’re not good enough let’s get rid, then so be it, everything else is instant these days.  Fully trust their judgment here, positive since TS, that sufficient bodies will be in before deadline.
    There does appear to be an element of decisiveness in play.

    I’ve no idea what goes on at the training ground but judging purely on match action, looks to me as if Bowyer looked at the individual performances between 2-6 weeks ago and decided, that’s it, serious changes need to be made. 

    It was clear Maddison wasn’t going to play again, Smith wasn’t what we needed, Bogle wasn’t up to it and Williams has frustrated if interest is there was worth pursuing. 

    These Maddison and Williams deals would have been in train long before today imo. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Plan A Randall ❌

    Plan B Kirk ❌


    Are you saying our moves for Randall & Hopkirk are dead?


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    My understanding is a big chunk of his squad dislike him. This can happen in football, and it isn't always necessary to be liked as long as you are respected, but a manager who is always right, never apologises and blames others when things go wrong generally finds it hard to change that dynamic. 
    Are you talking about Maddison or Bowyer.

    I get the feeling Bowyer doesn't have too many friends in our dressing room.
    think given that bit he means Bowyer. 
  • SamE7
    SamE7 Posts: 276
    edited February 2021
    Sage said:
    Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.

    If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.

    I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.

    I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance. 
    Sounds like something pretty tasty has happened - why can't you mention it? It's slightly off to post something like this then stop short of actually explaining?
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    Plan A Randall ❌

    Plan B Kirk ❌

    Plan C Solomon-Otabor ❌

    Plan D ???
    Jonny Williams?
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited February 2021
    My understanding is a big chunk of his squad dislike him. This can happen in football, and it isn't always necessary to be liked as long as you are respected, but a manager who is always right, never apologises and blames others when things go wrong generally finds it hard to change that dynamic. 
    Are you talking about Maddison or Bowyer.

    I get the feeling Bowyer doesn't have too many friends in our dressing room.
    I don't know about Maddison. What Bowyer said about Maddison's injury was a total disgrace and an embarrassment. Whatever the faults of the player, it is not something that can ever be acceptable. Of course there was going to be a falling out after that.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,691
    edited February 2021
    Sage said:
    Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.

    If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.

    I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.

    I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance. 
     i could of told Bowyer that would probably happen even before we got him 
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    If so much of the squad don’t get on with bowyer maybe he mite have to go this shit can’t keep happening.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,030
    Otabor rumour seems to have stemmed from the Football League Zone twitter account - how reliable is it? Has quite a few followers but that could easily be because it has an official sounding name. Most of their tweets are pictures, which for whatever reason get more likes, and of done deals.

    Could quite easily by BS. Like most of the crap posted on deadline day is.
    I know Will Unwin . He has worked for ITV and the Guardian . He is a credible journo . 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Sage said:
    Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.

    If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.

    I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.

    I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance. 
    Totally agree......but you have to ask yourself why Maddison doesn't want to be here anymore...? Might it be because his manager publicly slated him & when asked about his injury said he couldn't care. 

    Loyalty works both ways.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,362
    Waiting for:

    ’Charlton have made a last minute bid for Bolton winger Marcus Maddison’
  • cazo said:
    If so much of the squad don’t get on with bowyer maybe he mite have to go this shit can’t keep happening.
    What keeps happening? 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited February 2021
    Sage said:
    If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
    Fair enough, this helps bring clarity to what on the surface looks a weird decision.
    No it doesn't it's made it even less clear. 

    Also just like Solly's situation we get another if & when excuse for not telling a story. 

    If you know, just say so and help us all get back on the Bowyer Bus ffs or say nothing. 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Must say I’m somewhat surprised at the lack of ITK’s today.