Didn't take long - Marseille ain't changed.

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

Sparrows Lane Lion said:

DOUCHER said:

Singing Isis where r u and then bleating when attacked - would never bother with an England tournament - if I did I would b nowhere near the knob heads coz this is what happens

Hang on...singing a song about ISIS deserves an attack?

Are you saying people out there are pro-ISIS and defending the ISIS name by attacking England fans?

haven't got a clue but should think there are loads of muslims / ISIS supporters out there - close to north africa - why sing it if you don't want them to show up - were they inviting them to join them for drinks? maybe an aperitif before dinner? Typical millwall - they were asking for trouble and got it from what I can see - may not have been Queensbury rules but not interested in any of the complaints - full of muppets like your lot in that video of the Barnsley game being 'held back' by 3 stewards - can't just go, have a laugh and a sing song and enjoy things - have to group up and then start provoking - we all know it.

Wow.

I'm not sure what's worse, the fact you seem to think 450+ miles of sea is "close" or the fact you seem to think it's acceptable to band "muslims / ISIS supporters" in to the same category.

We've established they were singing "ISIS - Where are you?" and then got picked upon by a group of local youths, who were beginning to mass nearby.. most likely not due to their chants, but due to the fact they're England fans and England fans historically do have a reputation for liking a bit of a ruck.

If you think that they were attacked as they were singing a song about not being intimidated by ISIS, and the locals are "loads of muslims / ISIS supporters" then you need to take a long look at yourself. I would also suggest that that version of events would be even more dispicable than what actually occurred.

Wow my arse - so there is no link betweenmuslims and Isis? I'm not saying all Muslims r Isis am I and yes, it's a known fact that marseille is heavily populated with Muslims - why do u think they are singing it?

Im drunk and still think you're an idiot. Look up the word "Heuristic", then look up how to use a slash, and finally re-read your post.

There is a link between ISIS and Muslims. It's in the "I", Sherlock.

There's also a weird link between priests and child abuse, do all Christians deserve to be lumped in with child abusers? Would "Christians / Child Abusers" be OK with you?

What about Indian shopkeepers? "Indians / Shopkeepers" sounds a bit dumb too doesn't it? There's a few Indian shopkeepers but all Indians are not shopkeepers, and it would be wrong to count them as the same.

Hell, you're in a thread about football violence and you're casting aspersions about English fans being violent. By your logic with Muslims you're actually a football hooligan, I presume you're English? In which case you're "English / Football Hooligan".

Give it up and stop spreading bile.

probably the most civil thing i can say to you, my low intelligence little friend, is that you are a complete prat - a clueless mug and you really should pull your head out of your arse. end of discussion.

Eloquently put, nice one mate! I shall continue to aspire to your level of highly-articulated, intelligent and witty debate..

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

Sparrows Lane Lion said:

DOUCHER said:

Singing Isis where r u and then bleating when attacked - would never bother with an England tournament - if I did I would b nowhere near the knob heads coz this is what happens

Hang on...singing a song about ISIS deserves an attack?

Are you saying people out there are pro-ISIS and defending the ISIS name by attacking England fans?

haven't got a clue but should think there are loads of muslims / ISIS supporters out there - close to north africa - why sing it if you don't want them to show up - were they inviting them to join them for drinks? maybe an aperitif before dinner? Typical millwall - they were asking for trouble and got it from what I can see - may not have been Queensbury rules but not interested in any of the complaints - full of muppets like your lot in that video of the Barnsley game being 'held back' by 3 stewards - can't just go, have a laugh and a sing song and enjoy things - have to group up and then start provoking - we all know it.

Wow.

I'm not sure what's worse, the fact you seem to think 450+ miles of sea is "close" or the fact you seem to think it's acceptable to band "muslims / ISIS supporters" in to the same category.

We've established they were singing "ISIS - Where are you?" and then got picked upon by a group of local youths, who were beginning to mass nearby.. most likely not due to their chants, but due to the fact they're England fans and England fans historically do have a reputation for liking a bit of a ruck.

If you think that they were attacked as they were singing a song about not being intimidated by ISIS, and the locals are "loads of muslims / ISIS supporters" then you need to take a long look at yourself. I would also suggest that that version of events would be even more dispicable than what actually occurred.

Wow my arse - so there is no link betweenmuslims and Isis? I'm not saying all Muslims r Isis am I and yes, it's a known fact that marseille is heavily populated with Muslims - why do u think they are singing it?

Im drunk and still think you're an idiot. Look up the word "Heuristic", then look up how to use a slash, and finally re-read your post.

There is a link between ISIS and Muslims. It's in the "I", Sherlock.

There's also a weird link between priests and child abuse, do all Christians deserve to be lumped in with child abusers? Would "Christians / Child Abusers" be OK with you?

What about Indian shopkeepers? "Indians / Shopkeepers" sounds a bit dumb too doesn't it? There's a few Indian shopkeepers but all Indians are not shopkeepers, and it would be wrong to count them as the same.

Hell, you're in a thread about football violence and you're casting aspersions about English fans being violent. By your logic with Muslims you're actually a football hooligan, I presume you're English? In which case you're "English / Football Hooligan".

Give it up and stop spreading bile.

probably the most civil thing i can say to you, my low intelligence little friend, is that you are a complete prat - a clueless mug and you really should pull your head out of your arse. end of discussion.

Eloquently put, nice one mate! I shall continue to aspire to your level of highly-articulated, intelligent and witty debate..

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

i think we should settle it over an english exam - pick a past paper and we can go at it

Well I'd be a fucking shoo-in for that one, so I'm game.

LuckyReds said:

DOUCHER said:

i think we should settle it over an english exam - pick a past paper and we can go at it

Well I'd be a fucking shoo-in for that one, so I'm game.

The Organiser said:

We've just left the port area in Marseille for a hairy walk back to our hotel. And yet again I'm pretty sure it was about to go pear shaped down there. Big group of English drunk and singing but good natured. As the night went on more and more locals were mobbing up and you could feel where it was going.

I actually feel sorry for some of the English boys down there as despite the fact they were acting like drunken fools, they don't deserve the attack that is probably coming thier way.

And to the lad earlier who suggested Wales don't/won't cause problems.......Pmsl you must live in cloud cookoo land mate.

The ignorance of some people on these topics os incredible.

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ValleyGary said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

MillwallFan said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

ValleyGary said:

UEFA warn Russian AND ENGLAND they will be removed from the competition should anymore violence occur.

Clueless wankers.

20k Wales fans will look like a soft target methinks. Hope I'm wrong.

Wales are capable of a bit of casual violence and all, be rest assured of that.

Not sure how you can assess that given the absence of Welsh participation in any tournament for 58 years ?

I'm sure there will be a few nutters in any group of 20k but there is nothing to suggest including the match v Slovakia that the Welsh will cause trouble.

Edit : we know the Russians will

By the fact that the followers of their domestic clubs, Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham and add to them Newport are generally mental.

This. Know a few of the old Cardiff lot and they said they was always at it at various qualifiers around Europe over the years. And when they didn't have any opposition to fight Cardiff and Swansea would quite often turn on each other as well as Wrexham, who used to take loads to Wales away games. Met a Wrexham lad on holiday who backed this up. Can see a repeat of the trouble we had when Wales play Russia.

And next Thursday.

Think next Thursday will be fine. Lens has no bars so fans will go to the stadium and now the fan zone is pretty much pointless if you can't have a drink.

I was meant to be driving up there Wednesday morning, but because of this plus the Mrs saying I ain't allowed to go, it's all on the back burner.......for now. Lille, up the road is full of bars

Kenny Achampong said:

Whilst watching the horribly distressing scenes from Marseille unfold, there seems to have been one point in all of this that the media has missed out on.

The Russians have not bought/bribed/won the next Football World cup, in an effort to give their frankly awful football team the chance to win on home soil.

They have bought that tournament to showcase the best of Russia to the world, with the specific intent on attracting both the short and long term tourist dollar.

Now call me Mr Picky, but I am fairly certain that the thought of being bottled and garrotted by a bunch of Neo Nazi thugs, would be enough to turn most potential tourists away from the Ural's.

Given the reputation of the Russian police, I can see the 2018 tournament, being very much seen as best given a miss, especially by the western eurpoean nations, with whom lies the bulk of the potential incoming fans.

The one thing that we do know about Vladmir Putin, is that he does not enjoy being embarassed on the world stage, something that thousands of empty seats and hotel room's would surely do.

The next move from the Russian FA, will be an interesting one, as will the reception back home given to the 150 or so hooligans, who seemed purely focussed on attacking the English.

Either way, you can be sure that the hand of Putin will be behind both responses.

bazjonster said:

ValleyGary said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

MillwallFan said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

ValleyGary said:

UEFA warn Russian AND ENGLAND they will be removed from the competition should anymore violence occur.

Clueless wankers.

20k Wales fans will look like a soft target methinks. Hope I'm wrong.

Wales are capable of a bit of casual violence and all, be rest assured of that.

Not sure how you can assess that given the absence of Welsh participation in any tournament for 58 years ?

I'm sure there will be a few nutters in any group of 20k but there is nothing to suggest including the match v Slovakia that the Welsh will cause trouble.

Edit : we know the Russians will

By the fact that the followers of their domestic clubs, Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham and add to them Newport are generally mental.

This. Know a few of the old Cardiff lot and they said they was always at it at various qualifiers around Europe over the years. And when they didn't have any opposition to fight Cardiff and Swansea would quite often turn on each other as well as Wrexham, who used to take loads to Wales away games. Met a Wrexham lad on holiday who backed this up. Can see a repeat of the trouble we had when Wales play Russia.

And next Thursday.

Think next Thursday will be fine. Lens has no bars so fans will go to the stadium and now the fan zone is pretty much pointless if you can't have a drink.

Priceless! Obviously unable to have a good time unless sipped a Stella a 2.

bazjonster said:

ValleyGary said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

MillwallFan said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

ValleyGary said:

UEFA warn Russian AND ENGLAND they will be removed from the competition should anymore violence occur.

Clueless wankers.

20k Wales fans will look like a soft target methinks. Hope I'm wrong.

Wales are capable of a bit of casual violence and all, be rest assured of that.

Not sure how you can assess that given the absence of Welsh participation in any tournament for 58 years ?

I'm sure there will be a few nutters in any group of 20k but there is nothing to suggest including the match v Slovakia that the Welsh will cause trouble.

Edit : we know the Russians will

By the fact that the followers of their domestic clubs, Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham and add to them Newport are generally mental.

This. Know a few of the old Cardiff lot and they said they was always at it at various qualifiers around Europe over the years. And when they didn't have any opposition to fight Cardiff and Swansea would quite often turn on each other as well as Wrexham, who used to take loads to Wales away games. Met a Wrexham lad on holiday who backed this up. Can see a repeat of the trouble we had when Wales play Russia.

And next Thursday.

Think next Thursday will be fine. Lens has no bars so fans will go to the stadium and now the fan zone is pretty much pointless if you can't have a drink.

Priceless! Obviously unable to have a good time unless sipped a Stella a 2.