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Didn't take long - Marseille ain't changed.

The_Organiser
The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633958/England-fans-truly-arrived-France-Bare-chested-supporters-hit-beers-Marseille-ahead-opening-game-Russia.html

Be safe out there lads. I've got a trapped nerve in my back so got no chance being able to get away from something quickly
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    Love the way the report is to insinuate England fans playing up when the actual story is England fans being acted by a local mob.

    Good old Daily Mail
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    The state of some of those fellas in the pictures though.

    I'd probably be the same to be fair but we are a unique (meaning unique) set of fans, us English.
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    As always AFKA.

    England will do what they always - take over some bars, drink loads and sing songs and get boisterous/rowdy.

    In certain places - Marseille, Rome, Eastern Europe there will always be gangs of local (mainly) youth who will goad all day and then attack at night when it suits them.

    Happened at som many games I've been to esp in Eastern Europe where England fans get hurt and no one in this Country (media or public gives a fuck).

    Move to a tournament and when England have larger numbers who will have a pop back and the media are all over it.

    I'm sure it will get worse today and esp. tonight when our numbers massively increase.

    It's Marseille though - why play it there ( I don't buy that they can't move them early on) as every club or Country who go their have problems.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Please avoid trouble and enjoy the football! Don't spoil it for us!
  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    Not good. The thing that would worry me as a normal fan is getting home after a match/night when in smaller numbers. Take care out there fellow Addicks.
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    Please avoid trouble and enjoy the football! Don't spoil it for us!

    Spoil it for you?? Easy to say when you're not there being goaded by locals and then attacked. I'd be pretty confident the game in Lyon will be trouble free. It's Marseille - they're like it against most - ask Bolton!!
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    edited June 2016
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    Please avoid trouble and enjoy the football! Don't spoil it for us!

    You what
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    Dont't get the reason for singing the ISIS song. Always going to be inflammatory in France st the moment, let alone Marseille.

    I know things are portrayed in a certain way based on our history but we (the minority to be fair) don't help them/ourselves.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    Please avoid trouble and enjoy the football! Don't spoil it for us!

    How patronising.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2016
    It isn't patronising at all - we have the same problem at every major tournament. If you want to avoid trouble - and I know opposing fans are looking to start it too, you can.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    It isn't patronising at all - we have the same problem at every major tournament. If you want to avoid trouble - and I know opposing fans are looking to start it too, you can.

    How?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2016
    You don't respond to chants and goading and resist from doing it yourself. You are not representing your country in a war, and you allow the police to deal with the foreign trouble makers.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Clive Pilkington guide to England Away coming up
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Brace yourselves
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    It isn't patronising at all - we have the same problem at every major tournament. If you want to avoid trouble - and I know opposing fans are looking to start it too, you can.

    You're asking a fellow Charlton fan and regular poster to not spoil it for you. Unless you're his dad and he's 7 it comes across as very patronising.

    Yes we have a large number of cocks follow England but the shit rag that is the daily mail spins stuff to fit the narrative. The story actually says they were provoked and attacked. So what if they're pissed and have shirts off...that's praised when the scots and irish do it.
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    edited June 2016
    Been to pretty much every away since the euro qualifiers started and have seen no trouble at all.

    I didn't have the minerals for this one so decided not to go.

    They aren't attacking at 2pm when the pub is full. They attack when its midnight and small pockets of fans are walking home at closing time.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2016
    I was addressing the England fans involved in the trouble' If it come over as otherwise I apologise.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I was addressing the England fans involved in the trouble' If it come over as otherwise I apologise.

    Apologies for jumping on your comment. Just get fed up with the media focusing on the negatives where it comes to England and football fans in general particularly this paper which is one of the most immoral and hypocritical rags about.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,896
    Sounds like a millwall sob story - it's not us it just follows us around
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  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    You don't respond to chants and goading and resist from doing it yourself. You are not representing your country in a war, and you allow the police to deal with the foreign trouble makers.

    You are aware that the England fans were set upon right?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Yes, I know they are targeted. It takes a lot of courage not to fight back and isn't always possible - but If our fans try, we can focus on our team trying to win the thing! Which would be a nice change.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    Yes, I know they are targeted. It takes a lot of courage not to fight back and isn't always possible - but If our fans try, we can focus on our team trying to win the thing! Which would be a nice change.

    If our fans try and not get beaten up?
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,896
    Singing Isis where r u and then bleating when attacked - would never bother with an England tournament - if I did I would b nowhere near the knob heads coz this is what happens
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    DOUCHER said:

    Singing Isis where r u and then bleating when attacked - would never bother with an England tournament - if I did I would b nowhere near the knob heads coz this is what happens

    Full of dickheads

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    It just seems sooo much agg to have to have your wits about you pissed up is not my idea of fun
    I know previously mates who got grief after the game from old bill in France and shepherded on to transport they didn't want
    Feel for the normal punters who just wanna see footy have a beer and a laugh and can get caught up amongst all that shit
    Went to Japan 2002 cos it was far enough away to stop most of the knobheads going out there
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    DOUCHER said:

    Singing Isis where r u and then bleating when attacked - would never bother with an England tournament - if I did I would b nowhere near the knob heads coz this is what happens

    A lot of people do that aswell.

    I wonder why the daily mail doesn't write articles about those fans.
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Worth looking at @Geoff_Pearson's timeline in Twitter for one perspective on events in Marseille overnight.
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    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
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