Didn't take long - Marseille ain't changed.
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Nope, can't see it? Been through my sentence again and analysed in depth, but can't find one mention of the word 'Muslim'!Algarveaddick said:
Apologies, I didn't realise that the bar in which the England fans were attacked was in a Muslim area.bazjonster said:
Absolutely, avoid the areas where they live and frequent because a load of ignorant idiots, whose buffoonery is exasperated at the mere whiff of a tasteless Stella, are in town!!Algarveaddick said:Most of you know I am a very liberally minded lefty type, I have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. But if I were a moderate Muslim in Marseilles for the next couple of days I would simply avoid the areas where the football fans are - why go along mob handed to a bar (when you don't drink) in order to be offended? If you know you are the type that will fly off the handle if "provoked", stay away.
It's embarrassing!!
No need to apologise though Algarve. I know the sun is strong there at this time of the year; even in the early morning!
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One more than you then.ValleyGary said:
Is the first accurate comment you've made so farShootersHillGuru said:
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In the cold,sober light of day, I haven't a clue what I mean in that last sentence.Red_in_SE8 said:
I have never followed Millwall at an away game. I have being to the Old Den and the New Den about 20 times in total. So not quite non-existent.Redskin said:
I thought not, and yet you jump at the chance to equate England fans' behaviour with that out of Charlton Life's favourite whipping boys , Millwall, although I imagine your real experience of their behaviour is as equally non-existent as that of yours with England away fans.Red_in_SE8 said:
None. Being to a few home games. Spending a few hours on the tube and in a stadium surrounded by moronic violent racists is bad enough. Do you really think I would want to subject myself to more than that?Redskin said:
How many times have you followed England away?Red_in_SE8 said:
Think poor Millwall fans have the same problems whenever they travel to away games.The Organiser said:If people genuinely think the locals only attacked cos of that song (which most probably didn't hear anyway) then I give up.
You realise think kind of thing (locals attaching us) happens at lots of England away games and is never ever reported..... Until England are in big numbers at a tournament and react.
You just suck it up as easily as those you look down your nose on.
I haven't a clue what you mean in that last sentence?
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I struggle to match that statement with each new footage I see of drunken, shirtless, flabby, inbred English scum acting out in another foreign city.Algarveaddick said:Can't believe how many people are continuing to have a pop after that police statement was posted? The situation is explained pretty well and football fans like us, most of whom have been tarred with the same brush as violent idiots at some point in our life, are acting like tabloid journalists and just carrying on as if that statement never happened. se9addick seems to have a less hysterical take on it.
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Is the fat bald bloke that Wednesday fan?WSS said:2 -
I thought that at first but think it might have a been a flare?Alwaysneil said:How the duck did that fire start in the bar?
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You really hate this Country don't you?Red_in_SE8 said:
I struggle to match that statement with each new footage I see of drunken, shirtless, flabby, inbred English scum acting out in another foreign city.Algarveaddick said:Can't believe how many people are continuing to have a pop after that police statement was posted? The situation is explained pretty well and football fans like us, most of whom have been tarred with the same brush as violent idiots at some point in our life, are acting like tabloid journalists and just carrying on as if that statement never happened. se9addick seems to have a less hysterical take on it.
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I was talking specifically about Muslims, so assumed that by "they" you were also referring to Muslims? Who were the "they" you meant?bazjonster said:
Nope, can't see it? Been through my sentence again and analysed in depth, but can't find one mention of the word 'Muslim'!Algarveaddick said:
Apologies, I didn't realise that the bar in which the England fans were attacked was in a Muslim area.bazjonster said:
Absolutely, avoid the areas where they live and frequent because a load of ignorant idiots, whose buffoonery is exasperated at the mere whiff of a tasteless Stella, are in town!!Algarveaddick said:Most of you know I am a very liberally minded lefty type, I have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. But if I were a moderate Muslim in Marseilles for the next couple of days I would simply avoid the areas where the football fans are - why go along mob handed to a bar (when you don't drink) in order to be offended? If you know you are the type that will fly off the handle if "provoked", stay away.
It's embarrassing!!
No need to apologise though Algarve. I know the sun is strong there at this time of the year; even in the early morning!0 -
Sorry the statement does not suit you. Don't really know what else I can say?Red_in_SE8 said:
I struggle to match that statement with each new footage I see of drunken, shirtless, flabby, inbred English scum acting out in another foreign city.Algarveaddick said:Can't believe how many people are continuing to have a pop after that police statement was posted? The situation is explained pretty well and football fans like us, most of whom have been tarred with the same brush as violent idiots at some point in our life, are acting like tabloid journalists and just carrying on as if that statement never happened. se9addick seems to have a less hysterical take on it.
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Unless by they he means the French?Algarveaddick said:
I was talking specifically about Muslims, so assumed that by "they" you were also referring to Muslims? Who were the "they" you meant?bazjonster said:
Nope, can't see it? Been through my sentence again and analysed in depth, but can't find one mention of the word 'Muslim'!Algarveaddick said:
Apologies, I didn't realise that the bar in which the England fans were attacked was in a Muslim area.bazjonster said:
Absolutely, avoid the areas where they live and frequent because a load of ignorant idiots, whose buffoonery is exasperated at the mere whiff of a tasteless Stella, are in town!!Algarveaddick said:Most of you know I am a very liberally minded lefty type, I have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. But if I were a moderate Muslim in Marseilles for the next couple of days I would simply avoid the areas where the football fans are - why go along mob handed to a bar (when you don't drink) in order to be offended? If you know you are the type that will fly off the handle if "provoked", stay away.
It's embarrassing!!
No need to apologise though Algarve. I know the sun is strong there at this time of the year; even in the early morning!0 - Sponsored links:
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Sorry the statement does not suit you. Don't really know what else I can say?Red_in_SE8 said:
I struggle to match that statement with each new footage I see of drunken, shirtless, flabby, inbred English scum acting out in another foreign city.Algarveaddick said:Can't believe how many people are continuing to have a pop after that police statement was posted? The situation is explained pretty well and football fans like us, most of whom have been tarred with the same brush as violent idiots at some point in our life, are acting like tabloid journalists and just carrying on as if that statement never happened. se9addick seems to have a less hysterical take on it.
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I hate the yobs that bring shame on this country at every international tournament.Addickted said:
You really hate this Country don't you?Red_in_SE8 said:
I struggle to match that statement with each new footage I see of drunken, shirtless, flabby, inbred English scum acting out in another foreign city.Algarveaddick said:Can't believe how many people are continuing to have a pop after that police statement was posted? The situation is explained pretty well and football fans like us, most of whom have been tarred with the same brush as violent idiots at some point in our life, are acting like tabloid journalists and just carrying on as if that statement never happened. se9addick seems to have a less hysterical take on it.
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As I said KmyB, in my original post I specifically referred to Muslims, BJ referenced my post, I think it's only natural to assume that the "they" he is referring to is the same group that I am?Karim_myBagheri said:
Unless by they he means the French?Algarveaddick said:
I was talking specifically about Muslims, so assumed that by "they" you were also referring to Muslims? Who were the "they" you meant?bazjonster said:
Nope, can't see it? Been through my sentence again and analysed in depth, but can't find one mention of the word 'Muslim'!Algarveaddick said:
Apologies, I didn't realise that the bar in which the England fans were attacked was in a Muslim area.bazjonster said:
Absolutely, avoid the areas where they live and frequent because a load of ignorant idiots, whose buffoonery is exasperated at the mere whiff of a tasteless Stella, are in town!!Algarveaddick said:Most of you know I am a very liberally minded lefty type, I have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. But if I were a moderate Muslim in Marseilles for the next couple of days I would simply avoid the areas where the football fans are - why go along mob handed to a bar (when you don't drink) in order to be offended? If you know you are the type that will fly off the handle if "provoked", stay away.
It's embarrassing!!
No need to apologise though Algarve. I know the sun is strong there at this time of the year; even in the early morning!0 -
Think this has come full circle.
The trouble is not solely caused by England fans we know that. Because of their reputation they attract the violent local element of wherever they go. An easy target if you like. There will have been many innocent English fans caught up in the trouble. This is undeniable.
What is also undeniable is that along with the good natured England supporters looking for a few drinks and a pleasant evening there is a hard core of not insignificant numbers who are there because they can get pissed up and have a ruck.
It's this element that embarrass me in the way they conduct themselves and the way they look.
I still contend that you could take the word England out of this post and substitute it for Millwall and the post is still valid.9 -
Nah...lovely city, but on the train in you do go through some very rough suburbs...like most large cities.The_President said:Marseille is a sh1thole - always has been - also 'home' to the French Foreign Legion in Aubagne which is effectively a suburb of Marseille.
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Surely I mean surely the fact it was a flare in that pub and not on fire (ffs lol) explains the reaction and much more importantly proves that you really really need to open your eyes to the context that surrounds these short videos and stills you see. I can't emphasise enough how the media portrayal rarely tells the full story!6
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Mate for me i read it as the same as you. I was just being a bit tongue in cheek.Algarveaddick said:
As I said KmyB, in my original post I specifically referred to Muslims, BJ referenced my post, I think it's only natural to assume that the "they" he is referring to is the same group that I am?Karim_myBagheri said:
Unless by they he means the French?Algarveaddick said:
I was talking specifically about Muslims, so assumed that by "they" you were also referring to Muslims? Who were the "they" you meant?bazjonster said:
Nope, can't see it? Been through my sentence again and analysed in depth, but can't find one mention of the word 'Muslim'!Algarveaddick said:
Apologies, I didn't realise that the bar in which the England fans were attacked was in a Muslim area.bazjonster said:
Absolutely, avoid the areas where they live and frequent because a load of ignorant idiots, whose buffoonery is exasperated at the mere whiff of a tasteless Stella, are in town!!Algarveaddick said:Most of you know I am a very liberally minded lefty type, I have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. But if I were a moderate Muslim in Marseilles for the next couple of days I would simply avoid the areas where the football fans are - why go along mob handed to a bar (when you don't drink) in order to be offended? If you know you are the type that will fly off the handle if "provoked", stay away.
It's embarrassing!!
No need to apologise though Algarve. I know the sun is strong there at this time of the year; even in the early morning!1 -
At least I've learnt how to spell Marseille, I thought it was Marseilles.
Nothing surprising otherwise.2 -
don't forget shaven headed.Red_in_SE8 said:
I struggle to match that statement with each new footage I see of drunken, shirtless, flabby, inbred English scum acting out in another foreign city.Algarveaddick said:Can't believe how many people are continuing to have a pop after that police statement was posted? The situation is explained pretty well and football fans like us, most of whom have been tarred with the same brush as violent idiots at some point in our life, are acting like tabloid journalists and just carrying on as if that statement never happened. se9addick seems to have a less hysterical take on it.
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Well I thought so.Karim_myBagheri said:
Is the fat bald bloke that Wednesday fan?WSS said:0 - Sponsored links:
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'Don't mention the Muslims!'Algarveaddick said:
As I said KmyB, in my original post I specifically referred to Muslims, BJ referenced my post, I think it's only natural to assume that the "they" he is referring to is the same group that I am?Karim_myBagheri said:
Unless by they he means the French?Algarveaddick said:
I was talking specifically about Muslims, so assumed that by "they" you were also referring to Muslims? Who were the "they" you meant?bazjonster said:
Nope, can't see it? Been through my sentence again and analysed in depth, but can't find one mention of the word 'Muslim'!Algarveaddick said:
Apologies, I didn't realise that the bar in which the England fans were attacked was in a Muslim area.bazjonster said:
Absolutely, avoid the areas where they live and frequent because a load of ignorant idiots, whose buffoonery is exasperated at the mere whiff of a tasteless Stella, are in town!!Algarveaddick said:Most of you know I am a very liberally minded lefty type, I have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. But if I were a moderate Muslim in Marseilles for the next couple of days I would simply avoid the areas where the football fans are - why go along mob handed to a bar (when you don't drink) in order to be offended? If you know you are the type that will fly off the handle if "provoked", stay away.
It's embarrassing!!
No need to apologise though Algarve. I know the sun is strong there at this time of the year; even in the early morning!0 -
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I missed the Beckenham train once and ended up on the Bexleyheath line. I was aghast at what I witnessed out the window as I passed through.Hastingsaddick said:
Nah...lovely city, but on the train in you do go through some very rough suburbs...like most large cities.The_President said:Marseille is a sh1thole - always has been - also 'home' to the French Foreign Legion in Aubagne which is effectively a suburb of Marseille.
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Wot u mean? We is edudacated there.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:.
I missed the Beckenham train once and ended up on the Bexleyheath line. I was aghast at what I witnessed out the window as I passed through.Hastingsaddick said:
Nah...lovely city, but on the train in you do go through some very rough suburbs...like most large cities.The_President said:Marseille is a sh1thole - always has been - also 'home' to the French Foreign Legion in Aubagne which is effectively a suburb of Marseille.
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I tend to agree with this. We have a lot of double standards here.ShootersHillGuru said:Think this has come full circle.
The trouble is not solely caused by England fans we know that. Because of their reputation they attract the violent local element of wherever they go. An easy target if you like. There will have been many innocent English fans caught up in the trouble. This is undeniable.
What is also undeniable is that along with the good natured England supporters looking for a few drinks and a pleasant evening there is a hard core of not insignificant numbers who are there because they can get pissed up and have a ruck.
It's this element that embarrass me in the way they conduct themselves and the way they look.
I still contend that you could take the word England out of this post and substitute it for Millwall and the post is still valid.
If you go to someone else's manor, be it abroad or you did it at Millwall or Leeds or wherever and was drinking morning to night, out on the streets, singing and chanting, some of which the words may be offensive. It's obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense, that you will likely attract trouble, especially in Marseille.
I've never followed England away because of this and if I had, I certainly wouldn't hang around in the area, where it is likely to kick off. If you're an England fan you can't 100% avoid trouble, but you can probably do so.
Imagine if the tournament was being held in England & Charlton hosted a game.
Bexleyheath (for example) choc full of pissed up Turks/Germans/Croatians (whoever), morning to night, all over the streets for days. Would it all kick off ?
Yes it would & if it did we'd blame them.
So yes I agree with SHG, the fault is shared and some England fans are the cause by doing the above.7 -
Sorry bout that, can't resist a bit of naked sunbathing sometimes...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:.
I missed the Beckenham train once and ended up on the Bexleyheath line. I was aghast at what I witnessed out the window as I passed through.Hastingsaddick said:
Nah...lovely city, but on the train in you do go through some very rough suburbs...like most large cities.The_President said:Marseille is a sh1thole - always has been - also 'home' to the French Foreign Legion in Aubagne which is effectively a suburb of Marseille.
#justsaying
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No idea how many fans we'll have in Marseille but i'd guess it'll be at least 25-30k. I know we often say it's a minority and it obviously clearly is, but if even 3-4% of them kick off (and i'd guess that % will probably be higher), that's still a fair old number causing trouble and they're the ones we're seeing plastered across every paper and news update.0
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Sounds like a Brexit leaflet!Covered End said:
Bexleyheath (for example) choc full of pissed up Turks/Germans/Croatians (whoever), morning to night, all over the streets for days.0 -
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Why did you do it on such a cold day? ;-)Shrew said:
Sorry bout that, can't resist a bit of naked sunbathing sometimes...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:.
I missed the Beckenham train once and ended up on the Bexleyheath line. I was aghast at what I witnessed out the window as I passed through.Hastingsaddick said:
Nah...lovely city, but on the train in you do go through some very rough suburbs...like most large cities.The_President said:Marseille is a sh1thole - always has been - also 'home' to the French Foreign Legion in Aubagne which is effectively a suburb of Marseille.
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