It’s obvious that Jones doesn’t consider any of our three current keepers ready to start the season as number one. Mannion is also obviously considered to be the medium term future. In the short term Jones wants experience not potential. All of the GK’s we’ve been linked to and missed out on fit that bill of experience and age. No idea whether Begovic will sign but he fits the profile of what we’ve been looking for.
Yep totally agree. Have to say I'd prefer a Walton or even a Davies who we missed out on but Begovic fits the bill seemingly as we were after Ruddy and they're the same age. I wouldn't even say Begovic is option 4, I think we made an approach earlier, was probably rebuffed or he wanted too much money and then the circumstances have changed.
Begovic feels a bit like Ben Foster at Wrexham, might do for a season, but not sure he's at an age or skill level still to contend in the league above.
A 1 year deal, with a an option of another, may make sense from both a coaching of other keepers and to ensure he is still as good as we need him to be...
If QPR are unsure about him, I definitely wouldn't want him as No1 in 25/26 season in the champ. But not concerned about that, think he's got enough in him to be a decent League 1 keeper right now.
Are people Fawning over Begovic because he's a player we actually know and used to be good?
45 games in the Championship last season does excite me but he seems to get mixed reviews last season. Experienced keeper could be great for the defence and will help Mannion to come in as our number 1 soon, but something feels a bit off about it. I will ask my QPR mate his thoughts on him.
Thanks and as soon as you’ve heard back from your QPR mate, and shared his intel’ here, we’ll be sure to pass it on ASAP to Nathan and co. Important to keep the lines of communication open.
Interesting that a good number of people are shooting Begovic down but were happy with Adam Davies who has been a number 2 for a few seasons now and only really done it at Barnsley (which keeper have we heard that about before???)
Begovic feels a bit like Ben Foster at Wrexham, might do for a season, but not sure he's at an age or skill level still to contend in the league above.
A 1 year deal, with a an option of another, may make sense from both a coaching of other keepers and to ensure he is still as good as we need him to be...
He was literally contending in the league above a few weeks ago.
In any case, if he gets us up and out of this miserable league in the coming season, then it won't matter.
I'm less concerned about signing a 37 year old with a long career behind him to play in goal than any other position. Surely Begovic is an improvement in quality. Bring it on.
I just don’t know about Begovic. I think some of the excitement I’ve seen is way overboard - are people just getting giddy because we haven’t had any signings in a couple of weeks?
Better than what we have in Isted & AMB probably. But doesn’t scream promotion goalkeeper at me. This feels more like a “NJ at Stoke” signing than it does “NJ at Luton” signing.
Hope I’m wrong if it does happen.
It feels like we didn't get our first, second or even third-choice goalkeeper so we're moving on to a short-term solution - then maybe we will revisit again next Summer. But we could probably do worse than bringing in Begovic as that stop-gap.
But I do agree with you: I'm unconvinced about him being exactly what we need as a #1 for this season.
Interesting that a good number of people are shooting Begovic down but were happy with Adam Davies who has been a number 2 for a few seasons now and only really done it at Barnsley (which keeper have we heard that about before???)
Don't think anyone is shooting Begovic down, more that just because he is a big name doesn't mean he will necessarily be a good fit.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I just don’t know about Begovic. I think some of the excitement I’ve seen is way overboard - are people just getting giddy because we haven’t had any signings in a couple of weeks?
Better than what we have in Isted & AMB probably. But doesn’t scream promotion goalkeeper at me. This feels more like a “NJ at Stoke” signing than it does “NJ at Luton” signing.
Hope I’m wrong if it does happen.
It feels like we didn't get our first, second or even third-choice goalkeeper so we're moving on to a short-term solution - then maybe we will revisit again next Summer. But we could probably do worse than bringing in Begovic as that stop-gap.
But I do agree with you: I'm unconvinced about him being exactly what we need as a #1 for this season.
Honestly don't think that's the case here, I think Begovic was identified earlier but not a goer for whatever reason (too much money, wanted to stay Champ or be a Prem No3) but things have changed.
One of those options were clearly Ruddy too, so even if he was higher up the list, he would be a short-term solution too.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I do get why they signed Mannion, because if we didn't, someone else probably would have and Jones clearly doesn't rate AMB or Isted. However, that's now a bit of a pickle where we've got 3 keepers, all of whom reasonable enough as No2 but not trusted to be No1 and relying on getting rid to sign one. Which we know hasn't worked out too well recently.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I wonder if a deal for Isted or AMB has fallen through as Davies looked set to sign when we had 3 keepers.
Begovic feels a bit like Ben Foster at Wrexham, might do for a season, but not sure he's at an age or skill level still to contend in the league above.
A 1 year deal, with a an option of another, may make sense from both a coaching of other keepers and to ensure he is still as good as we need him to be...
He was literally contending in the league above a few weeks ago.
In any case, if he gets us up and out of this miserable league in the coming season, then it won't matter.
Especially as while they didn't want him as their first choice next season, QPR still wanted him to stay. He's not someone being bombed out of QPR.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I still find it a bit surprising that so early on we brought in a new No 2 keeper, when we still had 2 keepers on our books. Yes players can get injured, but I don't think anyone would mind either AMB or Isted as the No 2, so long as the main keeper was a clear step up from them.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I wonder if a deal for Isted or AMB has fallen through as Davies looked set to sign when we had 3 keepers.
Possible that we have signed players since and not really got rid of anyone so the budget is up and we've got to reduce squad until we buy. Which is fair enough IMO as squad is way too big.
Are people Fawning over Begovic because he's a player we actually know and used to be good?
45 games in the Championship last season does excite me but he seems to get mixed reviews last season. Experienced keeper could be great for the defence and will help Mannion to come in as our number 1 soon, but something feels a bit off about it. I will ask my QPR mate his thoughts on him.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I wonder if a deal for Isted or AMB has fallen through as Davies looked set to sign when we had 3 keepers.
We can afford to lose one of them without a replacement in the short term.
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I wonder if a deal for Isted or AMB has fallen through as Davies looked set to sign when we had 3 keepers.
Davies was offered a new deal nothing to do with us
Keep up, I heard from a very close source but was a while ago, that he's not interested in playing full time anymore, age etc. He was looking for a number 2/3 keeper role...
I just don’t know about Begovic. I think some of the excitement I’ve seen is way overboard - are people just getting giddy because we haven’t had any signings in a couple of weeks?
Better than what we have in Isted & AMB probably. But doesn’t scream promotion goalkeeper at me. This feels more like a “NJ at Stoke” signing than it does “NJ at Luton” signing.
Hope I’m wrong if it does happen.
We can’t afford to take a punt on someone coming good. A GK that has played at the highest level who reads the game, commands his box and respect of his defence is vocal and has confidence through experience is exactly what’s required to win promotion.
I hope your description of him is right because that would make me wrong about this one. Just feels like another Ben Watson waiting to happen.
Hardest part of all this keeper saga seems to be getting shot of the dross first, and I am loathed to say that we will probably end up with said dross come the first game of the season, this is very much in the balance as to whether we will ever get this supposed No1 in at all...🤦♂️
Begovic is interest is correct, but not close from what I have been told. One of the keepers needs to go first, they don't want to be left with an inflated GK department. As I have been told, no offer has been made, but was given a tour.
I wonder if a deal for Isted or AMB has fallen through as Davies looked set to sign when we had 3 keepers.
Davies was offered a new deal nothing to do with us
That's the point.
If we wont have 4 keepers on the books, but had a deal in place for Davies until he u-turned, then either Begovic takes us over our salary budget and Davies which makes signing a 4h keeper an issue, or deal for a keeper to leave fell through.
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In any case, if he gets us up and out of this miserable league in the coming season, then it won't matter.
But I do agree with you: I'm unconvinced about him being exactly what we need as a #1 for this season.
One of those options were clearly Ruddy too, so even if he was higher up the list, he would be a short-term solution too.
I still find it a bit surprising that so early on we brought in a new No 2 keeper, when we still had 2 keepers on our books. Yes players can get injured, but I don't think anyone would mind either AMB or Isted as the No 2, so long as the main keeper was a clear step up from them.
If we wont have 4 keepers on the books, but had a deal in place for Davies until he u-turned, then either Begovic takes us over our salary budget and Davies which makes signing a 4h keeper an issue, or deal for a keeper to leave fell through.