Posters seem to be ignoring NJ history. He has a workman-like midfield and his creativity comes from wingbacks feeding two decent strikers. Why are people still bleating on about the need for a creative No 10 when we have half a dozen midfielders who have played at least one tier above our current level?
If we had right-footed LB/LWBs like last year, I'd be more concerned.
The style that Jones plays, in a similar way to Klopp’s Liverpool, also creates more chances than any creative midfielder ever would by winning the ball back high up the pitch in dangerous areas.
To quote Klopp himself “No playmaker in the world can be as good as good counter pressing”
The Liverpool midfield of Wijnaldum Fabinho and Henderson that saw so much success, didn’t have much creativity at all but had a lot of energy and physicality, and they won the ball back a lot in good areas and scored a lot of goals
Looking at our pre-season so far we’ve scored quite a few goals already from doing exactly that, win the ball back in a dangerous area and quickly score. Obviously we need other ways to score goals, but we don’t NEED a creative midfielder to be successful in Jones style
Well Gallen signed Fraser, he has turned out to be a multiple dud, so would you admit he is our highest paid player (£7200 a week on several sites) in a random conversation?
Would he say the same to Cawley with a recording playing?
Well I know who our highest paid is and its that figure, problem is I think we all know who that is, great player, sadly however his made from polystyrene. And it's not a random convo, I speak to Steve on a regular basis.
Fraser just looks like he is running in treacle all the time, fit or not. Think he's shot personally and needs moving on ASAP. Especially with the wages he is apparently on!
Not a rumour but wonder if we are considering Nathan Baxter at Bolton for our keeper position.
Originally from London.
Bolton have 3 senior keepers on their books including Southwold whom they signed this summer.
Baxter has 12 months left on his contract.
He also recently got a degree in history (not relevant but kinda impressive as not many footballers do that!).
Would definitely be on my list of targets. They completely fell apart when he got injured last season , one of the reasons we got anything up there was him not playing and their backline having no confidence in Coleman their no2. They wouldn't have signed Southwood from Cheltenham to just sit on the bench for the season so I'd stick a cheeky bid in for Baxter for sure.
This is the most recent info I can find on Baxter’s situation (and others) around two weeks ago.
Contract up next summer and won’t be offered a new one, yet. But at the same time, he’s considered no. 1 and it’ll take a decent offer for Bolton to let him go.
Most recent seasons we have relied on bolstering our squad with loan players. This worked out in the promotion season but otherwise has had lesser effectiveness.
The squad is looking stronger than a while and also high in numbers. Does anyone think that there are gaps in the squad that would warrant bringing in a decent loan player. Goal keeper (in the mould of Scott Carson) could be one but other than that I'm not sure
Most recent seasons we have relied on bolstering our squad with loan players. This worked out in the promotion season but otherwise has had lesser effectiveness.
The squad is looking stronger than a while and also high in numbers. Does anyone think that there are gaps in the squad that would warrant bringing in a decent loan player. Goal keeper (in the mould of Scott Carson) could be one but other than that I'm not sure
I think we are in the position where if we think there is a Gallagher or Rak -Sakyi available, you take them with open arms because they will be of a higher level to anything we have. If it is just to bulk the squad out, then I don't think we have any need, which shows the recruitment has been much better so far this year.
Probably out of reach but wonder if we could persuade Marek rodak to drop down. Released by Fulham and a very decent tall keeper.
How much would his wages be at Fulham though ? £15 - £20k at least ? Yes he will need to take a haircut with his next contract but I’d think the gap between what we’re able to offer and what he’d get from Championship clubs would make this a complete non starter even if he was interested in dropping two divisions. I’m filing this one as highly unlikely.
Probably out of reach but wonder if we could persuade Marek rodak to drop down. Released by Fulham and a very decent tall keeper.
How much would his wages be at Fulham though ? £15 - £20k at least ? Yes he will need to take a haircut with his next contract but I’d think the gap between what we’re able to offer and what he’d get from Championship clubs would make this a complete non starter even if he was interested in dropping two divisions. I’m filing this one as highly unlikely.
Charlie's penny pinching means we can't even match £15 a week, dark times ahead . I would love us to sign Rodak, if not so we can move on from this first choice goalkeeper conversation and get him in and working with the defence in front of him.
Probably out of reach but wonder if we could persuade Marek rodak to drop down. Released by Fulham and a very decent tall keeper.
I’ve seen reports that championship clubs are struggling with his wage demands so I can’t see it
Despite my post seemingly to the contrary, at some point Marek will need to lower his expectations or be without a club. The gap between what he’ll eventually get in The Championship and what we could offer is still way way too much.
I felt very good about our summer business 10-14 days ago and still do. I said then that the only missing piece was a goalkeeper, and that is still the case.
No need to panic yet but is starting to get to that time where it’s less than ideal that a player isn’t in the building yet. We need another defender and midfielder but neither are as critical as the goalkeeper.
Encouraged that Sinisalo was a target - he’d have been my first choice so a shame that he’s gone to Celtic.
Do we not also still need a creative midfielder who adds a goal threat? That for me would be a key signing.
I felt very good about our summer business 10-14 days ago and still do. I said then that the only missing piece was a goalkeeper, and that is still the case.
No need to panic yet but is starting to get to that time where it’s less than ideal that a player isn’t in the building yet. We need another defender and midfielder but neither are as critical as the goalkeeper.
Encouraged that Sinisalo was a target - he’d have been my first choice so a shame that he’s gone to Celtic.
Do we not also still need a creative midfielder who adds a goal threat? That for me would be a key signing.
Not necessarily. Jones style seems to favour high pressure and lots of pressing rather than intricate play to find the "right" pass - lots of crosses from wide and over the top for strikers to fight for rather than through balls that they run onto. Berry and Docherty both seem to quite like a ping from distance too so a goal threat there.
A playmaker type would be a nice addition as a Plan B but I really don't think it's something Jones is actively seeking.
I felt very good about our summer business 10-14 days ago and still do. I said then that the only missing piece was a goalkeeper, and that is still the case.
No need to panic yet but is starting to get to that time where it’s less than ideal that a player isn’t in the building yet. We need another defender and midfielder but neither are as critical as the goalkeeper.
Encouraged that Sinisalo was a target - he’d have been my first choice so a shame that he’s gone to Celtic.
Do we not also still need a creative midfielder who adds a goal threat? That for me would be a key signing.
I think Jones will expect goals from Berry and Docherty. They’re here to be regulars so I’m not convinced another midfielder will be an attacking one who’s also expected to be a starter.
I felt very good about our summer business 10-14 days ago and still do. I said then that the only missing piece was a goalkeeper, and that is still the case.
No need to panic yet but is starting to get to that time where it’s less than ideal that a player isn’t in the building yet. We need another defender and midfielder but neither are as critical as the goalkeeper.
Encouraged that Sinisalo was a target - he’d have been my first choice so a shame that he’s gone to Celtic.
Do we not also still need a creative midfielder who adds a goal threat? That for me would be a key signing.
Not necessarily. Jones style seems to favour high pressure and lots of pressing rather than intricate play to find the "right" pass - lots of crosses from wide and over the top for strikers to fight for rather than through balls that they run onto. Berry and Docherty both seem to quite like a ping from distance too so a goal threat there.
A playmaker type would be a nice addition as a Plan B but I really don't think it's something Jones is actively seeking.
Oh ok. I haven’t been following as closely as I’d like.
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The Liverpool midfield of Wijnaldum Fabinho and Henderson that saw so much success, didn’t have much creativity at all but had a lot of energy and physicality, and they won the ball back a lot in good areas and scored a lot of goals
Looking at our pre-season so far we’ve scored quite a few goals already from doing exactly that, win the ball back in a dangerous area and quickly score. Obviously we need other ways to score goals, but we don’t NEED a creative midfielder to be successful in Jones style
Originally from London.
Bolton have 3 senior keepers on their books including Southwold whom they signed this summer.
Baxter has 12 months left on his contract.
He also recently got a degree in history (not relevant but kinda impressive as not many footballers do that!).
Would definitely be on my list of targets. They completely fell apart when he got injured last season , one of the reasons we got anything up there was him not playing and their backline having no confidence in Coleman their no2. They wouldn't have signed Southwood from Cheltenham to just sit on the bench for the season so I'd stick a cheeky bid in for Baxter for sure.
Contract up next summer and won’t be offered a new one, yet. But at the same time, he’s considered no. 1 and it’ll take a decent offer for Bolton to let him go.
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24430356.bolton-wanderers-wait-contracts-10-first-team-stars/
The squad is looking stronger than a while and also high in numbers. Does anyone think that there are gaps in the squad that would warrant bringing in a decent loan player. Goal keeper (in the mould of Scott Carson) could be one but other than that I'm not sure
go on, put a cheeky bid in Nath;)
Locked on done deal FACT.
A playmaker type would be a nice addition as a Plan B but I really don't think it's something Jones is actively seeking.
We need a creative midfielder, can’t understand how this has been overlooked!