Bishop played 33 times last season, 21 were starts and he averaged 58 minutes per appearance.
22/23: 24 apps, 19 starts, 61 mins per app
21/22: 36 apps, 28 starts, 67 mins per app
20/21: 36 apps, 28 starts, 65 mins per app
He’d be fine as a squad player behind Berry, Docherty, Coventry who I fully expect to be the first choice three.
I reckon he’s an upgrade on Bakinson, Fraser, Louie Watson who all made 20-30 appearances for us last season.
I really hope we are going to use 3 strikers at times .
For some reason this always gets lost in translation but we will use 3 forwards/strikers/goal threats(more than 3 with midfielders in and around the box) but they won't all take up the central attacking position. In a 2 you would hope they play off each other and in a 3 one would go wider when needs must or the wing back is busy defending and not over lapping. Flexibility is the key and since when has football been a static game 🤔 Ok in England's group games ! In a league 1 I would be amazed if we copied Southgate and did a low block.
In a 4231, you’d play 4 attacking players . In a 352, you should be able to play at least 3. Last year , we seemed to play with 5 defenders and 3 defensively minded midfielders. I am not suggesting you play 3 central forwards that stand next to the last defender
Nathan Jones wants the two central strikers this season in Plan A in a 3-5-2 with wing backs. With Jones saying Campbell may play more central it's obvious the width will come from the wing backs or attacking backs(if 4 at back) this season plus the ability of the likes of Kanu to play like a Taylor and Grant who could play wide and central during a match depending on the needs and state of the game. We will need 4 players during the 100 minutes to play in the 2 up front so with Part time Chuks and still not fit Miles we need to perm any 4 from 6 strikers to occupy the front 2 positions
In many games I have watched Charlton play, the 4-2-3-1 didn't have 4 attacking players in as the 3 players behind the lone striker couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
What ever Nathan Jones decides on formations we need fit players with skill and movement and potentially 16 players on it come match day. I doubt want to hear the boys trained hard and then we are poor in games.
Q. As it stands who will be the number 1 keeper if no other keeper comes in or is it a Shay Given that a new keeper is on his way ?
I believe a new keeper has been identified but he won't be in Slovenia
Davies of Sheff Utd dicked us around apparently....an failed the medical. Everything happens for a reason I guess
Davies failed the medical or was it another keeper?
Delayed coming down, kept coming up with excuses, then failed the medical and so signed an extension at Sheff Utd.
I think I’m in a minority on here but I think AMB is a much better keeper than Isted. He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does ! The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it. His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
Bishop played 33 times last season, 21 were starts and he averaged 58 minutes per appearance.
22/23: 24 apps, 19 starts, 61 mins per app
21/22: 36 apps, 28 starts, 67 mins per app
20/21: 36 apps, 28 starts, 65 mins per app
He’d be fine as a squad player behind Berry, Docherty, Coventry who I fully expect to be the first choice three.
I reckon he’s an upgrade on Bakinson, Fraser, Louie Watson who all made 20-30 appearances for us last season.
I really hope we are going to use 3 strikers at times .
For some reason this always gets lost in translation but we will use 3 forwards/strikers/goal threats(more than 3 with midfielders in and around the box) but they won't all take up the central attacking position. In a 2 you would hope they play off each other and in a 3 one would go wider when needs must or the wing back is busy defending and not over lapping. Flexibility is the key and since when has football been a static game 🤔 Ok in England's group games ! In a league 1 I would be amazed if we copied Southgate and did a low block.
In a 4231, you’d play 4 attacking players . In a 352, you should be able to play at least 3. Last year , we seemed to play with 5 defenders and 3 defensively minded midfielders. I am not suggesting you play 3 central forwards that stand next to the last defender
Nathan Jones wants the two central strikers this season in Plan A in a 3-5-2 with wing backs. With Jones saying Campbell may play more central it's obvious the width will come from the wing backs or attacking backs(if 4 at back) this season plus the ability of the likes of Kanu to play like a Taylor and Grant who could play wide and central during a match depending on the needs and state of the game. We will need 4 players during the 100 minutes to play in the 2 up front so with Part time Chuks and still not fit Miles we need to perm any 4 from 6 strikers to occupy the front 2 positions
In many games I have watched Charlton play, the 4-2-3-1 didn't have 4 attacking players in as the 3 players behind the lone striker couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
What ever Nathan Jones decides on formations we need fit players with skill and movement and potentially 16 players on it come match day. I doubt want to hear the boys trained hard and then we are poor in games.
Q. As it stands who will be the number 1 keeper if no other keeper comes in or is it a Shay Given that a new keeper is on his way ?
I believe a new keeper has been identified but he won't be in Slovenia
Davies of Sheff Utd dicked us around apparently....an failed the medical. Everything happens for a reason I guess
Davies failed the medical or was it another keeper?
Delayed coming down, kept coming up with excuses, then failed the medical and so signed an extension at Sheff Utd.
I bet NJ didn't expect that behaviour from a player he previously brought in on a season long loan.
It does show that NJ isn't against the loan market. Some have misconstrued his words from an interview given last season.
Bishop played 33 times last season, 21 were starts and he averaged 58 minutes per appearance.
22/23: 24 apps, 19 starts, 61 mins per app
21/22: 36 apps, 28 starts, 67 mins per app
20/21: 36 apps, 28 starts, 65 mins per app
He’d be fine as a squad player behind Berry, Docherty, Coventry who I fully expect to be the first choice three.
I reckon he’s an upgrade on Bakinson, Fraser, Louie Watson who all made 20-30 appearances for us last season.
I really hope we are going to use 3 strikers at times .
For some reason this always gets lost in translation but we will use 3 forwards/strikers/goal threats(more than 3 with midfielders in and around the box) but they won't all take up the central attacking position. In a 2 you would hope they play off each other and in a 3 one would go wider when needs must or the wing back is busy defending and not over lapping. Flexibility is the key and since when has football been a static game 🤔 Ok in England's group games ! In a league 1 I would be amazed if we copied Southgate and did a low block.
In a 4231, you’d play 4 attacking players . In a 352, you should be able to play at least 3. Last year , we seemed to play with 5 defenders and 3 defensively minded midfielders. I am not suggesting you play 3 central forwards that stand next to the last defender
Nathan Jones wants the two central strikers this season in Plan A in a 3-5-2 with wing backs. With Jones saying Campbell may play more central it's obvious the width will come from the wing backs or attacking backs(if 4 at back) this season plus the ability of the likes of Kanu to play like a Taylor and Grant who could play wide and central during a match depending on the needs and state of the game. We will need 4 players during the 100 minutes to play in the 2 up front so with Part time Chuks and still not fit Miles we need to perm any 4 from 6 strikers to occupy the front 2 positions
In many games I have watched Charlton play, the 4-2-3-1 didn't have 4 attacking players in as the 3 players behind the lone striker couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
What ever Nathan Jones decides on formations we need fit players with skill and movement and potentially 16 players on it come match day. I doubt want to hear the boys trained hard and then we are poor in games.
Q. As it stands who will be the number 1 keeper if no other keeper comes in or is it a Shay Given that a new keeper is on his way ?
I believe a new keeper has been identified but he won't be in Slovenia
Davies of Sheff Utd dicked us around apparently....an failed the medical. Everything happens for a reason I guess
Davies failed the medical or was it another keeper?
Delayed coming down, kept coming up with excuses, then failed the medical and so signed an extension at Sheff Utd.
I think I’m in a minority on here but I think AMB is a much better keeper than Isted. He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does ! The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it. His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
Problem is that saving shots is literally all he does. And yes he's a keeper so saving shots is his job, but that's not ALL of his job in the current game.
Setting up attacks and getting things moving is part of his game. He doesn't do that well.
Organising and leading his defence is also part of his game. Not only does he NOT do this he seems to be actively making it worse as none of our defenders seem to know if he'll come for a ball or not in any given situation (to be fair, neither does he so you can't blame them.)
Those confident defenders would become much less so with him behind them. If we had to use two out of the three keepers we've currently got, AMB would be the one to go.... and that's not because I rate the other two highly.
Bishop played 33 times last season, 21 were starts and he averaged 58 minutes per appearance.
22/23: 24 apps, 19 starts, 61 mins per app
21/22: 36 apps, 28 starts, 67 mins per app
20/21: 36 apps, 28 starts, 65 mins per app
He’d be fine as a squad player behind Berry, Docherty, Coventry who I fully expect to be the first choice three.
I reckon he’s an upgrade on Bakinson, Fraser, Louie Watson who all made 20-30 appearances for us last season.
I really hope we are going to use 3 strikers at times .
For some reason this always gets lost in translation but we will use 3 forwards/strikers/goal threats(more than 3 with midfielders in and around the box) but they won't all take up the central attacking position. In a 2 you would hope they play off each other and in a 3 one would go wider when needs must or the wing back is busy defending and not over lapping. Flexibility is the key and since when has football been a static game 🤔 Ok in England's group games ! In a league 1 I would be amazed if we copied Southgate and did a low block.
In a 4231, you’d play 4 attacking players . In a 352, you should be able to play at least 3. Last year , we seemed to play with 5 defenders and 3 defensively minded midfielders. I am not suggesting you play 3 central forwards that stand next to the last defender
Nathan Jones wants the two central strikers this season in Plan A in a 3-5-2 with wing backs. With Jones saying Campbell may play more central it's obvious the width will come from the wing backs or attacking backs(if 4 at back) this season plus the ability of the likes of Kanu to play like a Taylor and Grant who could play wide and central during a match depending on the needs and state of the game. We will need 4 players during the 100 minutes to play in the 2 up front so with Part time Chuks and still not fit Miles we need to perm any 4 from 6 strikers to occupy the front 2 positions
In many games I have watched Charlton play, the 4-2-3-1 didn't have 4 attacking players in as the 3 players behind the lone striker couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
What ever Nathan Jones decides on formations we need fit players with skill and movement and potentially 16 players on it come match day. I doubt want to hear the boys trained hard and then we are poor in games.
Q. As it stands who will be the number 1 keeper if no other keeper comes in or is it a Shay Given that a new keeper is on his way ?
I believe a new keeper has been identified but he won't be in Slovenia
Davies of Sheff Utd dicked us around apparently....an failed the medical. Everything happens for a reason I guess
I really hope it's not Lumley in the cross hairs as some have suggested
I think I’m in a minority on here but I think AMB is a much better keeper than Isted. He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does ! The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it. His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
Problem is that saving shots is literally all he does. And yes he's a keeper so saving shots is his job, but that's not ALL of his job in the current game.
Setting up attacks and getting things moving is part of his game. He doesn't do that well.
Organising and leading his defence is also part of his game. Not only does he NOT do this he seems to be actively making it worse as none of our defenders seem to know if he'll come for a ball or not in any given situation (to be fair, neither does he so you can't blame them.)
Those confident defenders would become much less so with him behind them. If we had to use two out of the three keepers we've currently got, AMB would be the one to go.... and that's not because I rate the other two highly.
AMB isn't even good at saving shots though.
AMB save percentage last season 66%. 41 conceded in 25 games. 2 clean sheets.
Isted save percentage last season 68%. 24 conceded in 21 games. 3 clean sheets.
Mannion save percentage last season 73%. 15 conceded in 14 games. 4 clean sheets.
I think I’m in a minority on here but I think AMB is a much better keeper than Isted. He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does ! The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it. His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
AMB has great reflexes and that's it. I reckon he could dodge a bullet shot out of a gun if it was near enough but anything outside of the box he's useless at. I actually think overall he's a really poor keeper. His communication and organisation skills are terrible, he seems to make the defenders around him more jittery with his presence. I don't care so much about distribution at L1 level but his is very poor. He makes bizarre, rash decisions and he gets hurt a lot more than a keeper should, I think the line between bravery and poor judgement is non-existent with him. I'd hoped for more from Isted than we got but despite him being fairly poor he still managed to keep more clean sheets than AMB in fewer games and our team looked visibly calmer with him there. You can argue that we had improved personnel and a new manager but there's a reason Jones chose him in the first place.
25 appearances last season. 41 conceded and two clean sheets is incredibly poor. He was dropped early on in the season and our results immediately improved before he was forced back in and was part of a defence that would concede late on without fail, you could feel the nerves at the back every time. Isted conceded 24 goals in 21 games with 3 clean sheets and no-one even rates him either. I don't want either of them in goal for us but you could put a mop with a face drawn on it in goal and it would probably deflect the odd shot and concede a load, and it would communicate as much, come for as many crosses and cost a lot less in wages than AMB.
AMB has the "youth player" bias, he's just as, if not more shit than Isted. Both aren't good enough for a promotion chasing team but at least Isted is average to below across all attributes, AMB is a slightly above average shot stopper and is terrible at everything else
Let’s face it. Jones has signed Mannion and has made it clear he’s looking for a number 1. That’s about as clear as it can get that both AMB and Isted are not required. The failure to sign Ruddy or Davies has meant the two of them are still around but if or as soon as our new target is signed then I can see both going.
I think I’m in a minority on here but I think AMB is a much better keeper than Isted. He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does ! The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it. His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
Problem is that saving shots is literally all he does. And yes he's a keeper so saving shots is his job, but that's not ALL of his job in the current game.
Setting up attacks and getting things moving is part of his game. He doesn't do that well.
Organising and leading his defence is also part of his game. Not only does he NOT do this he seems to be actively making it worse as none of our defenders seem to know if he'll come for a ball or not in any given situation (to be fair, neither does he so you can't blame them.)
Those confident defenders would become much less so with him behind them. If we had to use two out of the three keepers we've currently got, AMB would be the one to go.... and that's not because I rate the other two highly.
AMB isn't even good at saving shots though.
AMB save percentage last season 66%. 41 conceded in 25 games. 2 clean sheets.
Isted save percentage last season 68%. 24 conceded in 21 games. 3 clean sheets.
Mannion save percentage last season 73%. 15 conceded in 14 games. 4 clean sheets.
I think Isted's save percentage is a bit deceptive. His issue wasn't really making the saves last season, it was a tendency to push the saves back into dangerous areas
I think I’m in a minority on here but I think AMB is a much better keeper than Isted. He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does ! The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it. His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
I'm a bigger fan of AMB than Isted and I know when Rob Elliot was back training with us he said his probably the best young keeper his worked with. Probably my biggest gripe i had with him barring distribution is how he was not vocal at all. You never hear him. Personally I want my keeper to be barking at his team mates, he has the best view of the pitch, so can highlight things to them. Neither he nor Isted were and I think that's a real issue
AMB is OK. He can be incredibly slow to distibute the ball. He also dwells on the ball too long and appears to be wasting time even when we are losing! If he could improve his distribution and speed up a bit he'd be fine (IMO).
I think AMB is a lot better than people give him credit for and I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a similar career trajectory to Nick Pope, albeit nowhere near as spectacular.
AMB is a good shot stopper but does not command the 6 yard box. If he can be coached to be more vocal with his defenders, more aggressive coming for high balls, etc. he'd be a much better proposition.
AMB has the "youth player" bias, he's just as, if not more shit than Isted. Both aren't good enough for a promotion chasing team but at least Isted is average to below across all attributes, AMB is a slightly above average shot stopper and is terrible at everything else
Agreed, if we had bought AMB from Lincoln he’d get a lot more stick.
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Seen him mentioned a few times
He saves shots whereas Isted pretty much never does !
The mask thing is not helpful, it would be much better if he could play without it.
His distribution is a weakness but with better more confident defenders around him that would improve.
It does show that NJ isn't against the loan market. Some have misconstrued his words from an interview given last season.
Setting up attacks and getting things moving is part of his game. He doesn't do that well.
Organising and leading his defence is also part of his game. Not only does he NOT do this he seems to be actively making it worse as none of our defenders seem to know if he'll come for a ball or not in any given situation (to be fair, neither does he so you can't blame them.)
Those confident defenders would become much less so with him behind them. If we had to use two out of the three keepers we've currently got, AMB would be the one to go.... and that's not because I rate the other two highly.
AMB isn't even good at saving shots though.
AMB save percentage last season 66%. 41 conceded in 25 games. 2 clean sheets.
Isted save percentage last season 68%. 24 conceded in 21 games. 3 clean sheets.
Mannion save percentage last season 73%. 15 conceded in 14 games. 4 clean sheets.
Anyone got any opinions, surprised there’s been no discussion?
AMB and Istead are not up to it
The disabled sticker on his car was a clue and the guide dog.