First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad.
The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad.
The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win
I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year
Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants.
Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too.
Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc.
I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it.
So I had a chat with Gallen a couple of weeks ago, adkins was promised the world by TS and given very little, so I'm giving him a pass on this, however Appleton Jacko and Holden were not the answer. Personally I'd love nothing more than for us to sack him and bring in Tony Mowbary. He personally for me is the man for the job. Look at what he has done with young players at Blackburn and Sunderland, he is perfect for us
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad.
The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win
I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January.
That maybe true, but a decent manager would be getting more out of them.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
10 draws mate in around 20 games managed, blokes never achieved at this level.
Losing a play off final doesn't cut it for me. Jack Ross did that for Sunderland and he was pants
IIRC, his issue with Lincoln as well was that he drew too many games
I think that was the reason Blackpool let him go as well.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year
Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants.
Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too.
Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc.
I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it.
So I had a chat with Gallen a couple of weeks ago, adkins was promised the world by TS and given very little, so I'm giving him a pass on this, however Appleton Jacko and Holden were not the answer. Personally I'd love nothing more than for us to sack him and bring in Tony Mowbary. He personally for me is the man for the job. Look at what he has done with young players at Blackburn and Sunderland, he is perfect for us
The same Tony Mowbray who called us a small club when he was at Boro? Would he not consider us beneath him?
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad.
The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win
I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January.
That maybe true, but a decent manager would be getting more out of them.
Sometimes players just don’t have the drive to give 100% every game. Attitude is just as important as ability. Something Curbs knew very well. I don’t think we have enough of those type of player. Look at Charlie Kirk. Undoubtedly a decent footballer but couldn’t drag himself to the application needed. Why ? I don’t blame Appleton for the players we have. I’ll judge him this time next season.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad.
The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win
I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January.
That maybe true, but a decent manager would be getting more out of them.
Exactly - just possible the formation doesn’t suit them ?
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year
Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants.
Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too.
Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc.
I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it.
To be honest I don't know who you expect would take the managers job if it was offered. We are mid table league one..
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
Since chucks and leaburn git injured he’s been up against it, no doubt - however, there is plenty he could have done better and if he’s wedded to 433 that’s good enough for me to say goodbye - absolutely bored of it - might be okay for Liverpool and other top sides but has never worked for us and to persist with it without a physical mobile centre forward is cretinous
Talking to a pal yesterday at the game, whose been doing some work with the club the last few weeks, couple of very well known club employees told him money is being spent in January and the owners are determined to give it a push for the play offs. Dont shoot the messenger
Just seems bizarre that we didn’t use this in the summer if the money is there? Now it’s too late
Agree with this, as I think mendez said on Charlton live, the owners knew they would be in charge so why was there no plan in place for transfers in the summer.
Underestimating what’s required like most recent ownerships we’ve had tend to do?
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
Compare our squad, even with the injuries, to the teams we’ve been playing against, Burton, Cheltenham, Carlisle, Cambridge and I think there are plenty of managers that would do better
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
Wasn’t he brought in to bring our younger players on ? Apparently has a great reputation developing younger players.
all of ours are playing worse than when he first came in. The only exception maybe Kanu , and he has been away for a number of weeks.
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
Xmas Eve so I'm going to be positive. We will bring in 4 or 5 players and Appleton will make them gel within a month. February, where we play Derby (twice), Bolton and Pompey, we will win all our games & finish the end of the month (my birthday) in the top 6.
and yes, I might have been at the xmas sherry...........
The last few games where we have thrown points away are completely demoralising that can't be argued with. However, as I've said before, if we sack MA, who do those people calling for his head expect to come in? We are a mid-table League One club that, recenltly, seem to sack managers every 6 months! Hardly going to have a queue of top quality managers lining up are we! Let's give MA this transfer window to get his type of player in, if it works then happy days, if it doesn't then he'll be gone, but changing again now is the wrong move. Let's see, after all the talk from Scott, whether the Owners splash the cash, no one on here, or in our fanbase knows what's going to happen until January comes, we have those saying they won't, others saying they've heard they will, as for me I don't know, but we only have 10 days to wait! However MA needs to get some backbone into what we currently have and get 3 wins, starting at Orient on Boxing Day!
We didn’t throw points away v Cambridge that was the ref not our players
Are you having a laugh? Marking from the corner non-existent, we should've scored more than 2 and didn't, but at the end we were hanging on!! FFS
And that made the score 2-1 I believe …. before the REF gave them a gift
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
Ridiculous suggestion to sack Appleton. Start by sack the recruitment team.
Yeah I've also questioned them on a number of occasions. When/if we replace them though, the last thing I want is it to be wasted on a manager who has us playing without an identity other than scared, bore draw merchants.
In an ideal world they all go as a package deal and it's a clean slate.
If Scott is serious, we will do our business early, but I expect most of our loans to go back and then some panic freebies and loans and then him marvelling at the business we've done. Also expect dobo and CBT to leave. Clubs a fucking shambles
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
Compare our squad, even with the injuries, to the teams we’ve been playing against, Burton, Cheltenham, Carlisle, Cambridge and I think there are plenty of managers that would do better
Can’t do better than winning … v Cheltenham who at the time were one of the form teams .. Cambridge you can’t blame a manager for a ref blunder that would have been 2-1 .
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
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We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Let's be honest, the bloke is crap. WIth what we have he should be doing better. Even I wouldn't play our best player on the right wing.
He isn’t going to be sacked anytime soon, not with the window about to open. You have to hope there is some kind of plan, and a few decent signings lined up. We live in hope.
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
He has managed bigger clubs than us so not quite sure we are too big a job for him. We have been a lacklustre underfumded mid table league one side with poor recruitment for a while now. The Northampton and Stockport managers turned us down. Unfortunately this is the calibre of managers we can attract these days.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
He has managed bigger clubs than us so not quite sure we are too big a job for him. We have been a lacklustre underfumded mid table league one side with poor recruitment for a while now. The Northampton and Stockport managers turned us down. Unfortunately this is the calibre of managers we can attract these days.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
He has managed bigger clubs than us so not quite sure we are too big a job for him. We have been a lacklustre underfumded mid table league one side with poor recruitment for a while now. The Northampton and Stockport managers turned us down. Unfortunately this is the calibre of managers we can attract these days.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
He has managed bigger clubs than us so not quite sure we are too big a job for him. We have been a lacklustre underfumded mid table league one side with poor recruitment for a while now. The Northampton and Stockport managers turned us down. Unfortunately this is the calibre of managers we can attract these days.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season
Bigger than us? Prey tell.
West Brom, Leicester, Blackburn and arguably Portsmouth. I am starting to think some of our fans still live in early 2000s, we have been a poor to average side with a couple of seasons of brilliance for close to 20 years now. This rebuild job will take some time and require patience which I think given our ownership woes in recent years, a lot of our fans are short on.
First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season
His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.
It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.
Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table.
We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.
23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more
We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see
But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived!
I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.
Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad.
The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win
I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January.
That maybe true, but a decent manager would be getting more out of them.
Sometimes players just don’t have the drive to give 100% every game. Attitude is just as important as ability. Something Curbs knew very well. I don’t think we have enough of those type of player. Look at Charlie Kirk. Undoubtedly a decent footballer but couldn’t drag himself to the application needed. Why ? I don’t blame Appleton for the players we have. I’ll judge him this time next season.
Charlie Kirk, a decent footballer 😀. Now that has made my Christmas. He is totally crap.
I think it’s hard to judge Appleton when the squad is poor and a lot of injuries. If we have a decent January he can be judged from Feb onwards. Personally don’t think many managers would get much more from our current squad.
Compare our squad, even with the injuries, to the teams we’ve been playing against, Burton, Cheltenham, Carlisle, Cambridge and I think there are plenty of managers that would do better
Can’t do better than winning … v Cheltenham who at the time were one of the form teams .. Cambridge you can’t blame a manager for a ref blunder that would have been 2-1 .
Same for the Barnsley draw. Penalty for handball not given and their goal shouldn't have stood.
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
He has managed bigger clubs than us so not quite sure we are too big a job for him. We have been a lacklustre underfumded mid table league one side with poor recruitment for a while now. The Northampton and Stockport managers turned us down. Unfortunately this is the calibre of managers we can attract these days.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season
What bigger clubs than us has he managed? Lincoln? Blackpool? Oxford?
Someone who isn't terrified of losing would be a start. At home to one of the worst teams in the league and we need wins to even have a sniff at play offs. Doesn't even send up every man to have a chance at stealing the game as he's clearly happy with his bore draws.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
He has managed bigger clubs than us so not quite sure we are too big a job for him. We have been a lacklustre underfumded mid table league one side with poor recruitment for a while now. The Northampton and Stockport managers turned us down. Unfortunately this is the calibre of managers we can attract these days.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season
Bigger than us? Prey tell.
Portsmouth and Blackburn
Wouldn't class either as bigger than us, on a par probably yes.
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I think that was the reason Blackpool let him go as well.
I think every manager I'd want wouldn't come to us, but I don't believe for a minute we can't get a better manager. There is definitely someone out there who can do better than him. He's fortunately landed on the journeyman manager carousel and he will never cement himself anywhere. He'll always get a job at a desperate club who are too afraid to take a risk.
We are too big of a job for him. Look at his record away from here. More losses than wins everywhere except Oxford in league 2. His draw record is staggering. One of the most uninspiring Charlton managers I've ever seen.
I'd rather us flirt with relegation at this point for something to play for, being middle of the pack in league 1 is absolutely dire.
all of ours are playing worse than when he first came in. The only exception maybe Kanu , and he has been away for a number of weeks.
and yes, I might have been at the xmas sherry...........
In an ideal world they all go as a package deal and it's a clean slate.
We live in hope.
He’s a draw specialist who can’t close out games but bore draws is a bit harsh. Our games have the 4th highest amount of goals in this season