I think it's time to stop thinking about this window in the context of this season and think longer term (plus some good loans).
We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".
Fraser is far from perfect but think he gets a bit of a hard time on here. He will always show for the ball and has a decent creative spark. He needs to do it more often but he’s not a bad player.
Not a bad player I agree. But, as you say, he doesn’t do it enough and there’s little sign he’s suddenly going to start doing it more often. He’s a classic mid table player and we need to move beyond his ilk if we’re going to progress.
Fraser is far from perfect but think he gets a bit of a hard time on here. He will always show for the ball and has a decent creative spark. He needs to do it more often but he’s not a bad player.
But we don't need players who are "not bad." We need players who are consistently good. We need Alfie May types who play as well and put in the same effort against Cray Paper Mills and Bolton.
Fraser is okay and maybe as a squad player he'd be alright. But for him to be in and around the first team so much says a lot about why we're midtable and not going anywhere just yet.
I think it's time to stop thinking about this window in the context of this season and think longer term (plus some good loans).
We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".
I agree with this. But in recent years we’ve not had owners who are willing to do this, and who would actually be astute enough to be successful at it anyway.
Plus our fan base as a whole wouldn’t really accept anything more than top 6 I imagine.
For me though on the whole we seem to endlessly go into most transfer windows with a different manager, wanting different style players, to play either a totally different formation or in a different way. Hoping that eventually we will land on the right formula.
I would much prefer that the club had an ethos and style of play it wanted to stick to, and recruited young talented players to fit that style. Then picked the right coach who aligns with that, and if it goes wrong (which it might because football is not easy), then the next coach in will be ‘cut from the same cloth’ as it were.
Then again I have played way to much football manager this year.
To be honest I don't blame for waiting to see if the owners walk the walk in the transfer window. We have heard the talk now go out and do something.
Agreed, it has to be the right deal for both parties!
As I mentioned, if we have a good start to the window, I think they will sign. If not, a replace will be found, and would be sold. Can't see them going for free in the summer!
Again they are really raising expectations for this window. I’ll believe it when I see it, just seems odd that they are going to go big now when surely it would have made a lot more sense to do so in the summer?
Fraser is far from perfect but think he gets a bit of a hard time on here. He will always show for the ball and has a decent creative spark. He needs to do it more often but he’s not a bad player.
Anyone can show for the ball. He’s a top earner and we need him to contribute more goals and assists. In a similar way to how CBT has raised his game.
11 points off the play offs now and I don't see us catching Bolton anyway so 12 points of Stevenage as a more realistic team to catch I guess.
2 games in hand over Stevenage too
Win them both we are still 6 points behind, beat them in the return tie and still 3. I highly doubt we will go on the type of run to catch them and they would have to drop off quite a bit.
The team more likely to do it is Barnsley who we are 7 points behind with the same number of games played. That's why beating them would have been massive.
Agree. I got LoLs a couple of weeks back when I said this season has gone. It has, I think.
We’re too far behind without a settled team and style of play that would lead to a swaggering run - and it also relies on too many teams slipping up.
Disgraceful that this club will bob around AGAIN in the third division but it’s about building for next season now and getting an identity to take into it. And that’s why this transfer window is bigger than I think we realise. It’s a big part of that run up to next season. Bed players in now and start the momentum into 2024/25, when we MUST get out of League 1.
Can’t disagree with any of that, but we’ve been saying this season after season, and we still get nowhere, time and time again.
Fraser is far from perfect but think he gets a bit of a hard time on here. He will always show for the ball and has a decent creative spark. He needs to do it more often but he’s not a bad player.
I think tve fact that he hasn’t got a single goal or assist after 20 matches tells a story; our creative lynchpin should be doing better than that really. And the way he is so easily knocked off the ball doesn't help as well.
Interesting comments from Scott but the proof is in the business we end up doing. Our last few January signings when we've spent fees haven't really worked out (Fraser , Aneke, DJ).
Also hope Chem Campbell doesn't go back to Wolves, think he's got something to offer.
I'm ambivalent. I hope we keep hold of them until the end of the season, because I think if we lose both in January it could destabilise us too much. They are both probably vying for second place in POTY behind May. Beyond that I don't give a shit if they go in the summer.
Gonna be a hard sell getting any decent permanents in at the moment isn't it? Have to hope for a few more wins or players will look at us as mid table nothingness.
Well you can’t argue with anything Scott has said can you. It’s obvious that there is intent and willingness from the owners and management to push ahead. Hopefully they spend wisely and it all works out. No more injury prone gambles please
Well you can’t argue with anything Scott has said can you. It’s obvious that there is intent and willingness from the owners and management to push ahead. Hopefully they spend wisely and it all works out. No more injury prone gambles please
Unfortunately this is groundhog day though. Scott says many things that on the face of it seem very reasonable and sensible...
Well you can’t argue with anything Scott has said can you. It’s obvious that there is intent and willingness from the owners and management to push ahead. Hopefully they spend wisely and it all works out. No more injury prone gambles please
Unfortunately this is groundhog day though. Scott says many things that on the face of it seem very reasonable and sensible...
... and then does nothing of the sort.
I’m not defending the bloke as the just is still out for me with this lot but I can’t think of anything that he has said that hasn’t happened where it was within his control
I think Fraser plays because he can kick a football with his left foot. Not many others in our squad are natural left footed players. Fraser does not strike me as a player hungry or determined to win.
Making the play offs is still possible I believe fuelled by a strong transfer window. So far, we've learned nothing about our owners from the window because it isn't open yet, the only business done seeing Kirk leave the Club in advance of it, a sensible move with the current owners not responsible for signing him.
Until we see that first signing, how can anyone form an opinion other than one based on continuation of past trends, which we've been assured will change, but many won't believe that until they see it having been deceived before. So we have to wait and see. What else can we do? Jump to conclusions based on questionable speculation????
Making automatic promotion is still mathematically possible. I am judging this Methven regime by results, and they’re not good enough for automatic promotion as it stands. We have to make up around a dozen lost points, which means winning every home game, and six of our away games and drawing the rest. Results like that lead to a positive judgement from me.
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We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".
Fraser is okay and maybe as a squad player he'd be alright. But for him to be in and around the first team so much says a lot about why we're midtable and not going anywhere just yet.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-transfer-chief-hoping-incoming-business-will-help-to-tie-down-blackett-taylor-and-dobson/
Plus our fan base as a whole wouldn’t really accept anything more than top 6 I imagine.
For me though on the whole we seem to endlessly go into most transfer windows with a different manager, wanting different style players, to play either a totally different formation or in a different way. Hoping that eventually we will land on the right formula.
I would much prefer that the club had an ethos and style of play it wanted to stick to, and recruited young talented players to fit that style. Then picked the right coach who aligns with that, and if it goes wrong (which it might because football is not easy), then the next coach in will be ‘cut from the same cloth’ as it were.
Then again I have played way to much football manager this year.
That's why the top six have so many points.
Unfortunately we have been mostly crap so far.
As I mentioned, if we have a good start to the window, I think they will sign. If not, a replace will be found, and would be sold. Can't see them going for free in the summer!
"Scott’s priority is to try and bring in permanent signings rather than going down the loan route."
Also hope Chem Campbell doesn't go back to Wolves, think he's got something to offer.
I hope we keep hold of them until the end of the season, because I think if we lose both in January it could destabilise us too much.
They are both probably vying for second place in POTY behind May.
Beyond that I don't give a shit if they go in the summer.
... and then does nothing of the sort.
Not many others in our squad are natural left footed players.
Fraser does not strike me as a player hungry or determined to win.
Until we see that first signing, how can anyone form an opinion other than one based on continuation of past trends, which we've been assured will change, but many won't believe that until they see it having been deceived before. So we have to wait and see. What else can we do? Jump to conclusions based on questionable speculation????
I am judging this Methven regime by results, and they’re not good enough for automatic promotion as it stands.
We have to make up around a dozen lost points, which means winning every home game, and six of our away games and drawing the rest.
Results like that lead to a positive judgement from me.