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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • I would be quite shocked if we do not go in for a new keeper. You can argue about centre back options but i think we badly need this area sorted too.
  • I think we also need an older head. Recruitment isn't just about bringing in hungry 20 somethings with a resale value, you do need some experience, someone with genuine leadership skills when the youngsters are getting a bit "frantic". 

    Of course this has to be the right person, someone still with hunger, rather than someone physically clapped out or mentally "retired", looking for a final payday.
    Absolutely agree. My ideal window includes two centre backs.

    If one was to be Taylor from WBA, the other has to have leadership qualities in the Jason Pearce mold.
    Look no further 


    Don't necessarily disagree, but I can't see us signing two 30 + centre backs.

    One will need to be left footed as well.
  • sam3110 said:
    I think we also need an older head. Recruitment isn't just about bringing in hungry 20 somethings with a resale value, you do need some experience, someone with genuine leadership skills when the youngsters are getting a bit "frantic". 

    Of course this has to be the right person, someone still with hunger, rather than someone physically clapped out or mentally "retired", looking for a final payday.
    Absolutely agree. My ideal window includes two centre backs.

    If one was to be Taylor from WBA, the other has to have leadership qualities in the Jason Pearce mold.
    Look no further 


    Both having the form of their career, which they won't replicate again, especially not at a new team IMO
    Like Alfie May? 

    We need a leader, we need a tough centre back, both fit that role. In an ideal league 1 world, I'd have them both and played a 5 back with Jones.

    All nonsense by me anyway as Piergianni isn't gonna leave Steveange for us when they're in a better position and we wouldn't pay for Dunkley. The Crewe centre back is probably more realistic 
  • fenaddick said:
    I always question why someone is available for loan in January, it usually suggests something has gone wrong in the first half of the season
    There is the alternative of poaching someone who has done well on loan in the first half of the season elsewhere at a smaller club. 

    That happened when Arsenal recalled Matt Smith from Doncaster and sent him to us instead, and also when we lost Conor Gallagher to Swansea.
    Or maybe someone who hasn't had much game time with a Championship loan.
  • edited December 2023
    Ness has regressed, while Deji isn't ready either, so we do need another CB anyway. Especially if we want to play 3 at the back.
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  • Another centre-half, sure. But what'll really fire us up the table is a mobile, technical and powerful midfielder, a forward who isn't shit*, and a winger who shows a bit of application

    *this one most of all
  • Oh and full-backs who can both defend and get forward, with apologies to T Watson's recent improvement and Edun's fitful form 
  • Leuth said:
    Another centre-half, sure. But what'll really fire us up the table is a mobile, technical and powerful midfielder, a forward who isn't shit*, and a winger who shows a bit of application

    *this one most of all
    Our problem isn't scoring goals!!!!!
    Check the stats!
  • supaclive said:
    Leuth said:
    Another centre-half, sure. But what'll really fire us up the table is a mobile, technical and powerful midfielder, a forward who isn't shit*, and a winger who shows a bit of application

    *this one most of all
    Our problem isn't scoring goals!!!!!
    Check the stats!
    With or without either Leaburn or Aneke make for grim reading. I'm slightly amazed we conjured two versus Cambridge.

    But above all, a forward who can make the ball stick makes a huge difference defensively. No, really
  • In fact @Leuth

    The clean sheet table once again (Thanks @Callumcafc)

    . Stevenage (10)
    2. Derby, Portsmouth, Blackpool, Peterborough (9)
    6. Barnsley, Bolton, Lincoln, Cambridge (8)
    10. Shrewsbury (7)
    11. Wigan, Oxford, Exeter, Port Vale (6)
    15. Orient, Wycombe, Northampton (5)
    18. Burton (4)
    19. Reading, Charlton, Bristol Rovers, Fleetwood, Cheltenham (3)
    24. Carlisle (1)
  • I think Hector has done much better in recent weeks but I just don't believe Thomas is good enough for the level we are hoping to be so we need at least one more quality CB since none of the youngters in that position look ready to play regular. 

    Hopefully Thomas proves me wrong though as from what Appleton said, seems like Jones is out until after christmas so it will be Thomas and Hector for the Barnsley & Burton matches at the very least. 
  • Chunes said:
    Ness should be moved on IMO, for a nominal fee if anything. He's not at the required level and if we can bring in a top-quality CB to push or upgrade Hector & Jones, then it can only be positive. 
    I agree we need one at this time
    I hope Ness gets back to Ness of when he broke through but maybe that isn't possible, sadly.
  • IF CBT moves on, then a 352 might work best for us. Our full backs seem better going forward than defending, while May would then have a strike partner.

    That would require another CB and another striker at least, but no out and out wingers.
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  • Ness has regressed, while Deji isn't ready either, so we do need another CB anyway. Especially if we want to play 3 at the back.
    How did you arrive at this conclusion 🤔. 
  • I think Ness needs a loan in League 2 along with Anderson. Just go and get regular games for the second half of the season and see how it goes really, one to then reassess in the summer.

    Only mentioned Anderson going out because I wasn't overly sure on when Taylor is due back? Mcgrandles I know is 4-6 weeks. 
  • Leuth said:
    We have a 30+ centre-back. He's been voted MOTM by our fans two games running and cut out his errors. He's also by quite a long way better on the ball than either Piergianni or Dunkley. Jones will be back before too long and Thomas is an able deputy. We have other much more pressing priorities. Full-back, wing, maybe central midfield and hell, up front, for example 
    We are looking at 4 players one is a centre half ( (yes the one at WBA ) and one is the striker we tied to sign in summer … the other two targets may have changed given our injury situation 
  • IF CBT moves on, then a 352 might work best for us. Our full backs seem better going forward than defending, while May would then have a strike partner.

    That would require another CB and another striker at least, but no out and out wingers.
    With T Watson and Edun I agree but still think May will play a deeper role ….. trying to play 433 when we don’t have good enough wingers is killing us 
  • edited December 2023
    NabySarr said:
    I think we also need an older head. Recruitment isn't just about bringing in hungry 20 somethings with a resale value, you do need some experience, someone with genuine leadership skills when the youngsters are getting a bit "frantic". 

    Of course this has to be the right person, someone still with hunger, rather than someone physically clapped out or mentally "retired", looking for a final payday.
    Absolutely agree. My ideal window includes two centre backs.

    If one was to be Taylor from WBA, the other has to have leadership qualities in the Jason Pearce mold.
    Look no further 


    Compared to other CBs in league 1, Piergianni is in the bottom 1% and Dunkley the bottom 8% for pass accuracy. Would be 2 signings over the age of 30 that don’t fit how we want to play football. 

    Surely we’ve learned by now that we need to recruit players to fit the way we are playing? It’s not just about signing good players, we need good players that fit the style/system. Caleb Taylor is a much better signing for us than either of them 
    Miles Leaburn has even worse than Piergianni? Who cares, they're efficient in what they are meant to do, keep that ball out of that onion bag. We lack fighters and heart. We aren't Man City and we won't be holding on to any centre backs that make 90% of their passes and can defend (like Ronnie Edwards) they'll be sold. 

    30? Even better, our best player by a mile is 30 and puts in a shift more than most of these lot. Sign more 30 year olds if you ask me.

    Yes, Caleb Taylor on loan, with less than 40 senior mens team appearances, is what we need to sort this bottleless team out. Not two centre backs who occupy 4th and 6th highest ratings in the league on whoscored. Alfie May 10th for context and we know the performances he puts in. 

    Not saying Caleb Taylor is bad, I don't even know him, I just think we need experience right now. 

    It's making a lot of sense that your username is Naby Sarr unless that's irony 😂
  • We need to be signing players around the age of 25/26 who have the experience, the ability to step up a level and whom we can plan around for the next two or three years. Dunkirk and Pietgianni are not them. Depending what happens the next three games if we are still ten points or more off the play offs come 1st Jan then we are basically planning for next season.
    Alfie May is 30, has the ability to step up (arguably the only one) and will be around for 3 years.

    I am genuinely failing to see the difference with Alf and a centre back that's 30. If anything the older centre backs have more longevity?

    Imo we build a team around May for the short-mid term future and try and get promoted with that squad. We won't be able to build a team with early 20s players, that's football manager stuff, they'll be sold in an instant before we can even build a team.
  • edited December 2023
    Strikers generally have low pass accuracy, much lower than CBs

    I don't think we'll be signing any CB who isn't comfortable on the ball.
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