Assuming that link on players salaries, shared the other day, was correct, off loading Kirk with save £5k a week, not sure where Stockley was on it, but woulda thought he'd be on around the same
Very doubtful that a club would pay 100% wages on a loan player.
Assuming that link on players salaries, shared the other day, was correct, off loading Kirk with save £5k a week, not sure where Stockley was on it, but woulda thought he'd be on around the same
It only saves 5k a week if Burton pay all of it...
It's mad that we've got so many players in some positions that we're having to trim the squad and yet we only had one senior left-back at the start of the season.
All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433.
Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.
That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433.
Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.
That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
He's a 19 year old kid. I wouldn't want to play him every week if JRS or CBT got injured. We NEED more cover than that.
All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433.
Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.
That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
He's a 19 year old kid. I wouldn't want to play him every week if JRS or CBT got injured. We NEED more cover than that.
I'd agree with you if we weren't a league one club losing £8 million per year.
We're really not going to sign another winger in those circumstances, particularly when you see Campbell looks promising.
If Stockley goes, on loan or permanent, we will need another striker, we only have two plus Aneke. I am not counting Kanu, as I do not think he is ready. If Kirk and/or DJ goes, we should be OK with Campbell. Payne could always play wide if need be or Clare
It's mad that we've got so many players in some positions that we're having to trim the squad and yet we only had one senior left-back at the start of the season.
It's a madness that if, all rumours are true, we are having a complete overall in the January window, Chunes. Look at our wide players, apart from Campbell, losing anyone of them is a bonus, Blackett Taylor, DJ and Kirk would not get in a top six side.
Just seen an Inside Football article saying that there is interest in Lyle Taylor from un- named clubs. His contract is up in June. Looks like a bit of a desperation in the piece- either the Nott. F. placed it to create interest because they want to move him on(which there was a piece in Dec that suggested that), or his agent because he wants to go and nobody is enquiring.
All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433.
Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.
That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
He's a 19 year old kid. I wouldn't want to play him every week if JRS or CBT got injured. We NEED more cover than that.
All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433.
Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.
That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
He's a 19 year old kid. I wouldn't want to play him every week if JRS or CBT got injured. We NEED more cover than that.
Why not? JRS is 20, Leaburn is 19 and Ness is 20.
As long as he’s genuinely good enough and not thrown in like Clayden was or others like Kennedy in the RD years it’s not an issue.
It’s sensible to move bigger earners on who aren’t good enough or suited rather than waste money on them being back up.
If we had more to play for I’d want more experience but this is a good opportunity to help Campbell develop ahead of next season. We can then assess whether he should go on loan or can be part of the first team squad.
Just seen an Inside Football article saying that there is interest in Lyle Taylor from un- named clubs. His contract is up in June. Looks like a bit of a desperation in the piece- either the Nott. F. placed it to create interest because they want to move him on(which there was a piece in Dec that suggested that), or his agent because he wants to go and nobody is enquiring.
Would his ego let him drop down to League 1 mid table !
It's mad that we've got so many players in some positions that we're having to trim the squad and yet we only had one senior left-back at the start of the season.
It's a madness that if, all rumours are true, we are having a complete overall in the January window, Chunes. Look at our wide players, apart from Campbell, losing anyone of them is a bonus, Blackett Taylor, DJ and Kirk would not get in a top six side.
Would Corey Blackett get in a top six squad though?
The same for the rest of the squad. You might argue that 4 or 5 of them are good enough for a top 6 team (2 are only on loan though) and 5 or 6 aren't good enough, for different reasons, for our squad. The other 10, or so, are perfectly serviceable league 1 players. The problem is for one reason or another they start for us more often than not.
I still think that you replace the worst 5 with a best 5 and we wouldn't be that far off. The problem is, of course, that our best 5 include 2 loans and the only sellable assets, which means in reality you need to sign at best 10. Again.
It's mad that we've got so many players in some positions that we're having to trim the squad and yet we only had one senior left-back at the start of the season.
It's a madness that if, all rumours are true, we are having a complete overall in the January window, Chunes. Look at our wide players, apart from Campbell, losing anyone of them is a bonus, Blackett Taylor, DJ and Kirk would not get in a top six side.
Would Corey Blackett get in a top six squad though?
The same for the rest of the squad. You might argue that 4 or 5 of them are good enough for a top 6 team (2 are only on loan though) and 5 or 6 aren't good enough, for different reasons, for our squad. The other 10, or so, are perfectly serviceable league 1 players. The problem is for one reason or another they start for us more often than not.
I still think that you replace the worst 5 with a best 5 and we wouldn't be that far off. The problem is, of course, that our best 5 include 2 loans and the only sellable assets, which means in reality you need to sign a best 10. Again.
I think, with the signings made, another centre half and a forward, we probably be close to a good starting eleven but the team has to play together and Bolton are a good example of patient team building.
Expect DJ to follow Kirk and Stockley out the door today as well then .... sounds like a good clear out by Holden and not carrying any passengers.
My cynical side says at it stands, it looks like primarily a cost reduction exercise to me. Get senior players off wage bill and cover with cheaper loans
Assuming that link on players salaries, shared the other day, was correct, off loading Kirk with save £5k a week, not sure where Stockley was on it, but woulda thought he'd be on around the same
Very doubtful that a club would pay 100% wages on a loan player.
Assuming that link on players salaries, shared the other day, was correct, off loading Kirk with save £5k a week, not sure where Stockley was on it, but woulda thought he'd be on around the same
It only saves 5k a week if Burton pay all of it...
Expect DJ to follow Kirk and Stockley out the door today as well then .... sounds like a good clear out by Holden and not carrying any passengers.
My cynical side says at it stands, it looks like primarily a cost reduction exercise to me. Get senior players off wage bill and cover with cheaper loans
Only 1 loan spot left although obviously we can sign more but can only have 5 in the matchday squad. I can see 3/4 leaving and 1 coming in.
Expect DJ to follow Kirk and Stockley out the door today as well then .... sounds like a good clear out by Holden and not carrying any passengers.
My cynical side says at it stands, it looks like primarily a cost reduction exercise to me. Get senior players off wage bill and cover with cheaper loans
Whilst I agree - the 3 x billionaire owners mean we don't need to save the money surely
To be honest, we don't need a physically imposing midfielder in so much as we need control. Our midfield has some good players in it but it's so reactive. Dobson putting in a great tackle because an attacker has gone clear, Fraser breaking the lines with some good footwork, maybe a quick searching ball from Morgan. All good stuff but sudden. We very rarely see stuff happen as the result of a platform we've built from controlling the game in the middle. We've got Dobson to go around kicking people and Fraser to come up with some moments of brilliance but we need a midfielder alongside them who can keep the game ticking over while being able to hold his space and win the ball where needed, or at least cover the gaps created by a fullback going or an attack breaking down. I know absolutely nothing about Kilkenny so I don't know if he's that player, but while Albie has some good attributes he just doesn't know how to play to the full extent of his role. He's often caught in odd positions and has trouble resetting on a turnover. It's no surprise that Albie's best games where when Bowyer put him as a wide midfielder in a 4 and told him to stay narrow, put in challenges and play the ball early when he gets it.
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That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
We're really not going to sign another winger in those circumstances, particularly when you see Campbell looks promising.
As long as he’s genuinely good enough and not thrown in like Clayden was or others like Kennedy in the RD years it’s not an issue.
It’s sensible to move bigger earners on who aren’t good enough or suited rather than waste money on them being back up.
If we had more to play for I’d want more experience but this is a good opportunity to help Campbell develop ahead of next season. We can then assess whether he should go on loan or can be part of the first team squad.
The same for the rest of the squad. You might argue that 4 or 5 of them are good enough for a top 6 team (2 are only on loan though) and 5 or 6 aren't good enough, for different reasons, for our squad. The other 10, or so, are perfectly serviceable league 1 players. The problem is for one reason or another they start for us more often than not.
I still think that you replace the worst 5 with a best 5 and we wouldn't be that far off. The problem is, of course, that our best 5 include 2 loans and the only sellable assets, which means in reality you need to sign at best 10. Again.