Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker?
Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position.
Money saved though I bet.
On the other hand how many people have been saying JS in the team was like playing with 10 men. So assuming Bonne isn't as terrible as Stockley has been this year then we are still in a better position than before the window.
All the best to Jayden - Shows how quickly things can change in Football
Had an outstanding year for us last year, regardless if some of his goals came in Cup Competitions, whilst others were with his stronger right foot, instead of his weaker left etc... But there were equally times when he spoke damned well, spoke about wanting to end his career with us, and put the effort in - That back injury you'd think has something to do with how he plays now, so hope he can rediscover some of his old form on the North coast, just not against us please fella!!
Surprised Stockley is a permanent but it's probably for the best. When it comes to loaning out Kirk and maybe DJ though it's not just about getting them off the wage bill, it's also important that we get them playing and hopefully looking like decent footballers again so that we're more likely to find buyers for them in the summer. Right now with the wages Kirk is on and the amount we paid for him we need him to go out and have a brilliant spell at Burton just to get someone to take him off us long term
Move Stockley, McG, McG, JFC, Kirk and DJ on in this window to save ££. Bring in some relatively cheap loanees and kids. Hope the 11-15 decent payers we had anyway stay injury free and Holden gets a tune out of them to show decent form (play offs are gone) and in summer show the Texan investors how easy it is to run the club at a much lower cost base (slash academy too) and still be successful as long as you have the right people (Holden/Scott) in charge...?
All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433.
Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.
That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
He's a 19 year old kid. I wouldn't want to play him every week if JRS or CBT got injured. We NEED more cover than that.
Why not? JRS is 20, Leaburn is 19 and Ness is 20.
As long as he’s genuinely good enough and not thrown in like Clayden was or others like Kennedy in the RD years it’s not an issue.
It’s sensible to move bigger earners on who aren’t good enough or suited rather than waste money on them being back up.
If we had more to play for I’d want more experience but this is a good opportunity to help Campbell develop ahead of next season. We can then assess whether he should go on loan or can be part of the first team squad.
But is he good enough? He's got some talent of course, but Bolton dealt with him very easily. He's very raw.
Yes I want him to get games, but I don't want us to be (again) in a situation where we're overplaying kids because we have no choice, which does neither us or them any good.
Not all 19 year old are equal either. Rooney was much better than Ronaldo at 19.
Surely Stockley can't be going to Fleetwood - he was injured for Saturday's game. Let's face it - this whole window has been about getting rid of a pile of crap, expensive mistakes that Gallen and MS have precided over and in return if we get Kilkenny it isn't MS' black box of data analytics is it - and neither were ANY of the signings we made in pre season - they were all known by Garner.
We have no money. Our owner wants to slash the wage bill. I don't blame him - Kirk, Mansfield and Stockley are earning big salaries for players who aren't getting minutes - same with McGrandles, JFC, Gilbey etc etc
I get it. But we may as well stop the bullshit. There are NO billionaires buying us. Just a group of opportunistic football people who think they can get THIS squad, completely outplayed by Bolton on Saturday and whose best players may well not be here come the Summer (Rak Saki, Leaburn, Dobson, Bonne, Clare (though with Clare, I'm not sure he's in our best players now), plus Kane. Sessegnon etc - into the Championship on spending no money and polishing what turds we will have left.
It's VERY depressing and I remain under, under, under whelmed!
All the best to Jayden - Shows how quickly things can change in Football
Had an outstanding year for us last year, regardless if some of his goals came in Cup Competitions, whilst others were with his stronger right foot, instead of his weaker left etc... But there were equally times when he spoke damned well, spoke about wanting to end his career with us, and put the effort in - That back injury you'd think has something to do with how he plays now, so hope he can rediscover some of his old form on the North coast, just not against us please fella!!
I wouldn't say outstanding, but 13 league goals last season was a reasonable return. This season he's been really poor though. If it's the back injury, then you wonder if it's a permanent decline?
Surprised Stockley is a permanent but it's probably for the best. When it comes to loaning out Kirk and maybe DJ though it's not just about getting them off the wage bill, it's also important that we get them playing and hopefully looking like decent footballers again so that we're more likely to find buyers for them in the summer. Right now with the wages Kirk is on and the amount we paid for him we need him to go out and have a brilliant spell at Burton just to get someone to take him off us long term
Is it just me that would actually be a bit pissed off if Kirk (arguably even Stockley) left and suddenly had a brilliant spell away from us? Particularly as they are staying in this division.
Would feel a bit like they've been taking the piss out of us all of this season.
Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker?
Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position.
Money saved though I bet.
And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year.
He's played a lot less minutes than Stockley and first half of this season he's been primarily used at the end of games in the Championship.
He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games.
Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker?
Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position.
Money saved though I bet.
And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year.
He's played a lot less minutes than Stockley and first half of this season he's been primarily used at the end of games in the Championship.
He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games.
Would you be happy with Leaburn and Bonne (+ Aneke occasionally) as our promotion-chasing strikers for 2023/24?
Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker?
Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position.
Money saved though I bet.
And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year.
He's played a lot less minutes than Stockley and first half of this season he's been primarily used at the end of games in the Championship.
He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games.
Would you be happy with Leaburn and Bonne (+ Aneke occasionally) as our promotion-chasing strikers for 2023/24?
I certainly wouldn't.
Lets deal with the rest of 2022/23 first before we think about next season, no guarantee we'll have Bonne either
Is it better that we get Stockley off the books now, so we know we need to find two permanent Strikers in the summer (provided we dont find someone else before tomorrow) - Rather than being in a position with Kirk, where we think he's coming back, not sure if he's staying, so cant really get a replacement until he's going.
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Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position.
Money saved though I bet.
I'd like to think they've let Stockley go to sign a replacement that's more suited to Holden's style but I think that's unlikely.
Had an outstanding year for us last year, regardless if some of his goals came in Cup Competitions, whilst others were with his stronger right foot, instead of his weaker left etc... But there were equally times when he spoke damned well, spoke about wanting to end his career with us, and put the effort in - That back injury you'd think has something to do with how he plays now, so hope he can rediscover some of his old form on the North coast, just not against us please fella!!
Now in terms of weird deadline days , that would be Southall and his snacks level weird.
Let's face it - this whole window has been about getting rid of a pile of crap, expensive mistakes that Gallen and MS have precided over and in return if we get Kilkenny it isn't MS' black box of data analytics is it - and neither were ANY of the signings we made in pre season - they were all known by Garner.
We have no money. Our owner wants to slash the wage bill. I don't blame him - Kirk, Mansfield and Stockley are earning big salaries for players who aren't getting minutes - same with McGrandles, JFC, Gilbey etc etc
I get it. But we may as well stop the bullshit. There are NO billionaires buying us. Just a group of opportunistic football people who think they can get THIS squad, completely outplayed by Bolton on Saturday and whose best players may well not be here come the Summer (Rak Saki, Leaburn, Dobson, Bonne, Clare (though with Clare, I'm not sure he's in our best players now), plus Kane. Sessegnon etc - into the Championship on spending no money and polishing what turds we will have left.
It's VERY depressing and I remain under, under, under whelmed!
Would feel a bit like they've been taking the piss out of us all of this season.
He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games.
Seems like a good egg shame it hasnt worked out but good luck for his future career
I certainly wouldn't.
I've spoken to him & was similar height.
5ft 9" at most imo.
Is it better that we get Stockley off the books now, so we know we need to find two permanent Strikers in the summer (provided we dont find someone else before tomorrow) - Rather than being in a position with Kirk, where we think he's coming back, not sure if he's staying, so cant really get a replacement until he's going.