All I can say is his interview must’ve been a blinder. Sandgaard has got some serious explaining to do in order to get the support back onside. Already said I’m not impressed with this and now won’t be renewing my ST. This geeza couldn’t even get Swindon out of L2. How’s he gonna get us into a position where we’re contenders. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind. Good night … Totally bemused with this appointment.
Mainly couldnt get Swindon out of League 2 because Davison cant shoot straight. Score his pen = Wembley.
I think it’s inconceivable now that it won’t be Garner. The only reason TS is coming out with this ‘still interviewing’ guff is because he can’t say it’s Garner because the final cross the t’s and dot the i’s with Swindon or Garner or both have yet to be done. Unfortunately he can’t help himself and instead of keeping sctum he has to say something, it’s just the way he rolls. There is no way Cawley is going to post what he has unless he’s 100% certain. If Garner isn’t confirmed by 5pm tomorrow I’ll eat my hat.
Blimey its 'Carry on up the Valley" Billy Cotton must be turnin in his grave But some of us have been watching this 'shit show' for decades Right back to when Charlton were called the "stock exchange' We had no more ambition than to, to produce young players to sell on (presumably to make a few bucks) to more ambitious clubs (Nothing has changed) --A Footnote- I saw Joe Aribo scored an important goal for Glasgow Rangers in some Euro Cup
Like most others on here I would have preferred a "bigger" name, but when we were linked to him earlier in the week I read his wiki page & thought his pedigree & stats looked good. That was confirmed when I saw this seasons League 2 stats. Most impressive.
He has had years coaching the youngsters & bringing them through to play in the first team. I can see that was attractive to TS as he has said multiple times he want to get our Academy cat 1 status & to use it to bring players into the 1st team instead of spending ££££ on players every season. This was his plan last season but Adkins wasn't fully on board (hence starting the season with no fit left back & no active midfield).
If Garner can reproduce Swindons stats from last season I'll be very pleased.
Good luck to him if he's appointment. I'll back the team, can't not.
What's annoyed me though, again, is TS grandstanding comments. Last season's We're going walk the league, that worked well.
Now its one about our ambition of the managers we are trying to appoint, saying we're aiming higher than Beale, who's the hottest property of the english coaching world right now, and he pulls Ben Garner out the bag.
Smacks of the kid at school who's dad, uncles and cousins done everything better than the story you just told, except he's an orphan.
He needs to shut the f up, and just get on with it. Oh and appoint a CEO who's got a feckin clue how a football club is run.
He’d be a very creditable and well respected appointment in football, he’s just appointed a COO and he hasn’t made any of those kinds of comments in nearly a year.
That walking the league has definitely come back to haunt him I’ll give you.
I just don’t get the hatred and vitriol towards him. He’s a decent bloke who’s doing everything the right way. He’s said he really wants to use the academy and have a young energetic team which totally fits how Swindon progressed last season.
As @LargeAddick says there is no way an experienced reporter like Richard Cawley is going to put that online unless it is 99% certain so all the talk of it not being done seems fanciful.
I wish the bloke all the best of luck, he has a modest pedigree but I saw a lot of Swindon highlights last season and they were very attacking, so could be a good watch.
Personally, I’d have backed JJ but that’s done now, we have got to give this guy our full support.
However, the reality for Sandgaard is that this is now 100% his appointment, he screwed up with Adkins big time and then sacked JJ a rather unjustly so this is his responsibility.
If we are not in the Play Off spots or close to them by November then this new guy - and Sandgaard - will come under huge pressure because, quite frankly, he is very lightly credentialed.
That may not be a bad thing, he is young, hungry and ambitious, he won’t be sitting on his laurels or thinking he is too good for us, he’ll be busting a gut for success.
I'm quite keen for it to be Garner, at this point. Football matches/playoff promotions can be won against the run of play or from individual player error. Having the best possession stats, shots, shots on target, and goals in the league across the season is a much more reliable indicator of performance.
It's weird how the psyche works. Everyone would have been happy with Beale because he's been hyped up over the past month, and he's got zero track record at management. Garner has had zero hype but got great KPI's last season and most people are disappointed.
Shows how effective advertising is really. Everyone wants the shiny toy that other people have been saying is good, even if it has no basis.
Uuumm, not sure what to make of this.. good job last year, terrible previously! Happy to give him a chance, but a lot of pressure on this..
To me it sounds very much a black box appointment! I got last night announcement was going to be made this week.. But was also told from a good friend here in Dubai, who has some villa fans staying in the hotel he works at, that Beale was leaving and going to Charlton.
Really why. I have no idea wheather this new manager will be a success or not but being allowed to bring his own coaching staff with him and not having to work with a coach he may not necessary get on with makes sense to me.
Interesting... Just caught up on a number of pages on the thread.
All I'll add is that Cawley clearly doesn't get his inside information from Charlton anymore, we seem to have closed shop on rumours leaking - Is he posting based on Agents etc. jumping the gun
Managers succeed and managers fail. Often the same ones. The reasons for this can be circumstances as well as ability. If it is Garner, I wish him well and will of course give him a chance and hope he succeeds. If I was the owner, I would be more bothered with what I see on the pitch than interviews but hey ho. And that would be results rather all this nonsense about attractive football.
None of us know whether Garner will be a success, and I include Sandgaard in that but he can be, that is largely down to him and the support he gets. It is important we don't faff around and start to focus on next season. That would be a positive at least.
Can you ever be sure that a manager will be successful?
I know little about the guy tbh but from looking at the links and stats if he is appointed as always he comes with negatives and positives imo.
Negatives.
Due to statements by TS expectation levels were high and people will be underwhelmed because of this so straight off the bat he will be under pressure to produce results.
His philosophy seems to be very different to anything we have had in recent years and not sure we have the players that can deliver it, I honestly cant think of a game where we put 5vpasses together excluding ones backwards and sideways at the back
From initial fan response it seems he has a hill to climb to gain support.
Positives
Fits the style of play and model that TS has always said he wants so hopefully he will be given a squad that can deliver it.
Had great stats last year from a club that was skint and a real basket case so if given money to spend hopefully he will do even better.
Young and progressive coach with a proven record of developing youth players just what we need with the group of top youngsters coming through
On a personal note it seems he likes to play possession based attacking football which is right up my street. My biggest criticism the last couple of years under Adkins & JJ is that we were just so boring and predictable if this guy can make us attractive to watch then I'm in.
My SWOT analysis points to a good appointment 😂
Give the bloke a chance you never know hos team might just get you on the edge of your seat next season
You can never be sure apart from maybe one or two who are out of our league and probably always will be. I suspect Sandgaard believes you can be sure which is probably why he didn't give JJ a proper chance. Still, it is down to Garner now and of course the support he gets, and I don't mean from us.
On a negative side despite all that possession and shots, their defence was awful as they finished 6th and conceded more than any side in the top 10.
Clearly TS thinks that being entertained is more important than promotion. I think all of us would disagree .
I think your both write and wrong mate. Ofcourse promotion is important more so to TS than most of us as it lowers his losses if we get promoted. However entertainment is also very important surely ? I know we are all different but if you asked me would I spend my cash next season watching the same turgid crap we saw last season if it got us promoted then the answer is no definitely not. Ofcourse I would be pleased we got promoted but I would be buying tickets to watch it
But winning every week is enjoyable in itself. And pragmatism is generally the biggest factor in the style of play. You have to maximise the hand you have.
But winning every week is enjoyable in itself. And pragmatism is generally the biggest factor in the style of play. You have to maximise the hand you have.
As I said mate we are all different but I personally had a gut full of watching us last season and stopped going with about 8 matches left and honestly wouldnt buy a ticket next season if the same was being dished up regardless of results, football is expensive in terms of both time and money and I personally see no enjoyment is a victory if it's a shite game to watch. Yes pleased to win but enjoy the spectacle no.
Yes I suppose so unless your gameplan is to keep hitting aimless longballs upto a big target man up front in the hope that you win a second ball and score. Yes I would be pleased we won when I saw the result ofcourse. But I wouldnt pay to watch it. This is the reason JJ went I'm sure, nothing to do with results imo his teams set up and performances wouldnt put bums on seats imo
Let's not forget Swindon had a lot of players that shouldn't be playing league two, he failed to get them promoted. It looks like he has a positive attitude, which is a huge tick for TS!!
Today could be interesting, if rumours are true that TS has said it is incorrect.
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He has had years coaching the youngsters & bringing them through to play in the first team. I can see that was attractive to TS as he has said multiple times he want to get our Academy cat 1 status & to use it to bring players into the 1st team instead of spending ££££ on players every season. This was his plan last season but Adkins wasn't fully on board (hence starting the season with no fit left back & no active midfield).
If Garner can reproduce Swindons stats from last season I'll be very pleased.
Both Ben Garner and Jonny Williams were born in Pembury in Kent.
Not a lot of people know that.
I wish the bloke all the best of luck, he has a modest pedigree but I saw a lot of Swindon highlights last season and they were very attacking, so could be a good watch.
Personally, I’d have backed JJ but that’s done now, we have got to give this guy our full support.
However, the reality for Sandgaard is that this is now 100% his appointment, he screwed up with Adkins big time and then sacked JJ a rather unjustly so this is his responsibility.
If we are not in the Play Off spots or close to them by November then this new guy - and Sandgaard - will come under huge pressure because, quite frankly, he is very lightly credentialed.
That may not be a bad thing, he is young, hungry and ambitious, he won’t be sitting on his laurels or thinking he is too good for us, he’ll be busting a gut for success.
Having the best possession stats, shots, shots on target, and goals in the league across the season is a much more reliable indicator of performance.
It's weird how the psyche works. Everyone would have been happy with Beale because he's been hyped up over the past month, and he's got zero track record at management.
Garner has had zero hype but got great KPI's last season and most people are disappointed.
Shows how effective advertising is really. Everyone wants the shiny toy that other people have been saying is good, even if it has no basis.
We’ve had the bullshit bingo managerial skills of Adkins, loved JJ but possibly not quite ready
Give the fella a chance we have some good players and he gets an extra 10% we are laughing
To me it sounds very much a black box appointment! I got last night announcement was going to be made this week.. But was also told from a good friend here in Dubai, who has some villa fans staying in the hotel he works at, that Beale was leaving and going to Charlton.
good luck Garner
I have no idea wheather this new manager will be a success or not but being allowed to bring his own coaching staff with him and not having to work with a coach he may not necessary get on with makes sense to me.
All I'll add is that Cawley clearly doesn't get his inside information from Charlton anymore, we seem to have closed shop on rumours leaking - Is he posting based on Agents etc. jumping the gun
On a negative side despite all that possession and shots, their defence was awful as they finished 6th and conceded more than any side in the top 10.
None of us know whether Garner will be a success, and I include Sandgaard in that but he can be, that is largely down to him and the support he gets. It is important we don't faff around and start to focus on next season. That would be a positive at least.
I know little about the guy tbh but from looking at the links and stats if he is appointed as always he comes with negatives and positives imo.
Negatives.
Due to statements by TS expectation levels were high and people will be underwhelmed because of this so straight off the bat he will be under pressure to produce results.
His philosophy seems to be very different to anything we have had in recent years and not sure we have the players that can deliver it, I honestly cant think of a game where we put 5vpasses together excluding ones backwards and sideways at the back
From initial fan response it seems he has a hill to climb to gain support.
Positives
Fits the style of play and model that TS has always said he wants so hopefully he will be given a squad that can deliver it.
Had great stats last year from a club that was skint and a real basket case so if given money to spend hopefully he will do even better.
Young and progressive coach with a proven record of developing youth players just what we need with the group of top youngsters coming through
On a personal note it seems he likes to play possession based attacking football which is right up my street. My biggest criticism the last couple of years under Adkins & JJ is that we were just so boring and predictable if this guy can make us attractive to watch then I'm in.
My SWOT analysis points to a good appointment 😂
Give the bloke a chance you never know hos team might just get you on the edge of your seat next season
Today could be interesting, if rumours are true that TS has said it is incorrect.