What is it with Barker, I've heard from people at the club say he's miles off first team. He's not the answer. We need a free loan
What is the point of a youth system if they struggle no good. He seemed fine in the games he played in .
Harry Beadle is the next off the conveyor belt - trust me, he's taken a while to come to the boil but he is gonna be the next one into the first team and he will be a fans favourite - the boy is a 100%er and along with his brother James in goal, will be the backbone of our team for years to come - COYR!!!!!
Harry is a character to say the least. I managed a cricket team that he and my son was in when they were young and you couldn't help but laugh at some of his antics. He was a decent fast bowler and a very quick across the ground fielder but football was always his calling which is why he concentrated on that from the age of 13.
Both his parents are tall but I did hear that he's only really grown into his frame in the last year or so?
yes, i've been good friends with the family since Harry was a toddler - i know them very well and you're right, he has been hampered a bit by not getting the growth spurt til the last year or so - he will be a machine in the next year or so and the crowd will love him and his brother - charlton through and through they are
Can someone explain why a club would pay a fee for Doughty now rather than get him for free in the summer? As he’s injured until at least March, he probably won’t be up to speed until he’s had a preseason surely, so does he really have value this season? Also, wouldn’t Alfie himself prefer to move in the summer when he can get higher wages due to the lack of fee?
I suspect to be a step ahead of other clubs who may also wish to sign him but on a free. Clubs they might fear would be more attractive to the player, like Celtic. But a club more interested than stealing the player.
What is it with Barker, I've heard from people at the club say he's miles off first team. He's not the answer. We need a free loan
What is the point of a youth system if they struggle no good. He seemed fine in the games he played in .
Harry Beadle is the next off the conveyor belt - trust me, he's taken a while to come to the boil but he is gonna be the next one into the first team and he will be a fans favourite - the boy is a 100%er and along with his brother James in goal, will be the backbone of our team for years to come - COYR!!!!!
What is it with Barker, I've heard from people at the club say he's miles off first team. He's not the answer. We need a free loan
What is the point of a youth system if they struggle no good. He seemed fine in the games he played in .
Harry Beadle is the next off the conveyor belt - trust me, he's taken a while to come to the boil but he is gonna be the next one into the first team and he will be a fans favourite - the boy is a 100%er and along with his brother James in goal, will be the backbone of our team for years to come - COYR!!!!!
He only made his debut for the U23s in November so it seems unlikely he's the next one in the first team.
see my note about the growth spurt - he'll start going through the gears now
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
there is no comparison - chucks is probably the most dangerous striker in league 1 and possibly the championship - his issues are about his body / ability to stay fit - if he does he is in a completely different league to washington
What is it with Barker, I've heard from people at the club say he's miles off first team. He's not the answer. We need a free loan
What is the point of a youth system if they struggle no good. He seemed fine in the games he played in .
Harry Beadle is the next off the conveyor belt - trust me, he's taken a while to come to the boil but he is gonna be the next one into the first team and he will be a fans favourite - the boy is a 100%er and along with his brother James in goal, will be the backbone of our team for years to come - COYR!!!!!
What is it with Barker, I've heard from people at the club say he's miles off first team. He's not the answer. We need a free loan
What is the point of a youth system if they struggle no good. He seemed fine in the games he played in .
Harry Beadle is the next off the conveyor belt - trust me, he's taken a while to come to the boil but he is gonna be the next one into the first team and he will be a fans favourite - the boy is a 100%er and along with his brother James in goal, will be the backbone of our team for years to come - COYR!!!!!
What position does Harry play?
centre half
Cheers Doucher, leftie or right footed?
Right - he and my youngest went to charlton toddlers at swanley together - harry dominated the ball for the whole hour - nobody got a look in - we went on a football tournament to butlins wihen they were a bit older - about 8 - he won player of the tournament - Mat Le tissier handed out the trophy to him - as he's walking off the stage he called back to mat and put his hand to his ear like a phone and said 'call me' - brought the house down - i've got loads of stories - he's always been a real character
Bowyer said last night that Sandgaard wants to sign more players , but the cap is limiting us!
I’d imagine we have a few lined up, just needing to offload forst
smyth has to be first out of the door if poss, followed by bogle and washington?
Smyth is a loan so sending him back wont really free up any money. The other 2 were only recruited 6 months ago & on 2 year contracts at least. Hard to move them on and to add into the mix I'm pretty sure Washington was signed before the cap was introduced.
Sad to say I don't think we'll be signing anyone this month - only a loan if the loanee club will pay virtually all the wages. Or if we get rid of Oztumer & use his wages - but I doubt he's on much in any case.
Bowyer said last night that Sandgaard wants to sign more players , but the cap is limiting us!
I’d imagine we have a few lined up, just needing to offload forst
smyth has to be first out of the door if poss, followed by bogle and washington?
Smyth is a loan so sending him back wont really free up any money. The other 2 were only recruited 6 months ago & on 2 year contracts at least. Hard to move them on and to add into the mix I'm pretty sure Washington was signed before the cap was introduced.
Sad to say I don't think we'll be signing anyone this month - only a loan if the loanee club will pay virtually all the wages. Or if we get rid of Oztumer & use his wages - but I doubt he's on much in any case.
It will free his wages though, as Smyth is 23
I think Bowyer has said that QPR are doing us quite a bit of a favour with Smyth's wages
Bowyer said last night that Sandgaard wants to sign more players , but the cap is limiting us!
I’d imagine we have a few lined up, just needing to offload forst
smyth has to be first out of the door if poss, followed by bogle and washington?
Smyth is a loan so sending him back wont really free up any money. The other 2 were only recruited 6 months ago & on 2 year contracts at least. Hard to move them on and to add into the mix I'm pretty sure Washington was signed before the cap was introduced.
Sad to say I don't think we'll be signing anyone this month - only a loan if the loanee club will pay virtually all the wages. Or if we get rid of Oztumer & use his wages - but I doubt he's on much in any case.
It will free his wages though, as Smyth is 23
I think Bowyer has said that QPR are doing us quite a bit of a favour with Smyth's wages
I'm sure we're still contributing something, and if we're down to our last £500 a week...
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
What is it with all these stats?
At best they can only be a rough guide - and don't really measure a players all round performance or the interaction of his team players, that he relies on. And then trying to compare one player with another who doesn't even play the same role ...... (!)
We'd never heard of this glorified navel gazing or dissection to the nth degree until Sky bought out football and reduced it to the level of some dumb arsed American TV game show.
Oh, well ..... each to their own, I suppose.
If someone makes an argument using stats, it is fair to counter with stats is it not?
Stats are interesting they don't give a full picture but they can actually prove/disprove assumptions and bias.
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
there is no comparison - chucks is probably the most dangerous striker in league 1 and possibly the championship - his issues are about his body / ability to stay fit - if he does he is in a completely different league to washington
I actually believe Chuks could play football in most leagues and be effective. He's strong, fairly quick, decent feet, can hold it up, has good vision, can beat a man. If he can sort out his fitness/injury dilemma we will struggle to keep him.
Has to be the number 1 priority to get signed up, he's only 27 as well
Edit: Apologies for further bumping the rumour thread without a rumour to those who visit the thread strictly for them
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
there is no comparison - chucks is probably the most dangerous striker in league 1 and possibly the championship - his issues are about his body / ability to stay fit - if he does he is in a completely different league to washington
You'll get no disagreement from me. We know Chuks is dangerous. The argument was that TRH felt Washington wasn't a goal threat... Not even arguing the constant bit, but converting 1 in 3 shots from Washington is a threat. I was using the stats to show our most dangerous player is actually only a bit more dangerous than our second top scorer.
Probably a stupid question but how visible is each clubs wage cap situation? Do other clubs have access to that information or is it just the EFL that knows how much leeway everyone's got?
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
there is no comparison - chucks is probably the most dangerous striker in league 1 and possibly the championship - his issues are about his body / ability to stay fit - if he does he is in a completely different league to washington
You'll get no disagreement from me. We know Chuks is dangerous. The argument was that TRH felt Washington wasn't a goal threat... Not even arguing the constant bit, but converting 1 in 3 shots from Washington is a threat. I was using the stats to show our most dangerous player is actually only a bit more dangerous than our second top scorer.
Please read my post. It’s not what I said. I said that Washington has scored 1 in his last 10 and Aneke scores every 90 minutes. My post was in reply to a post saying Washington is our main goal threat, where i pointed out that Aneke is our main threat. Completely different to saying Washington isn’t a threat.
I also said I’m not knocking Washington as a player.
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
there is no comparison - chucks is probably the most dangerous striker in league 1 and possibly the championship - his issues are about his body / ability to stay fit - if he does he is in a completely different league to washington
You'll get no disagreement from me. We know Chuks is dangerous. The argument was that TRH felt Washington wasn't a goal threat... Not even arguing the constant bit, but converting 1 in 3 shots from Washington is a threat. I was using the stats to show our most dangerous player is actually only a bit more dangerous than our second top scorer.
Please read my post. It’s not what I said. I said that Washington has scored 1 in his last 10 and Aneke scores every 90 minutes. My post was in reply to a post saying Washington is our main goal threat, where i pointed out that Aneke is our main threat. Completely different to saying Washington isn’t a threat.
I also said I’m not knocking Washington as a player.
We'll leave it here then... I agree Chuks is our main goal threat and Washington is definitely a goal threat, even if it is less so than Chuks.
Probably a stupid question but how visible is each clubs wage cap situation? Do other clubs have access to that information or is it just the EFL that knows how much leeway everyone's got?
Would doubt the internal financial workings of a club is common knowledge, think its rather a case of "Sorry, we can't afford to pay his £15k per week. We've only got enough left for £25 a week and a Happy Meal, can you help us please?"
hes a great team player, and has been our only consistent goal threat this season!
Really? He has scored 1 in 10. Aneke scores every 88 mins, I know which one I would describe as a goal threat
im not knocking Washington but I wouldn’t call him a goal threat
By minutes 1 in every 239 to Chuks 1 in every 92
In addition to this he's only got away 19 shots to Aneke's 35. Making his goal conversion 32% to Chuks 26%.
If he gets away more shots, he either becomes
A- More of a goal threat or B - Equally/More wasteful than Chuks
there is no comparison - chucks is probably the most dangerous striker in league 1 and possibly the championship - his issues are about his body / ability to stay fit - if he does he is in a completely different league to washington
You'll get no disagreement from me. We know Chuks is dangerous. The argument was that TRH felt Washington wasn't a goal threat... Not even arguing the constant bit, but converting 1 in 3 shots from Washington is a threat. I was using the stats to show our most dangerous player is actually only a bit more dangerous than our second top scorer.
Please read my post. It’s not what I said. I said that Washington has scored 1 in his last 10 and Aneke scores every 90 minutes. My post was in reply to a post saying Washington is our main goal threat, where i pointed out that Aneke is our main threat. Completely different to saying Washington isn’t a threat.
I also said I’m not knocking Washington as a player.
We'll leave it here then... I agree Chuks is our main goal threat and Washington is definitely a goal threat, even if it is less so than Chuks.
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Surely that can only mean us or Sunderland?
Stats are interesting they don't give a full picture but they can actually prove/disprove assumptions and bias.
Your comment doesn’t really add a lot to the Washington conversation. It suggests we miss shinnie, who will create chances for Schwartz and Aneke.
Has to be the number 1 priority to get signed up, he's only 27 as well
Edit: Apologies for further bumping the rumour thread without a rumour to those who visit the thread strictly for them
Might be a way of getting around the cap.
Would doubt the internal financial workings of a club is common knowledge, think its rather a case of "Sorry, we can't afford to pay his £15k per week. We've only got enough left for £25 a week and a Happy Meal, can you help us please?"
Yeah, who would have thought that if you stifle the bottom of the food chain there will be problems further up.
The EFL really are thick as planks.