Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
Have Cardiff got a spare CH they would trade and could this be the CH Doucher was alluding too?
Sol Bamba?
Bamba was recently diagnosed with Cancer so that's a non starter
Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
Have Cardiff got a spare CH they would trade and could this be the CH Doucher was alluding too?
Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
Have Cardiff got a spare CH they would trade and could this be the CH Doucher was alluding too?
Sol Bamba?
Bamba was recently diagnosed with Cancer so that's a non starter
How awful. A stark reminder of what is really important. I hope it is treatable.
He's undoubtedly infectious. You really want to see him do well but he just flatters to deceive too often.
People will say Bowyer doesn't play to his strengths but the same could be said of his whole career. What exactly is he? Bowyer isn't the only one to not know where to deploy him and the same with managing his minutes - he's never had a prolonged period of full matches.
As a person he's a really lovely guy but he's made his money in the game from his Palace days - he doesn't ever need to work again so maybe a move to somewhere he is happier and maybe nearer to "home" would suit him. He's also likely to be one of our higher earners so there's another possible reason this might just happen
He's undoubtedly infectious. You really want to see him do well but he just flatters to deceive too often.
People will say Bowyer doesn't play to his strengths but the same could be said of his whole career. What exactly is he? Bowyer isn't the only one to not know where to deploy him and the same with managing his minutes - he's never had a prolonged period of full matches.
As a person he's a really lovely guy but he's made his money in the game from his Palace days - he doesn't ever need to work again so maybe a move to somewhere he is happier and maybe nearer to "home" would suit him. He's also likely to be one of our higher earners so there's another possible reason this might just happen
Cardiff won’t be closer to home, he’s from Tunbridge Wells and happens to have Welsh grandparents. I can’t imagine we’ll want to go, he massively struggles being away from home.
news i have from a normally very reliable source is a central defender from a championship club and a winger from league 1
Baah from Rochdale?
No chance of him coming here. West Ham made a bid for him only the other day
Yeah just read West Ham and Rangers both looking at him plus the usual agent links-Juventus, Bayern, Man City lol he’s out of contract in the summer so will be moving.
Don't really care where Baah goes, as long as he does and we don't have to face him again next Saturday
Re: Sorba Thomas and Joel Randall and fees. I get annoyance at not pushing the boat out to get them but I much rather, even if Sandgaard was willing to go higher, to be sensible and offer what we believe their value is with maybe a little wiggle room. No point signing players for fees higher than our viewed value in case they turn out not worth it, then we'd be slating the club for paying such high fees for inadequate players.
Clubs will always want more cash but that is where Gallen will earn his crust. Sell-on, bonuses etc are ideal as if players perform, the selling club to us get rewarded. But it's a risk for them whereas paid all up-front the risk is for us.
In this case, if Randall was out of our price range or not worth what Exeter wanted before, would getting 200K for JW mean Bows and Gallen feel they can increase their offer as he may now get more game time here whereas before he'd have to get JW out the line before him.
Why do people say want to make Shinnie permanent? His salary would be too much and guess what, we have him until the end of the season already
He's also out of contract in the summer so we'll have to worry about more clubs being potentially interested and will be able to make potentially more lucrative offers at that stage.
Of course he could already be in discussion with Scottish clubs if he felt that offers North of the border are more interesting than what League One clubs can offer due to the Salary Cap
With us likely going for play offs at best this season, I also can’t help but think of Williams at Wembley 2 years ago, and how having a player like that even on the bench during a big game is massively helpful.
Jonny WIlliams is better playing forward, either on as a super sub for Wales or for Charlton. Jonny helped turn the game for Charlton at Wembley and I have seen him do it for Wales on a number of occassions. He is one of those players that needs to play in the right position. Not sure if Lee Bowyer wants to play him in his strongest position, or wants a player that has more gritty defensive qualities and maybe a bit more robust. JW does defensive stuff but that's not his forte. IMO, he is Championship level and benefits from being in a stronger squad, so he can played optimally. At Cardiff, it may suit him well there. I would be sorry to see JW go but with the League One squad limitiations, I am not sure Charlton in League One is the right place for him or best for Charlton.
Whatever happens, Jonny Williams is a great character and due to his vital role in the promotion season, will always have a special place in Charlon's supporters hearts.
NO.10 Off the striker is a no from me not enough goals Out wide certainly no winger Midfield pairing no I think missing out on the tackle tells you that
Our standards have slipped so much that we think it is normal and acceptable to have key players who cannot last 90m, like Aneke, Maddison and Williams. It is not normal and you can't expect promotion with half fit players. We have got used to it because of the crap owners, time to move on.
NO.10 Off the striker is a no from me not enough goals Out wide certainly no winger Midfield pairing no I think missing out on the tackle tells you that
No point in selling Jonny if there's no replacement. Having said that, I would keep him anyway. OK, he might not score and does not have a lot of assists to his name but he scares the hell out of opposing defenders, opening up space for others when he is on ball and winning us a lot of free-kicks. Not his fault a lot of those free-kicks are wasted.
Our standards have slipped so much that we think it is normal and acceptable to have key players who cannot last 90m, like Aneke, Maddison and Williams. It is not normal and you can't expect promotion with half fit players. We have got used to it because of the crap owners, time to move on.
Yep, and very average players are called things like ‘wizard’ because we have been so bereft of quality players when one comes along who can kick a ball to a team mate we get all excited.
Our standards have slipped so much that we think it is normal and acceptable to have key players who cannot last 90m, like Aneke, Maddison and Williams. It is not normal and you can't expect promotion with half fit players. We have got used to it because of the crap owners, time to move on.
Just watching Leicester v Leeds build up and they mentioned James Justin has played every min in the league this season. Yes it’s Premier League but puts the inability to play 90 mins into context.
A A wizard who scares the hell out of opposing defenders, is a Championship standard player who is rarely injured.
B A lightweight, diving wee man, who the opposition swat aside with ease when he is not writhing around in fake agony, is made of glass and blowing out his arse before 60 mins are up and his Charlton stats make Ben Reeves look world class by comparison.
Williams does not count towards the cap under his current contract so doesn't make sense to let him go. Might be an idea for Bowyer to figure out why a club at a higher level is interested.
Williams leaving weakens the squad. He offers something that’s hard to find. Genuine impact from the bench. He frustrates too often though when starting. I’m 55/45 hoping he stays but if he does leave then a very good replacement needs to come in.
Williams does not count towards the cap under his current contract so doesn't make sense to let him go. Might be an idea for Bowyer to figure out why a club at a higher level is interested.
Williams counts as far as I’m aware but only the part up to what the cap average is for the squad. The rest is over looked by the EFL as he was already under contract. they don’t just ignore his whole salary.
Williams does not count towards the cap under his current contract so doesn't make sense to let him go. Might be an idea for Bowyer to figure out why a club at a higher level is interested.
Williams counts as far as I’m aware but only the part up to what the cap average is for the squad. The rest is over looked by the EFL as he was already under contract. they don’t just ignore his whole salary.
So you are saying that his salary counts approx £2,500 a week (the average if you divide the cap total with the number of players allowed) to us but anything over that isn’t included as his salary was sorted before the cap came in?
Genuinely asking as I still don’t think I have this fully worked out what does and doesn’t count in my head.
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Jonny is much better in the Championship than L1. Would be sad to see him go but if it helps Bow freshen things up it could be worth it.
He's undoubtedly infectious. You really want to see him do well but he just flatters to deceive too often.
People will say Bowyer doesn't play to his strengths but the same could be said of his whole career. What exactly is he? Bowyer isn't the only one to not know where to deploy him and the same with managing his minutes - he's never had a prolonged period of full matches.
As a person he's a really lovely guy but he's made his money in the game from his Palace days - he doesn't ever need to work again so maybe a move to somewhere he is happier and maybe nearer to "home" would suit him. He's also likely to be one of our higher earners so there's another possible reason this might just happen
to face him again next Saturday
Clubs will always want more cash but that is where Gallen will earn his crust. Sell-on, bonuses etc are ideal as if players perform, the selling club to us get rewarded. But it's a risk for them whereas paid all up-front the risk is for us.
In this case, if Randall was out of our price range or not worth what Exeter wanted before, would getting 200K for JW mean Bows and Gallen feel they can increase their offer as he may now get more game time here whereas before he'd have to get JW out the line before him.
Of course he could already be in discussion with Scottish clubs if he felt that offers North of the border are more interesting than what League One clubs can offer due to the Salary Cap
NO.10 Off the striker is a no from me not enough goals
Out wide certainly no winger
Midfield pairing no I think missing out on the tackle tells you that
A A wizard who scares the hell out of opposing defenders, is a Championship standard player who is rarely injured.
B A lightweight, diving wee man, who the opposition swat aside with ease when he is not writhing around in fake agony, is made of glass and blowing out his arse before 60 mins are up and his Charlton stats make Ben Reeves look world class by comparison.
they don’t just ignore his whole salary.
Genuinely asking as I still don’t think I have this fully worked out what does and doesn’t count in my head.