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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • Williams will not be offered another contract, you can be pretty certain of that. If he has a chance to go to Cardiff it would be in the clubs interest to let him go, it frees up a wage for a player who is easily replaced and maybe allows us to bring someone in.
  • edited January 2021
    I have mixed feelings about moving Jonny on tbh, I adore the bloke as a person but he’s hot and cold when it comes to performance. If selling him brings in a couple hundred K plus frees up £5k a week and we bring in a good player then all for it. Pointless selling if we don’t replace with better. 
  • Is Williams incapable of playing 90 minutes or has bowyer never tried?

    bowyer seems very set in his ways and won’t try anything different, he comes across as that guy who doesn’t like curry despite never having a curry.

    I appreciate that Williams has had fitness issues but how do we know he can’t play 90 minutes without trying. The same thing was said about Aneke who has been a regular starter recently and has hit a lot more minutes under his belt
  • Williams does bring energy to the pitch and is decent at carrying the ball.

    However, he hasnt chipped in with enough goals or even assists. IF we can get a similar player who can do more in the final third then its a no brainer.

    As a team we need to be constantly looking to upgrade on what we have if they dont improve to the level the coaching staff expect. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    I have mixed feelings moving Jonny on tbh, I adore the bloke as a person but he’s hot and cold when it comes to performance. If selling him brings in a couple hundred K plus frees up £5k a week and we bring in a good player then all for it. Pointless selling if we don’t replace with better. 
    Remember for the cap he only counts as 1.7k a week. 
    Great 😂 this cap is ridiculous.
  • Is Williams incapable of playing 90 minutes or has bowyer never tried?

    bowyer seems very set in his ways and won’t try anything different, he comes across as that guy who doesn’t like curry despite never having a curry.

    I appreciate that Williams has had fitness issues but how do we know he can’t play 90 minutes without trying. The same thing was said about Aneke who has been a regular starter recently and has hit a lot more minutes under his belt
    He seems to regularly play more than an hour for Wales, even in his best game for us (against Leeds last season) he was hooked after 56 minutes.  Its almost like Bowyer is so worried about him getting injured and managing his minutes he has forgotten to play him. 
  • Will be the end of us having games called off due to internationals for a while.
    You imagine Gunter and Washington will still be called up, so we'll have to cope without them
  • I still think we’ll field offers for players like Chuks tomorrow. I really like JW but it was obvious when we talked about juggling things that he would be a player who could be sacrificed. Still think Bows wants at least 3 players in. Going to be a real balancing act and unlike other deadline days I think we’ll be very much in the action. 
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  • I think if we have an offer for him we should let him go and I feel that may be the best option for him and us. I really like JW but he is a luxury player that I think we can cope without
  • RedRobin said:
    I have mixed feelings about moving Jonny on tbh, I adore the bloke as a person but he’s hot and cold when it comes to performance. If selling him brings in a couple hundred K plus frees up £5k a week and we bring in a good player then all for it. Pointless selling if we don’t replace with better. 
    Same for me. You want him do do well, and are always expecting him to be the stand out player - but it never happens. When he comes on as a sub and we are struggling, I always have the feeling that he can turn the game, but he rarely does. 
  • edited January 2021
    Is Williams incapable of playing 90 minutes or has bowyer never tried?

    bowyer seems very set in his ways and won’t try anything different, he comes across as that guy who doesn’t like curry despite never having a curry.

    I appreciate that Williams has had fitness issues but how do we know he can’t play 90 minutes without trying. The same thing was said about Aneke who has been a regular starter recently and has hit a lot more minutes under his belt
    This stuff comes from the medical team. Pointless blaming the manager. 
  • Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
  • edited January 2021
    Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
    Have Cardiff got a spare CH they would trade and could this be the CH Doucher was alluding too?

    Sol Bamba?
  • I would move on Williams. For an attacking midfielder he doesn’t contribute enough with goals and assists. Good at drawing fouls and playing with a smile on his face but that’s about it to be honest. I personally would have him below Maddison, Morgan, and even Millar in the attacking midfield role.

    For comparison...
    Williams: 66 appearances, 2 goals, 6 assists
    Morgan: 59 appearances, 2 goals, 10 assists.
  • edited January 2021
    Would Williams leaving allow us to sign Shinnie to facilitate another loan place?

    Jonny is much better in the Championship than L1. Would be sad to see him go but if it helps Bow freshen things up it could be worth it. 
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  • Redrobo said:
    Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
    Have Cardiff got a spare CH they would trade and could this be the CH Doucher was alluding too?

    Sol Bamba?
    Bamba was recently diagnosed with Cancer so that's a non starter
  • Redrobo said:
    Jonny Williams is the sort of guy and footballer that you want to do well no matter what shirt he’s wearing, but for us I think we’ll cope without him so if the offer is good enough and we have a replacement lined up then we should let him go.
    Have Cardiff got a spare CH they would trade and could this be the CH Doucher was alluding too?

    Sol Bamba?
    Won’t be him. He’s not well.
  • If the Cardiff rumour is genuine, I think Bowyer & Gallen would be happy to let him leave
  • re Jonny Wiliams it's a tough one.

    He's undoubtedly infectious.  You really want to see him do well but he just flatters to deceive too often.

    People will say Bowyer doesn't play to his strengths but the same could be said of his whole career.  What exactly is he?  Bowyer isn't the only one to not know where to deploy him and the same with managing his minutes - he's never had a prolonged period of full matches.

    As a person he's a really lovely guy but he's made his money in the game from his Palace days - he doesn't ever need to work again so maybe a move to somewhere he is happier and maybe nearer to "home" would suit him.  He's also likely to be one of our higher earners so there's another possible reason this might just happen
  • RedRobin said:
    RedRobin said:
    DOUCHER said:
    news i have from a normally very reliable source is a central defender from a championship club and a winger from league 1 
    Baah from Rochdale? 
    No chance of him coming here. West Ham made a bid for him only the other day
    Yeah just read West Ham and Rangers both looking at him plus the usual agent links-Juventus, Bayern, Man City lol he’s out of contract in the summer so will be moving. 
    Don't really care where Baah goes, as long as he does and we don't have
    to face him again next Saturday
  • Prepare to underwhelmed it won't be Randall or Baah.
  • Re: Sorba Thomas and Joel Randall and fees. I get annoyance at not pushing the boat out to get them but I much rather, even if Sandgaard was willing to go higher, to be sensible and offer what we believe their value is with maybe a little wiggle room. No point signing players for fees higher than our viewed value in case they turn out not worth it, then we'd be slating the club for paying such high fees for inadequate players.

    Clubs will always want more cash but that is where Gallen will earn his crust. Sell-on, bonuses etc are ideal as if players perform, the selling club to us get rewarded. But it's a risk for them whereas paid all up-front the risk is for us.

    In this case, if Randall was out of our price range or not worth what Exeter wanted before, would getting 200K for JW mean Bows and Gallen feel they can increase their offer as he may now get more game time here whereas before he'd have to get JW out the line before him.
  • Why do people say want to make Shinnie permanent? His salary would be too much and guess what, we have him until the end of the season already 
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