I've got a question regarding the wage cap. It's probably been answered somewhere else.
For argument sake let's use Plymouth player Luke Jephcott and let's assume his contract runs out June 2022. Say he is currently on 6k a week, a figure agreed before the changes in wage cap. Then they wanted to extend his contract until 2025 on his current pay of 6k a week, but it would mean it would push Plymouths annual budget outside the 2.5m pay cap, would he then have to take a pay cut?
Of course this is all hypothetical, but will there will be lots players taking forced pay cuts?
I know you said "hypothetical" and "for arguments sake" ....... but living in Cornwall, Plymouth Argyle is my nearest League club and so I hear a lot about them. I'd be stunned if they paid any player anywhere £6k pw, that's just not the world Argyle live in.
Jephcott is a young player, turning 21 just a few days ago, grew up in Cornwall and progressed through Argyle's youth teams. He did sign a new 'long-term' contract last summer, believed to be for 3 years.
He's done exceptionally well and proud to play for Argyle, his boyhood nearest League club. They were strong rumours that Newcastle made a £1m offer last week which was turned down. In the lower divisions every player has his price, of course, and apparently Argyle now value him around £3m. No doubt if he continues his present progress he'll be sought after and eventually move on - but neither the player or the club are in any hurry.
Anyway, @Poplcon sorry to hijack your post - but as Jephcott has been quite often mentioned on here recently, some people might be interested in a local perspective of the lad.
I’d love to know what clubs were for/against the cap.
The problem is, if Accrington go up this season it can be seen as ‘successful’. If anything I would’ve thought most clubs finishing outside the top 10 would vote for it to give themselves a greater chance.
At the end of the day, football isn’t a fair game, so I don’t know why the EFL are trying to pretend it is. We’ve been shit on many times over the last few years, I’d have no problem with the cap going and us buying the league.
Dunno if Accrington and Lincoln voted against it and then go up, that could heavily swing the vote towards getting rid of it
You'll have three teams that come down from the Championship and I'd be surprised if any of those will vote for the cap, well maybe Wycombe, but even then they're no doubt experiencing the difficulties of sending their players out on loan so may be against it themselves
Suddenly there is a one vote swing to get rid of it rather than a one vote swing to introduce it
Only factor is the other end of the tablke where we may need Wigan to survive themselves, but then you've got Salford currently in the League Two Play-Offs and cant see them being in favour of restrictions given their attitude so far to spending
Salford actually voted for the salary cap. I remember seeing a documentary on TV where Gary Neville explained he voted for the salary cap as he wanted to look out for the wider interest in football rather than Salford's own interests. I know you only picked Salford as an example but just thought it an interesting point of view. I wonder if Neville has since changed his mind on the cap.
Cheers I genuinely didnt realise... I actually mentioned them as thought they'd have been against the Salary Cap
There needs to be some sort financial restrictions on clubs as the economic state of too many clubs is dire. We have seen from recent clubs in administration that the purchase appetite from extremely wealthy individuals has waned and instead has been replaced by a bunch of chancers/grifters. The EFL has tried financial fair play and it hasn’t worked. I have no problem with a cap. The problem is the cap level is too low. They set the cap at a level to force clubs into profitability but that shouldn’t be the intent of the cap. The intent of the cap should to be set at a level to prevent clubs from making poor decisions which lead to administration. I have no clue what the right number is but the current level is way too low.
This is dilemma isn't it?
Surely the solution would be to make the owner personally liable for any spending above income? If Thomas wants to pay Chuks £30k a week, and he can afford it, why shouldn't he be able to?
The problems come when you get a situation like Wigan, or indeed us, where the owner loads the debt onto the clubs books and expect them to be paid back by someone else.
If you enforced zero losses, with a massive, punative penalty I don't know say - 30 points, but allow owners/investors/fans to put money in as much money as equity or sponsorship that would be fine wouldn't it?
FFP is not to protect smaller clubs, it's to protect the "old money" clubs from any potential "new money" upstarts.
Rumours on social media that a "new player" will be in the stands watching today.
When pressed, he says check Exeter’s line up for the absence of a midfielder
Just guesswork cos Randall isn’t in the Exeter squad (the player we were linked with earlier in the window)?? He’s been absent from the squad in the last couple of games IIRC with injury.
Whilst i think most people on here would agree we need another centre back i think we've had a good window so far.
OUTS: Doughty (didn't want to sign a new deal, injured for months anyway) Lapslie (well liked but probably ultimately not at the level we aspire to be) Bogle (not good enough) Smyth (decent squad player but not our decision that QPR wanted to recall him)
INS: Millar (promising start, one of our better players this month) Schwartz (needed an extra striker, just need to ensure we get him some service) Stockley (definite upgrade on Bogle)
Stockley being an upgrade on Bogle has yet to be proven. Particularly as we need to see how well Bogle does at Doncaster.
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I'd be stunned if they paid any player anywhere £6k pw, that's just not the world Argyle live in.
Jephcott is a young player, turning 21 just a few days ago, grew up in Cornwall and progressed through Argyle's youth teams.
He did sign a new 'long-term' contract last summer, believed to be for 3 years.
He's done exceptionally well and proud to play for Argyle, his boyhood nearest League club. They were strong rumours that Newcastle made a £1m offer last week which was turned down. In the lower divisions every player has his price, of course, and apparently Argyle now value him around £3m. No doubt if he continues his present progress he'll be sought after and eventually move on - but neither the player or the club are in any hurry.
Anyway, @Poplcon sorry to hijack your post - but as Jephcott has been quite often mentioned on here recently, some people might be interested in a local perspective of the lad.
This thread is all about the 'cap'!!
Surely the solution would be to make the owner personally liable for any spending above income? If Thomas wants to pay Chuks £30k a week, and he can afford it, why shouldn't he be able to?
The problems come when you get a situation like Wigan, or indeed us, where the owner loads the debt onto the clubs books and expect them to be paid back by someone else.
If you enforced zero losses, with a massive, punative penalty I don't know say - 30 points, but allow owners/investors/fans to put money in as much money as equity or sponsorship that would be fine wouldn't it?
FFP is not to protect smaller clubs, it's to protect the "old money" clubs from any potential "new money" upstarts.
Had we played today he'd have been back in Exeter faster than you could have said his name