Only thing that's changed is they brought in a new PR guy
Buying cheap and selling on has always been our strategy. Why should that change, we aren’t Real Madrid.
If, and I appreciate that it is an if at this stage he, we do sign the best of league 1 and develop slowly, I’ll be happy. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this approach has worked for Brentford. Stoke spend big and where has that got them.
esi are not using Roland’s strategy. Bowyer isn’t being told who to pick and we are making bids for players. 2 differences for you as a starter
Always feel sad when I think of Charlton fans accepting a lowly status. Charlton were one of the biggest clubs in the country for decades. No reason why it couldn't happen again.
James, I've been saying that to myself since 1962. Even believed it once or twice
I hope we are all proved wrong but have to agree with others that this would be most unnecessary relegation ever. ESI should stop talking and start doing. After all the chat I dont feel we've moved on one bit from RD.
I understand what you are saying and agree to some degree that they do really need to give Bowyer enough to stay up this year weather that be good loans or signings.
Bowyer on a 3 year deal is a positive and step in the right direction compared to Roland and his 1 year contract.
ESI ownership of the club will be judge on much more than this January window but they are in danger of starting it off on the back foot with the fans, however it is just as important to lay the long term fondation of the club something Roland has never done.
One loan signing (Green) and Bowyer's contract so far if all they've achieved
No contracts for Jacko and Marshall yet No new contracts for existing players - Lyle obviously, but even getting someone like Doughty signed up on a longer deal would have been a good news story No existing loan signings signed permanently, which was an aim at the start of the window The loss of Gallagher (not their fault but adds to the need for urgent reinforcements) No perm or loan signings despite Bowyer constantly saying we needed them earlier in the window
A massive couple of days, followed by an equally massive game. No pressure Matt...
Yep in the short term the next 2 days and game on Saturday is massive.
I think after Friday over the next few months we will see the signs of longer term planning liek contracts for younger players etc.
The club has been left to rot for many years under Roland's ownership and it is going to take solid foundations being laid before we can really start moving forward. Bowyer on a 3 year deal is a start.
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
Interview on the official site doesn't read as bad. I'm hoping that Bowyer is just continuing his usual trait of being coy with the press, otherwise I really don't know what to think.
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
They took over in January as their strategy was to improve the squad.
I'm not sure what 'years of mismanagement' under RD has to do with that. According to MS they have inherited a lean structure which is set to break even this season.
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
Great post well written. - No need to panic just yet !
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
Remember when we signed Green on loan. M.S. made out that loan signing would not have been possible in the summer due to the new Owners now being able to manage demands in wages better......this kind of chat is what has unfortunately hooked people in.
Remember when we signed Green on loan. M.S. made out that loan signing would not have been possible in the summer due to the new Owners now being able to manage demands in wages better......this kind of chat is what has unfortunately hooked people in.
Interview on the official site doesn't read as bad. I'm hoping that Bowyer is just continuing his usual trait of being coy with the press, otherwise I really don't know what to think.
Do you think our comms team would put anything other than a positive spin on it?
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
We have a chairman who is an ex agent. We have Steve Gallen who has been under various titles head of recruitment for a number of years and we have Lee Bowyer. I understand that the January window is difficult but so do those mentioned above. The new owners either spend to protect their investment or risk the value of the club going down considerably before they even get their feet under the table. The January window is what it is. We are getting desperate for bodies and we might have to pay a little over the odds to get them. If those above didn’t know that or are working on a very tight budget then I am seriously worried about what lies ahead. No disrespect but the names being mentioned are not going to get us out of trouble.
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
Entitlement?? We want JCH to go with Taylor rather than replace him. We want a midfielder to replace our POTY to be. We want a back up defender. I think the majority on here seem pretty reasonable.
I am not going to challenge the nature of the transfer decisions being made at this time.
I have made clear what my expectations are in respect of the executive need to drive momentum, indicate progress and provide the support and resources to the manager to whom you have now given a 3.5yr contract but I am not sitting at the negotiating table.
I am uncomfortable with the nature of the dialogue on social media including much of the comment on this and other threads too much of it based on speculation, half truths, misinformation and peoples inability to read or listen properly.
I am however equally uncomfortable that again in a very short space of time the executive have not stepped ahead of this situation and cut off this noise before it started. For a fledgling business the perception of competence is everything.
The wrong noises permeate every part of your ability trade into areas you would never even think about.
We had the confusion over ownership of The Valley (which at this point is a distraction I will address elsewhere)
We had the confusion over Bowyers' contract.
We had the disappointment over Gallagher.
We have the concerns over Taylor.
These are however not just social media concerns. They are the concerns of clubhouse management and the players the executive is there to support.
Today we again we have another Managerial "briefing" which undermines the message of support and progress. Forget the noise on social media it is a message which will undermine the very fabric of your business.
Mr Southall I do not judge people on past financial challenges, I do not judge peoples long term value to contributing to any business until 6 months in situ. Hell even the most rabid financial media give major corporate CEOs 2 quarters trading before the knives come out.
Mr Southall I judge people not on personality but on performance.
Mr Southall just who is in control of this business?
If there is a message to be sent get control of it, deliver clarity and direction and send it yourself or people will make up their own and you will never pull it back
There is not enough time in the day to reactively manage any business.
The question for any executive is "Am I running this business or is this business running me?"
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
that is a very good description of what RD was doing
last summer under the previous owner we did not sell Lyle and brought in some good loans, now our manager is pleading with the new owner not to sell Lyle for what would probably be a smaller amount.
I'm glad RD has gone, I have tried to support the new owners but am finding that increasingly difficult when it seems they have not yet paid for the club and grounds and have so far been unable to strengthen our squad when the teams around us have done so, nor secured the complete management team with new contracts
I really hope that in the next 36ish hours I am proved very wrong
This thread is unbelievable. The sense of entitlement that some of our fans display is utterly cringe worthy.
If anyone genuinely believes that we are in a worse position now than we were under Roland then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
I have no idea what our budget is now and only know from snippets on here what it previously was.
MS has made no secret of the fact that this is a long term project, teams in the Championship are now being found out in relation to flouting FFP. Do people honestly think with our current revenue streams that it is credible for us to go and splash 3/4/5 million on players and God knows what else on wages? I don't profess to know the intricacies of FFP but I have seen the threat of points deductions. Do we want to risk that.
ESI are taking over years of mis-management and negligence and there is no way they can fix all of that in the 4/5 weeks they have actually owned the club.
People keep banding "disaster" round in respect of relegation. Why? We have been relegated before and will be again. If we go down this year it will be largely down to a horrific injury list and paltry squad Roland provided at the start of the season.
I have no idea whether ESI will be a long term success, I sincerely hope they are. If we only get a couple of loans in between now and the end of the window I certainly won't be spitting my dummy out and branding them failures.
Any change takes time, change that is undoing utter incompetency over a number of years will take even longer. It won't happen overnight.
As an aside, people.saying they have no money. Isn't part of the EFL test proof of funds? They may not have shelled out for all the fixtures and fittings yet, but they have a legal obligation to do so within a set time frame. I am guessing that they would have had to prove that they had the funding to do that.
We need to accept that the new owners are running a business and not going to come in an burn money to appease a disenfranchised fanbase.
Give them a chance, you never know in 2/3 years time we may be back up and challenging for promotion.
Fucking hell, are you the new PR guy?
To be fair @Clem_Snide I don't recall seeing anybody on here asking the club to spend "3,4,5 million on a player". Maybe I just missed that. I do see a lot of us seriously concerned that a hitherto lack of squad strengthening may harm our prospects of avoiding relegation. I do not accept your passive acceptance of relegation as some sort of unfortunate temporary setback to out long term project.
I had never heard of Lockyer, Cullen, Taylor, Gallagher, Field or Leko before they came in and, on paper, none of the looked ‘the right stuff’ but all have proven to be useful at this level. I, therefore, conclude that I know fuck all and Bowyer, Gallen & co. have a pretty good gauge on what is required.
Around 50% of posters here do seem to be in the wrong job though as they seem to be quite clear that they do know better.
We were second in the league before the injuries starting kicking in. With a full squad we can compete no doubt. We’ve lost Leko but gained Green. We’ve lost Gallagher who’s not been replaced but probably will be. However we’ve seen the emergence of Doughty and Matthews since the beginning of the season - I’d have both as starters now. I don’t see things as too bad but then I’m a glass half full kind of guy...
What entitlement? I feel like it's the other way round, people are so accustomed to mediocrity over the years that we have set the bar so low that a CEO showing up to games and sending out a few tweets is good stuff?
No one is asking for a miracle here, replace the players that we have lost and strengthen the squad. In what world is that entitlement? I just want Southall to back up his words, they bought us now to ensure survival in a nutshell. We are one day away from those words being bollocks. Truly bizarre that being worried about this can be referred to as being entitled.
Entitlement is the ManU fans saying their club is dead because they haven't won the league in 7 years. Enititlement is Arsenal fans sobbing about only having European tours every year. Apparently Charlton fans want one player to sign a long term contract and a few emergency bodies to help our bid in staying up = entitlement. I haven't seen any other request from a Charlton fan, didn't realise clubs fans wanting players when they were told there would be is seen as a bad thing
Ooo good... SKY have just mentioned that our transfer window closes @ 11pm tomorrow night
For Scottish clubs they've got until Midnight so if nothing heard by 11pm with regards to Lyle Taylor then dont instantly think he's staying with the club - Especially if Rangers are interested
I had never heard of Lockyer, Cullen, Taylor, Gallagher, Field or Leko before they came in and, on paper, none of the looked ‘the right stuff’ but all have proven to be useful at this level. I, therefore, conclude that I know fuck all and Bowyer, Gallen & co. have a pretty good gauge on what is required.
Around 50% of posters here do seem to be in the wrong job though as they seem to be quite clear that they do know better.
I had never heard of Lockyer, Cullen, Taylor, Gallagher, Field or Leko before they came in and, on paper, none of the looked ‘the right stuff’ but all have proven to be useful at this level. I, therefore, conclude that I know fuck all and Bowyer, Gallen & co. have a pretty good gauge on what is required.
Around 50% of posters here do seem to be in the wrong job though as they seem to be quite clear that they do know better.
good points well made .. however, I'd be more than happy if a few players I have never heard of signed on in the next 36ish hours if Bowyer & Co are happy with them .. the prospect of that happening doesn't look too hopeful though .. let's hope I am 110% wrong
Imagine the meltdown Saturday if we lose Tayler, no incomings & lose to Barnsley!
Can’t understand why ESI rushed through this deal in time for the transfer window! Going to get pelters!!!!!
Imagine we win on Saturday, Taylor plays and scores a goal.
Glass half empty vs glass half full
Nobody has done much yet this window. We are so used to the "We need bodies" line being rolled out but the fact is the midfield is nearly back to the beginning of the season (you know - when we were playing very well) and the players should, theoretically, be less fatigued than many of our opposition. Bonne will be fit soon, Hemed showed signs of being near to match fit last week, Aneke seems to have got fit and seemingly found some goalscoring boots whilst he was absent.
There is still 18 hours to go and I don't believe we won't sign anyone. Still very hopeful on Maddison. But the bottom line is our destiny is in our own hands. We have the players to stay up.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan, we all know that, but things ARE better than they were a couple of months ago and the future is, seemingly, bright. Just a slightly sticky patch to navigate at the moment
I am not going to challenge the nature of the transfer decisions being made at this time.
I have made clear what my expectations are in respect of the executive need to drive momentum, indicate progress and provide the support and resources to the manager to whom you have now given a 3.5yr contract but I am not sitting at the negotiating table.
I am uncomfortable with the nature of the dialogue on social media including much of the comment on this and other threads too much of it based on speculation, half truths, misinformation and peoples inability to read or listen properly.
I am however equally uncomfortable that again in a very short space of time the executive have not stepped ahead of this situation and cut off this noise before it started. For a fledgling business the perception of competence is everything.
The wrong noises permeate every part of your ability trade into areas you would never even think about.
We had the confusion over ownership of The Valley (which at this point is a distraction I will address elsewhere)
We had the confusion over Bowyers' contract.
We had the disappointment over Gallagher.
We have the concerns over Taylor.
These are however not just social media concerns. They are the concerns of clubhouse management and the players the executive is there to support.
Today we again we have another Managerial "briefing" which undermines the message of support and progress. Forget the noise on social media it is a message which will undermine the very fabric of your business.
Mr Southall I do not judge people on past financial challenges, I do not judge peoples long term value to contributing to any business until 6 months in situ. Hell even the most rabid financial media give major corporate CEOs 2 quarters trading before the knives come out.
Mr Southall I judge people not on personality but on performance.
Mr Southall just who is in control of this business?
If there is a message to be sent get control of it, deliver clarity and direction and send it yourself or people will make up their own and you will never pull it back
There is not enough time in the day to reactively manage any business.
The question for any executive is "Am I running this business or is this business running me?"
Mr Southall which is it?
Where’s the rest of the post, it’s about 3000 words too short! Disappointed!
Hypothetical but would people take Clarke-Harris, Maddison and Gnanduillet if it meant Taylor leaves ?
No no no. Never seen any of them play and none of them have a proven championship record . Selling our best player in January has never worked well - Parker, Reid, Kermorgant
But we never invested or replaced those players.
We did; we replaced Reid with Lee Cook, Kermorgant with Polish Pete and Reza..
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I think after Friday over the next few months we will see the signs of longer term planning liek contracts for younger players etc.
The club has been left to rot for many years under Roland's ownership and it is going to take solid foundations being laid before we can really start moving forward. Bowyer on a 3 year deal is a start.
I'm not sure what 'years of mismanagement' under RD has to do with that. According to MS they have inherited a lean structure which is set to break even this season.
I welcome Clems post.
I am not going to challenge the nature of the transfer decisions being made at this time.
I have made clear what my expectations are in respect of the executive need to drive momentum, indicate progress and provide the support and resources to the manager to whom you have now given a 3.5yr contract but I am not sitting at the negotiating table.
I am uncomfortable with the nature of the dialogue on social media including much of the comment on this and other threads too much of it based on speculation, half truths, misinformation and peoples inability to read or listen properly.
I am however equally uncomfortable that again in a very short space of time the executive have not stepped ahead of this situation and cut off this noise before it started. For a fledgling business the perception of competence is everything.
The wrong noises permeate every part of your ability trade into areas you would never even think about.
We had the confusion over ownership of The Valley (which at this point is a distraction I will address elsewhere)
We had the confusion over Bowyers' contract.
We had the disappointment over Gallagher.
We have the concerns over Taylor.
These are however not just social media concerns. They are the concerns of clubhouse management and the players the executive is there to support.
Today we again we have another Managerial "briefing" which undermines the message of support and progress. Forget the noise on social media it is a message which will undermine the very fabric of your business.
Mr Southall I do not judge people on past financial challenges, I do not judge peoples long term value to contributing to any business until 6 months in situ. Hell even the most rabid financial media give major corporate CEOs 2 quarters trading before the knives come out.
Mr Southall I judge people not on personality but on performance.
Mr Southall just who is in control of this business?
If there is a message to be sent get control of it, deliver clarity and direction and send it yourself or people will make up their own and you will never pull it back
There is not enough time in the day to reactively manage any business.
The question for any executive is "Am I running this business or is this business running me?"
Mr Southall which is it?
last summer under the previous owner we did not sell Lyle and brought in some good loans, now our manager is pleading with the new owner not to sell Lyle for what would probably be a smaller amount.
I'm glad RD has gone, I have tried to support the new owners but am finding that increasingly difficult when it seems they have not yet paid for the club and grounds and have so far been unable to strengthen our squad when the teams around us have done so, nor secured the complete management team with new contracts
I really hope that in the next 36ish hours I am proved very wrong
Maybe I just missed that.
I do see a lot of us seriously concerned that a hitherto lack of squad strengthening may harm our prospects of avoiding relegation.
I do not accept your passive acceptance of relegation as some sort of unfortunate temporary setback to out long term project.
Around 50% of posters here do seem to be in the wrong job though as they seem to be quite clear that they do know better.
No one is asking for a miracle here, replace the players that we have lost and strengthen the squad. In what world is that entitlement? I just want Southall to back up his words, they bought us now to ensure survival in a nutshell. We are one day away from those words being bollocks. Truly bizarre that being worried about this can be referred to as being entitled.
Entitlement is the ManU fans saying their club is dead because they haven't won the league in 7 years. Enititlement is Arsenal fans sobbing about only having European tours every year. Apparently Charlton fans want one player to sign a long term contract and a few emergency bodies to help our bid in staying up = entitlement. I haven't seen any other request from a Charlton fan, didn't realise clubs fans wanting players when they were told there would be is seen as a bad thing
For Scottish clubs they've got until Midnight so if nothing heard by 11pm with regards to Lyle Taylor then dont instantly think he's staying with the club - Especially if Rangers are interested
Glass half empty vs glass half full
Nobody has done much yet this window. We are so used to the "We need bodies" line being rolled out but the fact is the midfield is nearly back to the beginning of the season (you know - when we were playing very well) and the players should, theoretically, be less fatigued than many of our opposition.
Bonne will be fit soon, Hemed showed signs of being near to match fit last week, Aneke seems to have got fit and seemingly found some goalscoring boots whilst he was absent.
There is still 18 hours to go and I don't believe we won't sign anyone. Still very hopeful on Maddison. But the bottom line is our destiny is in our own hands. We have the players to stay up.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan, we all know that, but things ARE better than they were a couple of months ago and the future is, seemingly, bright. Just a slightly sticky patch to navigate at the moment
Disappointed!