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  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,467
    Still no sign of any East Street strategy - hard to tell until players are signed or sold. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,927
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    So Cawley is adamant that Clarke-Harris would be a Taylor replacement. You can kinda see the logic, sell Taylor for a couple of Million and invest it in a 25 year old who scored 20 in his last 29 league appearances on a 3 year deal. Or lose Taylor in the summer and lose that £2m.
    You lose more than 2 mil getting relegated and makes the 5 year plan a 8 year plan. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,382
    Return of the SE7 said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Rossman92 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Covered End said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Valley11 said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Peterborough owner said he'd discuss the Maddison saga on the SSN Transfer show tonight at 7. Anyone watching?
    Thought the same. You can watch it here 
    https://youtu.be/XkrpWZpCQlI
    Talking about Maddison now

    Maddison just couldnt agree terms with us after all terms had been agreed with Charlton and Peterborough

    Birmingham bids pretty much the same as ours

    Another mid-table Championship team about to sell two players, with that money they're likely to buy him tomorrow
    Grosicki is going to WBA, so Maddison is off to Hull presumably.
    Better geographically for him, and Grosicki would have been on high wages, so Hull could afford to pay Maddison a decent amount and still save money
    Living in Hull vs London though. Obviously never been but hasn't it been voted the worst place to live in England? Bless him
    Comments like this always make me laugh. It's not as if Maddison would be living in a tiny terraced house if he goes there. Bloke could probably buy a 4-5 bedroom house in the countryside for the price of a 2 bed down here.
    Just found a 5 bed detached house for 249k on  Rightmove!
    Are you going to buy it?
    No just found a 4 bed detached for 225k, keep this up and they’ll be giving em away, it’s like going back to the 1980’s up there!

    So, anyone on here know how to buy a house?
    It's a bit like buying a football club.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,373
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,927
    edited January 2020
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    Not many people expect that, just that we are still competitive this time on Saturday. I think people dont want our team that's arguably weaker than last season, to be even weaker for the last part of this season. 

    As for transparent, only need to buy the ground... to technically own nothing. Bowyer a priority, to bowyer after the window, to offering him a deal 24 hours later after it backfires. As of now he talks a good game, but transparent wouldn't be the wording I'd use. 
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,475
    Bedsaddick said:
    it seems obvious we are still trying to buy in the bargain basement department of footballers and that raises a very large red flag . If we sign a Rangers reserve just like we did with dodo and sell Taylor just like we did with Kermogant then nothing has changed from the last regime. We might as well still be owned by RD

    ( some would argue we are partially. )
    How do we know that?

    Why does it raise a flag? There have been plenty of examples of players moving up from lower leagues very successfully.

    If we can replace Taylor and get a very decent fee in the process allowing us to further invest is that a huge problem? He will go for a free in the summer unless he signs, of course I want to keep him and we know he is a proven goal scorer. If he wants away and won't accept his deal how much focus are we going to get? 

    In what way are might we still as well be owned by RD?

    The truth is none of know the conversations SG and his team are having with what players, most deals in January happen in the last two days. We are just entering that period... 

  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    Jonson Clarke-harris is probably the closest around to Taylor in style.
    Great- go all out to sign him in the summer.
    But if he is being signed to replace Taylor they can fecking do one.
    What Taylor brings to this team is so much more than goals - to us he is greater than the sum of his parts and nigh on irreplaceable like for like.
    As a statement of intent from the new owners this is a biggie.
    Don't get it wrong
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,467
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    Until players are signed or sold we're in the dark as to what the plans are. The main priority has to be to make sure we stay up.

    We can judge MS by his actions not his words.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,420
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    It feels like to some there are only two possibilities:

    1. We’re rich, funded by the Sheikh, we’ll buy our way to European glory

    2. ESI are chancers, are lying to us and have no money. As bad or possibly worse than Roland.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,540
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    ESI themselves said they planned to sign Taylor and Cullen on permanent deals.

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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,333
    A bit surprised we haven’t been linked with any Man City loans.

    The least one would expect from a chap from the city when he sees another chap in a bit of bother. Thin edge not to. 
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,920
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    So Cawley is adamant that Clarke-Harris would be a Taylor replacement. You can kinda see the logic, sell Taylor for a couple of Million and invest it in a 25 year old who scored 20 in his last 29 league appearances on a 3 year deal. Or lose Taylor in the summer and lose that £2m.
    Cawley is a journo reporting what he hears, he’s adamant what he’s heard, not adamant he knows what’s going to happen. Jesus get a grip.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.

    I think people know the transfer strategy, buy from the lower leagues , improve them as players and sell them. Which is why they were so keen on retaining Bowyer on his recent record with these sorts of players. I think having said they were keen to bring in re-inforcements in the transfer window, which is why they triggered the deal early on the purchase, we were expecting to see a bit more positve meovement on players up to this point.

    i expected to see a couple of loan signings from yougsters out of the prem and a couple of league 1 signings who have the scope to fit the MS model.  What i dont think anyone wants to see is Lyle Taylor heading out of the door at this point of the season.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,285
    catfordmorry said:
    Richard Cawley reports that Sam Field is fully fit and ready for Saturday.
    Excellent, one over the line.  When you include Cullen, Hemed and Taylor we have 4 new ones in so just one more to hit the 5 Bowyer wanted.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,373
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    Until players are signed or sold we're in the dark as to what the plans are. The main priority has to be to make sure we stay up.

    We can judge MS by his actions not his words.
    We're not in the dark. We've been told the plans are to sign lower league players and promote youth. To build a squad capable of promotion slowly and sustainably. MS has said it a few times.

    So I don't get the surprise/outrage when it turns out we're looking at lower league players.
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,475
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    It feels like to some there are only two possibilities:

    1. We’re rich, funded by the Sheikh, we’ll buy our way to European glory

    2. ESI are chancers, are lying to us and have no money. As bad or possibly worse than Roland.
    Or option 3, they have a plan to develop talent invest in the club over the next 5 years... 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,714
    Weegie Addick said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    ESI themselves said they planned to sign Taylor and Cullen on permanent deals.
    Plans dont always work out unfortunately. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,467
    Chunes said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    Until players are signed or sold we're in the dark as to what the plans are. The main priority has to be to make sure we stay up.

    We can judge MS by his actions not his words.
    We're not in the dark. We've been told the plans are to sign lower league players and promote youth. To build a squad capable of promotion slowly and sustainably. MS has said it a few times.

    So I don't get the surprise/outrage when it turns out we're looking at lower league players.
    We haven't done anything yet which is the point I'm making. I've heard what the strategy is but seen no evidence of it in action as yet.

    If signings are made in the next couple of days or players are sold I'll be a little clearer. Our short term priority has to be to stay up.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Some of the comments on here, the mind well and truly boggles
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,257
    Dazzler21 said:
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    So Cawley is adamant that Clarke-Harris would be a Taylor replacement. You can kinda see the logic, sell Taylor for a couple of Million and invest it in a 25 year old who scored 20 in his last 29 league appearances on a 3 year deal. Or lose Taylor in the summer and lose that £2m.
     Where do people get this adamancy from?







    A varying opinion there.
    100% this.  Adamant??? 

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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    cabbles said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    So Cawley is adamant that Clarke-Harris would be a Taylor replacement. You can kinda see the logic, sell Taylor for a couple of Million and invest it in a 25 year old who scored 20 in his last 29 league appearances on a 3 year deal. Or lose Taylor in the summer and lose that £2m.
     Where do people get this adamancy from?







    A varying opinion there.
    100% this.  Adamant??? 
     https://youtu.be/4B2a6l6wM2k
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    It feels like to some there are only two possibilities:

    1. We’re rich, funded by the Sheikh, we’ll buy our way to European glory

    2. ESI are chancers, are lying to us and have no money. As bad or possibly worse than Roland.




    No, that's just the kids on other social media.
    On CL other than one of Mrs Brown's boys, mainly adult questions have been asked of the Chairman. I have been waiting since Jan 2nd for an indication of their Philosophy and their investments.
    In 38 hours we will know for sure but in the next few hours the picture will emerge.


  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,467
    Is Docherty match fit if we sign him? Can he play Saturday?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,420
    AppyAddick said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    It feels like to some there are only two possibilities:

    1. We’re rich, funded by the Sheikh, we’ll buy our way to European glory

    2. ESI are chancers, are lying to us and have no money. As bad or possibly worse than Roland.
    Or option 3, they have a plan to develop talent invest in the club over the next 5 years... 
    Well yeah, I’m sure the reality will be somewhere in between the two.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    MS he would only LT if a silly offer came in, by that I was taking it to mean 10 million plus 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,927
    Chunes said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    Chunes said:
    Why are people surprised? MS has been very honest and transparent about the club's plans in the transfer market and yet somehow people were expecting something entirely different. I think many still seem to be getting over the disappointment that we're clearly not the next Man City.
    Until players are signed or sold we're in the dark as to what the plans are. The main priority has to be to make sure we stay up.

    We can judge MS by his actions not his words.
    We're not in the dark. We've been told the plans are to sign lower league players and promote youth. To build a squad capable of promotion slowly and sustainably. MS has said it a few times.

    So I don't get the surprise/outrage when it turns out we're looking at lower league players.
    No issue with lower league players as long as you dont become weaker in the short term when facing relegation, dont understand why people cant see the concern with this. 
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 1,923
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    Some of the comments on here, the mind well and truly boggles
    Just people expressing their varying opinions. It was ever thus. It would be both boring and surprising if everyone had the same take on things.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    It looks to me that Harris is the replacement for Taylor IF he goes. Crawley has heard something as he says he didn't make it up.

    Won't be a great start for the new "owners" first game of we loose Taylor and loose against Barnsley.

    We never have a good Jan transfer window even before Roland.

    Best we can hope for Taylor stays, Harris comes in,Rangers reserve comes in.

    Be prepared for the usual "we made loads of bids" and the obligatory disapointment.


  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Taylor the key here 
    Retain him until the end of the season and bring in some developing players and that will probably do the trick to keep us up.
    Sell him and just bring in squad/developing  players then we could well be in trouble. 
  • SwingForward
    SwingForward Posts: 146
    So with the transfer merry go round just starting to turn does this look logical regarding Lyle ? - 
    Bristol City will get Nakhi Wells so that means they are no longer interested in a striker. 
    QPR lost Wells so they are looking for a replacement and also Brentford have had an eye on him for a while. - They must be his only 2 destinations.
    Peterborough have priced everyone out the market for Toney at £10million so hes staying at Posh. 

    We get JCH , Hemed, Bonne , Davison plus a loan as our striker options -  Is that enough until May ?? 

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