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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • CAFCDB
    CAFCDB Posts: 34
    ross1 said:
    CAFCDB said:
    CAFCDB said:
    CAFCDB said:
    My view on the JCH bid is that he is a replacement for Lyle. Brentford have probably come back in for him, esp after losing last night & that's why we have put in a (late) bid for him. 

    I know RD supposedly said our bid for Toney last August was not a replacement for Taylor, but I dont buy that bullshit.....esp when it was with RD in charge. 

    At least we are looking at buying decent in form & experienced strikers (Toney, Gnadduillet & JCH) rather than very young loanees from Spurs, Watford or Norwich. 
    Cawley has already said our Toney bid was as a replacement for Taylor so it was massive BS from Roland 
    It was Bowyer who said that not RD.
    Either way Roland had no intention of playing Taylor and Toney alongside each other 
    How do you know that?
    Because Cawley revealed our bid for Toney was as a replacement for Lyle....
    LB said he was to play alongside Taylor, depends whether you believe Cawley or LB
    ross1 said:
    CAFCDB said:
    CAFCDB said:
    CAFCDB said:
    My view on the JCH bid is that he is a replacement for Lyle. Brentford have probably come back in for him, esp after losing last night & that's why we have put in a (late) bid for him. 

    I know RD supposedly said our bid for Toney last August was not a replacement for Taylor, but I dont buy that bullshit.....esp when it was with RD in charge. 

    At least we are looking at buying decent in form & experienced strikers (Toney, Gnadduillet & JCH) rather than very young loanees from Spurs, Watford or Norwich. 
    Cawley has already said our Toney bid was as a replacement for Taylor so it was massive BS from Roland 
    It was Bowyer who said that not RD.
    Either way Roland had no intention of playing Taylor and Toney alongside each other 
    How do you know that?
    Because Cawley revealed our bid for Toney was as a replacement for Lyle....
    LB said he was to play alongside Taylor, depends whether you believe Cawley or LB
    Yes of course, that may have been the officially line in the summer to not cause any backlash but Cawley said this a few weeks ago so the truth probably came to light later on when bows could tell the truth 
  • Johnson Clarke-Harris has form at the Valley.

    12/05/2015 v Rotherham he was electric. A real brute for one so young at the time. He had decent pace, great touch and great appetite for imposing himself on the game.

    It really stood out that performance and so have always been warm to the idea of him playing. He hasn't kicked on but I would be totally whelmed at the potential of this one. He is still just 25.

    Very similar to Bonne...very similar type of football style. I have no issue with that, need a striker to take the fight and put himself about a bit.

    Really hope it happens and that it's a good fit for both JCH and CAFC.


  • I wouldn't have wanted it, but if we HAD signed Toney in August as a direct replacement for Lyle, then it wouldn't have been a bad bit of business actually, as shown by how much his value seems to have gone up since then.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,200
    I wouldn't have wanted it, but if we HAD signed Toney in August as a direct replacement for Lyle, then it wouldn't have been a bad bit of business actually, as shown by how much his value seems to have gone up since then.
    He'd be injured. 
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Maddison would probably prefer Hull given he’s from that way... well, he was born in Durham but you get the point.
    Yeah, it's all a karzi
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    I wouldn't have wanted it, but if we HAD signed Toney in August as a direct replacement for Lyle, then it wouldn't have been a bad bit of business actually, as shown by how much his value seems to have gone up since then.
    I said that at the time and got pelters for it.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,415
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Someone on Facebook says it'll be announced tomorrow.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited January 2020
    Really don’t get why we’re not going all out for Maddison at this point. He’s exactly what we need 
    I just don't understand why this comment has got so many likes.

    Like Envy. It's not attractive.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    Scoham said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Someone on Facebook says it'll be announced tomorrow.
    Facebook makes the other forms of social media look like bastions of truth.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,803
    So Docherty is on his way? That slipped under the radar with all the nonsense re: Clarke-Harris and then Maddison.

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  • So Docherty is on his way? That slipped under the radar with all the nonsense re: Clarke-Harris and then Maddison.
    Certainly wont be the only deal to slip under the radar if it does happen

    To be fair thats the way I prefer transfers to be done
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,415
    cfgs said:
    Scoham said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Someone on Facebook says it'll be announced tomorrow.
    Facebook makes the other forms of social media look like bastions of truth.
    I thought we were desperate for rumours? Stop moaning and get behind the team rumour.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Think Bowyer will do wonders for Docherty. If I was a 23 year old CM needing game time, there’s not many better you could learn under at this level than Bowyer. Granted he’d prefer it under Gerrard but that ain’t happening for him.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Jamie19 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Jamie19 said:
    Hypothetical but would people take Clarke-Harris, Maddison and Gnanduillet if it meant Taylor leaves ? 
    No no no.  Never seen any of them play and none of them have a proven championship record .  Selling our best player in January has never worked well - Parker, Reid, Kermorgant
    But we never invested or replaced those players.
    But it was OK when Kermorgant left because we signed Reza and Polish Pete. You can read the comments saying exactly that on here.
    We shouldn't have sold Yann, when we did, I don't think anyone would argue with that. 

    We should never have signed Polish Pete or Reza, I don't think anyone would argue with that. 

    But people seem to forget we stayed up that season.  The later half of the next season we played some of the most exciting attacking football I have ever seen at the Valley.  We didn't get relegated because we sold Yann, or signed Polish.

    I can't imagine many people left the Hull game, 18 months after we sold Yann, moaning about it.  Selling Yann was a symptom, not the cause of our problems.  Yann wasn't sold with the best intentions of the club, the team or the fans at the forefront.

    Like Walsh, Hales, Flanagan, Bent, Grant, Gorman, Polish Pete, Reza, and countless others, Taylor will leave one day.  Maybe it will be a stick to beat MS with, maybe it will be a stick that is never used, maybe he will be forgotten 6 months later.

    Charlton fans, generally, seem to get overly attached to certain players, and defend them with all their heart.  That's an good thing, some times it's missed placed. Mr Morrison is the best example, of recent years. 

    I did a points per game, and average league position of a Charlton legends last 100 games for the club, it makes grim reading for those that wouldn't criticise him, but I think it's meaning full.  If you want it for VotV just PM :wink:


    You can always pick out odd games or short sequences of matches, but we never got anywhere near replacing Kermorgant in the side until 2018 and that was one of the reasons we went down in 2016 and stayed down for three years. My comment has nothing to do with ESI, it's about the endless ability of football fans in general to swallow and regurgitate any old nonsense in these situations. If we sell Taylor, we will be more likely to go down, as we were in 2014 after we sold Kermorgant.

    Yes Taylor is good, yes we are better with him (at present) than with out him but we aren't a one man team.
    The only game we've won since the 19th October was the only game Taylor played from start to finish, which was Bristol C on Boxing Day.
    How many minutes did Taylor play against Leeds at the Valley?

    1) none
    2) I can't remember
    3) whataboutery

    How many games have we lost, since the 19th of October that Johnny Williams has played the full 90 minutes. 

    1) none
    2) none
    3) what was the question? 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,475
    Chirivella in Liverpool U23 side against wolves tonight.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    Scoham said:
    cfgs said:
    Scoham said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Someone on Facebook says it'll be announced tomorrow.
    Facebook makes the other forms of social media look like bastions of truth.
    I thought we were desperate for rumours? Stop moaning and get behind the team rumour.
    I apologise profusely for my cynical nature, I shall now turn over a new leaf and believe everything I am told.....just off to move emails out of the junk folder on my computer. Who knew I owned so many diamond mines via recently dead distant relatives.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,381
    stonemuse said:
    The person who posted that rambling load of nonsense and abuse really is an embarrassment to his family and most Charlton supporters!! We have new owners who have been 'in-situ' just 27 days and yet they are 'insisting' we get players now. The bloody transfer window doesnt close for another 3 days, they have no idea, as do any of us, what is going on behind the scenes, who we may be close to signing or have already signed etc etc. I would absolutely love it, that if come Friday at 11 pm, we have announced 3, 4 or even 5 good signings. A lot of people on most social media who have been slagging off ESI and MS are going to look bloody stupid, especially the prat who wrote that 'diatribe' on HE Instagram account!!! Bloody idiot!! 
    Social media has created an ‘I want it now’ philosophy, and a need by some to be publicly indignant. Impatience seems to be their motto. 

    Many of these people are the epitome of the old time ‘pub bore’ who seemed to have an opinion on everything but ... like the one or two we have on CL ...  they could be ignored. 

    I do use social media, and find it useful and entertaining, but posting this on HE’s Instagram is just a ridiculous ‘look-at-me’ approach. 


    Face to face with MS, in a one to one, he’d be as meek as a little baby lamb. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,018
    Sage said:
    Chirivella in Liverpool U23 side against wolves tonight.
    This is what I fail to understand, with many players. But at 22 (23 in May), if you’re not anywhere near the first team of your club in the league, you’re never going to play for them. He’s played 6 games for Liverpool in cup competitions in his career. It’s surely best to move on and get regular first team football elsewhere and develop your career rather than constantly stagnating it.
    Must be the money 

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  • jondon76
    jondon76 Posts: 294
    ross1 said:
    Docherty not in Rangers squad tonight
    Never is is he?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,486
    edited January 2020
    Redrobo said:
    Addickted said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Have we signed him then?
    mart77 said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Is that confirmed?
    Not confirmed, but pretty confident it's happening.

    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Source ?

    According to some, my made up source B)
    I believe.
    .
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Sky says Bristol City closing in on a deal for Nahki Wells. Good news for us if this means they cool interest in Lyle.

    we just need Brentford to fuck off now
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    jondon76 said:
    ross1 said:
    Docherty not in Rangers squad tonight
    Never is is he?
    Spat me Horlicks out when I read that
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    stonemuse said:
    Sage said:
    Chirivella in Liverpool U23 side against wolves tonight.
    This is what I fail to understand, with many players. But at 22 (23 in May), if you’re not anywhere near the first team of your club in the league, you’re never going to play for them. He’s played 6 games for Liverpool in cup competitions in his career. It’s surely best to move on and get regular first team football elsewhere and develop your career rather than constantly stagnating it.
    Must be the money 
    He’s out of contract in the summer. Will be interesting to see what happens with him, although I still hope we manage to sign him before Friday.

    But of course it’s the money. Just he could still have a very good career being paid handsomely at Championship level with the aim of getting into the Premier League in a couple of years. 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,486
    Addickted said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Have we signed him then?
    mart77 said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Is that confirmed?
    Not confirmed, but pretty confident it's happening.

    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Source ?

    According to some, my made up source B)
    Actually, I think it’s your sources source that makes this stuff up Nick. :|
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    Dizzle said:
    Sky says Bristol City closing in on a deal for Nahki Wells. Good news for us if this means they cool interest in Lyle.

    we just need Brentford to fuck off now
    Where are they getting that kind of money from? Wasnt £7 million touted?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,029
    I would like to add that the January transfer window can be a bit like an auction.

    Lots of frustrated comments that we've only got Green in on loan (yes I'm frustrated as well).

    But most clubs and players are still mid auction and are waiting for higher bids. 

    The majority of deals happens when the auction is coming to a close ie in the last few days and specifically on the final day.

    Surely we all know this if we're honest ?
    I posted this on the 15th January. 
    The auction/poker is coming to a close. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Addickted said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Have we signed him then?
    mart77 said:
    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Is that confirmed?
    Not confirmed, but pretty confident it's happening.

    Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Source ?

    According to some, my made up source B)
    Actually, I think it’s your sources source that makes this stuff up Nick. :|
    Well, we'll see tomorrow :*
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,029
    ChiAddick said:
    Dizzle said:
    Sky says Bristol City closing in on a deal for Nahki Wells. Good news for us if this means they cool interest in Lyle.

    we just need Brentford to fuck off now
    Where are they getting that kind of money from? Wasnt £7 million touted?
    Either a loan or from their billionaire owner Stephen Lansdown (Hargreaves Lansdown).