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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • Nahki Wells going to Bristol City
  • Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Have we signed him then?
  • The value of staying in the Championship is far greater than the price we will get for Lyle
    It really is as simple as that.
  • Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Is that confirmed?
  • Let’s not blame Roland. Any failures in this window are nothing to do with him. 
    Yep exactly.

    The more I think about the last couple of windows under Roland, the more I realise that LB / Gallen were equipped to do some good stuff. We had an excellent last couple of windows under RDs tenure. Really strong.

    ESI need to surpass Roland at the absolute minimum. They cant be immune to criticism - if Roland was overseeing this month up to now there would be uproar.
  • Addickted said:
    Sounds like our midfield problems have been resolved by the loan signing of Ranger's Greg Docherty.

    More a wigwam than a marquee.
    Source ?
  • Sounds like we're going to miss out on Maddison then.
  • Seeing as everyone, from clubs through to fans reckon the January transfer window is a waste of time & effort.....with v few decent players available and the ones that are are over-priced....then why not scrap it. Just have one window from June to August & once the season starts then that's it. 

    No....? Because teams like us need to strengthen. Replace players who are out injured or just out of form or teams on the cusp of relegation /promotion want a lift.

    Which camp are you in....?
    Fair question. The teams who have the ability to spend an obscene amount of money are in the league above us. I've always thought that the January window is just a dick measuring contest amongst the extremely wealthy teams to see who can pay the most for a player. From a business stand point, I really dont think overpaying for a player like Toney is sustainable. Money talks in football and I absolutely hate it. There's always the chance to pick up a good player early, but if we seem too eager and chuck a giant amount of cash at one player early in the window, the other clubs will expect that we'd do the same for the rest of the window, and it makes it impossible to make sensible deals for the rest of the window. The first 3 weeks of the window are a joke. When we wait it out, the better deals come. So no, I dont think the January window should be scrapped, I just wish the footballing world had a sense of reality

    I know we are miles away from that 
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  • Addickted said:
    Not confirmed, but pretty confident it's happening.


    According to some, my made up source B)
    I believe.
  • Redrobo said:
    I believe.
    I actually think he will be a useful signing. Would still like Maddison or the Watford CM as well though. Different roles.
  • Confident if Bow has chosen a CM he will be able to get the most out of him.
  • Think we were always going to tbh. He wants to move back up north. If he really wanted to sign for us im sure a deal wouldve been struck by now
    It’s not that simple. He wants to go up North but it’s not just him to consider...he has a young family 
  • Docherty not in Rangers squad tonight
  • You can always pick out odd games or short sequences of matches, but we never got anywhere near replacing Kermorgant in the side until 2018 and that was one of the reasons we went down in 2016 and stayed down for three years. My comment has nothing to do with ESI, it's about the endless ability of football fans in general to swallow and regurgitate any old nonsense in these situations. If we sell Taylor, we will be more likely to go down, as we were in 2014 after we sold Kermorgant.
    But its OK to regurgitate any old nonsense that we got relegated in 2014, because we sold Yann , because we didn't. 

    We didn't get relegated 2 years later because Yann wasn't there. 

    Yes Taylor is good, yes we are better with him (at present) than with out him but we aren't a one man team.  He isn't "that good" we recovered from the loss of Mendonca, Hunt, BWP, even Yann, even Parker.  The fact things went the shape of a pear years later isn't as simple as that.  With 2020 vision we should have sold Mendonca, Hunt, and BWP after promotion. As an example. 
  • You can always pick out odd games or short sequences of matches, but we never got anywhere near replacing Kermorgant in the side until 2018 and that was one of the reasons we went down in 2016 and stayed down for three years. My comment has nothing to do with ESI, it's about the endless ability of football fans in general to swallow and regurgitate any old nonsense in these situations. If we sell Taylor, we will be more likely to go down, as we were in 2014 after we sold Kermorgant.
    While selling Yann was a mistake, to be fair it was more the lousy signings in the summer of 2015 which relegated us at the end of that season. AND having the worst manager in our history in charge for several months! 

    I'm still suspicious of Bournemouth around that period too, flouting FFP rules (which helped them give Yann a much better deal than us) to get promoted


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  • I just don't understand why this comment has got so many likes.

    What does 'go all out for Maddison' even mean. Because our owner has lots of money should we just give him what he asks for?

    What if 'going all out for Maddison' means making him the highest paid player at the club. Is he worth that investment? Remember this is a player who has never played above League One Level and has been rumoured to have an attitude issue. 

    If 'we go all out for Maddison' how does that affect other players we want to bring in this window. Will their agents demand more money now as they believe there player, who has championship experience, should be close to wages to Maddison.

    If 'we go all out for Maddison' how does him coming into the squad on high wages effect the current squad. Will they want better contracts? Or will team moral be affected as someone has come in with less experience then them but is earning more money.
    Or more simply, how do we know we haven't gone all out for Maddison?

    He might be happy to wait until Friday to decide, regardless of what we offer.
  • How do you know that?
    Because Cawley revealed our bid for Toney was as a replacement for Lyle....
  • CAFCDB said:
    Because Cawley revealed our bid for Toney was as a replacement for Lyle....
    LB said he was to play alongside Taylor, depends whether you believe Cawley or LB
  • Maddison would probably prefer Hull given he’s from that way... well, he was born in Durham but you get the point.
  • Scoham said:
    Or more simply, how do we know we haven't gone all out for Maddison?

    He might be happy to wait until Friday to decide, regardless of what we offer.
    Ha ha, indeed. I added that to the end of my rant. 

    I understand this is a forum for debate, and fans are frustrated because they are worried we might get relegated and want to express those views. But it irks me how fans seem to simplify football transfers without thinking about them in a wider context.

    Once again if you've not seen it, watch that Chris Wilder documentary footage and it will least give you some idea of what goes on. It's just not a simple case of waving your magic money wand and getting the players in. 
  • edited January 2020
    I just don't understand why this comment has got so many likes.

    What does 'go all out for Maddison' even mean. Because our owner has lots of money should we just give him what he asks for?

    What if 'going all out for Maddison' means making him the highest paid player at the club. Is he worth that investment? Remember this is a player who has never played above League One Level and has been rumoured to have an attitude issue. 

    If 'we go all out for Maddison' how does that affect other players we want to bring in this window. Will their agents demand more money now as they believe there player, who has championship experience for example, should be close to wages to Maddison.

    If 'we go all out for Maddison' how does him coming into the squad on high wages effect the current squad. Will they want better contracts? Or will team moral be affected as someone has come in with less experience then them but is earning more money.

    How do you know Bowyer and Gallen didn't go 'all out for Maddison' and deemed his wage demands not worth it?
    I think we did go all out for him but its so far not been enough, whether that's money wise or out current state as a team/club who knows. 
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