Didn't take long - Marseille ain't changed.
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Thiscarly burn said:Unfortunately the plod, and for that matter the French in general couldn't care less if the Brits get a bit of a kick in.
Looks to me as though it's being actively encouraged.
you got a group of Russians running about all day looking like their on a stag do our leader has picked up on it why not the french
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You'd have to have a death wish to consider going to the 2018 World cup.
Who would seriously bother going all that way just to be beaten up by Russian hooligans and their police.2 -
I was gonna hitch-hike to Toulouse this week to see The Who. Think I'll give it a miss... don't really fancy hours of talking about football violence or people moaning to me about the English...0
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Ahh the advantage of being Scottish, I won't have the option of watching them at the World Cup...Chris_from_Sidcup said:You'd have to have a death wish to consider going to the 2018 World cup.
Who would seriously bother going all that way just to be beaten up by Russian hooligans and their police.
(I will be there IF we qualify)
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Possible Russian points deduction.0
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To be honest that is a clip of a running battle.AFKABartram said:Russians were simply running a mock and clearing everything in their path through the day it seems. Video below a fair example. The policing has been absolutely shocking, from what I've seen its been largely two or three groups of 50-100 Russians that must have got into about 20+ confrontations through the day. Crazy how they were allowed to roam so free.
They've got some energy about them I'll give them that. Overdosed on steriods, red bull and protein barshttps://youtu.be/IZxXrjC_65I
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The Russian top brass do it, so it's no surprise that the citizens copy them. Another unsavoury example of Putin the boot in.5
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Sounds to me that Russia need to be kicked out of the competition and not given a meaningless fine. The decision to hold the 2018 World Cup should be taken out of the responsibility of FIFA and even at this short notice moved. The Yanks could hack it. Russia as a nation are about as corrupt as you can get. They cheat at everything and given the revelations surrounding FIFA I'm confident that they bought the World Cup.
I feel sorry for those innocents caught up in this mayhem. A sizeable proportion of England fans will not have been blameless but this has gone beyond madness.
I've never understood football violence and despise the morons that find it acceptable and funny.
I hope every fan in France stays safe. As for the Russians. Kick em out along with their fans.
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When you look at those scenes throughout the day and then read that only 4 or 5 Russian fans and 4 or 5 English fans were arrested it is staggering. Those riot police, despite wearing all the gear seemed not only clueless but timid. Were they just ordinary police with a couple of weeks extra training?1
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Bin men are going to be busy this morning.2
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Like it or not I stand by what I said sitting ducks, where are the Russian banning orders ?3
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They've been on strike for a while.Hastingsaddick said:Bin men are going to be busy this morning.
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Seems that a group of 100 or so Russian "ultras" we're able to steam around town all day.Red_in_SE8 said:When you look at those scenes throughout the day and then read that only 4 or 5 Russian fans and 4 or 5 English fans were arrested it is staggering. Those riot police, despite wearing all the gear seemed not only clueless but timid. Were they just ordinary police with a couple of weeks extra training?
How difficult would it be for a couple of hundred riot police to round them up and deport them.
The French Police have a lot of explaining to do .
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Just so you know, you got a lol from me for last comment not other bits you said.McBobbin said:French police showing themselves to be inept, Russians showing themselves to be scum
As for the idea that banned English fans should be let in... yeah, that will make things better, more wankers.
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The trouble is the French police are so worried about a Terrorist incident, they are not focused on anything else.0
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Which is why the security was so lax as to allow flares and detonators into the stadium ?All_Thaid_Up said:The trouble is the French police are so worried about a Terrorist incident, they are not focused on anything else.
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Piers Morgan has stormed into the debate, asking 'is there anything more embarrassing and pathetic than English hooligans', 'phone tapping dead kids?' was one suggestion...23
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Thing is Bob, in my opinion, when the authorities are not doing their job, people have a right to protect themselves, a lot of those English there over last few days haven't been up for doing that and there is absolutely nowt wrong with that. But, as Steve says, it made them sitting ducks. If there was more game bloke there, they'd divert the attention away from the others at the very least.McBobbin said:French police showing themselves to be inept, Russians showing themselves to be scum
As for the idea that banned English fans should be let in... yeah, that will make things better, more wankers.
What a time to be alive!
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To be quite honest, before the last few days, I would've laughed at that, but not nowcarly burn said:Unfortunately the plod, and for that matter the French in general couldn't care less if the Brits get a bit of a kick in.
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Chicken and egg though. Logically if we'd never had an "element" then we wouldn't be a target.MillwallFan said:
If it wasn't for our 'element' our normal fans would've been in serious trouble in Budapest in 2004i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not right, but that doesn't mean it ain't correct.Exiled_Addick said:
Ah, the NRA defence.northstandsteve said:Millwallfan called it right a few pages back, we are sitting ducks out there because of banning orders, have always said, you need a element to back up normal fans otherwise they will get the shit, fuckin disgusted by this tonite , stay safe Organiser and all other English out there
Same way that Rep Ireland and New Zealand fans probably have relatively trouble free experiences and the same way that a Fulham or Orient fan can probably travel the country without people looking for trouble with them in the same way they would Millwall or West Ham.
Why don't all "elements" all meet up in a large empty forest somewhere and have it together undisturbed every weekend and let the rest of us get on with going to football and without the general pubic seeing people acting up in town centres every time a bunch of inadequates rock up trying to assert some sort of deluded kudos . Could even do a world cup or Euros for themselves and I'm sure Channel 5 or someone would pick it up for viewers who pull themselves off over that sort of thing.
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Dunno, my mate said his missus was there last weekend having it with a gang of Russians.Godstone said:I shall be holidaying in Devon instead - cream teas and no Russian Ultras.
Much more Charlton.
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UEFA should organise a Hunger Games style contest in some uninhabited wasteland away from the cities for all who want to fight, to allow the proper supporters to enjoy themselves without fear of being bottled, teargassed or generally bothered by the pond life of all countries.0
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NorwoodCharltonMadrid said:UEFA should organise a Hunger Games style contest in some uninhabited wasteland away from the cities for all who want to fight, to allow the proper supporters to enjoy themselves without fear of being bottled, teargassed or generally bothered by the pond life of all countries.
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And the winner gets to light the first match at S******* Park.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
NorwoodCharltonMadrid said:UEFA should organise a Hunger Games style contest in some uninhabited wasteland away from the cities for all who want to fight, to allow the proper supporters to enjoy themselves without fear of being bottled, teargassed or generally bothered by the pond life of all countries.
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Currently awaiting for the airbnb host to reply as it seems like she's got cold feet about renting out her apartment for the week because of the last few days. Excellent. If only we had a bigger firm out there.6
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Haha, it's no Grove park but the Mrs lives there so got to visit it more than I'd likei_b_b_o_r_g said:
NorwoodCharltonMadrid said:UEFA should organise a Hunger Games style contest in some uninhabited wasteland away from the cities for all who want to fight, to allow the proper supporters to enjoy themselves without fear of being bottled, teargassed or generally bothered by the pond life of all countries.
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Meanwhile, people are running for their lives or getting their heads kicked in.olster said:Currently awaiting for the airbnb host to reply as it seems like she's got cold feet about renting out her apartment for the week because of the last few days. Excellent. If only we had a bigger firm out there.
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Had a shop at Grove Park BR StationC_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Haha, it's no Grove park but the Mrs lives there so got to visit it more than I'd likei_b_b_o_r_g said:
NorwoodCharltonMadrid said:UEFA should organise a Hunger Games style contest in some uninhabited wasteland away from the cities for all who want to fight, to allow the proper supporters to enjoy themselves without fear of being bottled, teargassed or generally bothered by the pond life of all countries.
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Did you? What did it sell?0