The AFP news agency are reporting that Northern Ireland fans have been drawn into fighting in Nice.
According to a Northern Ireland police officer accompanying fans at the scene, French riot police moved in after local Nice youths hurled bottles at Northern Ireland supporters in cafes near the central Place Massena.
"About 20 to 30 Nice youths started throwing bottles at the Northern Ireland fans. Some bottles were thrown back, some punches were thrown," the officer said.
"French police arrived to contain the situation."
French youths. Again. French police late to react. Again.
How many more times will we have to say "again", considering this is only day 2?
Genuinely, if there's been a fan murdered on the metro and two fighting for their lives in hospital right now then perhaps we should look at withdrawing. The French appear to be completely inept, and setting this precedent may cast a light on the utter idiocy of hosting a World Cup in Russia.
Rumours circulating of an England fan being thrown under a Metro train and pronounced dead on the scene
It's being circulated by a "journalist" from the "Forest Echo News". A fake news outlet that I thought were content with having fun starting bullsh*t transfer rumours, but apparently they can sink another level.
Blimey I knew it would be bad but bloody hell! I hope everyone gets home safe, this has to be one of the worst acts of hooliganism in history.
No way mate get shootings and full scale riots and stuff in South America at games and murders in Africa etc just doesn't get the same coverage.
Social media and rolling news make everything seem so much more out of proportion. Not to say it's not just a mere kerfuffle of course.
Think a game in the former Yugoslavia ignited tensions at the outset of the Balkans conflict (I vaguely remember Boban fly kicking a fan) and I'm sure I read once there was a civil war somewhere like Peru decades back that was sparked by a football match.
This will all get more coverage.shock and disapproval that what's going on in Syria and other parts of the world which is pretty nuts when you think about it.
My eldest son, Christian, is out there for the month going to most of the England matches but also has tickets for other games too. Just for the football. He was in a bar with his friends watching the Wales game when they got stormed by 50 Marseille fans. He says he was fortunate that he "only" got a kick in the side.
Then he was in the end stormed by the Russian "supporters" but, again, fortunately had just left before it happened. He's just there for the football but, whilst there are going to be some just out there for trouble, a lot aren't but are targeted just because they are English.
His last message to me was "at least it wasn't ISIS". Such is the world we live in.
The French are supposed to be on high alert for terrorist attacks, their forces may be stretched but so far also seem inept.
You try this shit in the UK now and you'll have the horses in in virtually no time. Probably have the army in during the group stages as for the olympics when G4 blatantly couldn't handle it.
Dan Roan was just saying on BBC NEWS that the loud bang before the final whistle and just as the Russian fans stormed into the neutral/England area looks like it was a stunning grenade type device
The French are supposed to be on high alert for terrorist attacks, their forces may be stretched but so far also seem inept.
You try this shit in the UK now and you'll have the horses in in virtually no time. Probably have the army in during the group stages as for the olympics when G4 blatantly couldn't handle it.
Interesting article on the French police tactics here:
Safely back where we are staying now but never been so scared in 40+ years of following football. Always taken the view that you are very unlikely to find trouble if you don't go looking for it but not the case today. We watched Wales match in Bar about 15/20 mins walk on main route to stadium. As we set off from the bar we saw an ominous black clad group marching up the street behind us. We moved over to the side then watched in horror as they ran past, now with masks over their faces and jumped on an England fan whose only 'crime' was to be draped in a flag.
Totally unprovoked and I hope the lad is OK. We ran off down side streets but I now know what tear gas is. Appalling lack of any proper policing / crowd control by French. Their only answer is tear gas. No sign of any normal policing. And what happened in stadium at end was also horrific - we were well away from it fortunately.
Think a game in the former Yugoslavia ignited tensions at the outset of the Balkans conflict (I vaguely remember Boban fly kicking a fan) and I'm sure I read once there was a civil war somewhere like Peru decades back that was sparked by a football match.
I think the Yugoslavia match was Dinamo Zagreb v Red Star Belgrade
And the Latin American war was between El Salvador and either Honduras or Nicaragua (whichever one borders El Salvador)
Safely back where we are staying now but never been so scared in 40+ years of following football. Always taken the view that you are very unlikely to find trouble if you don't go looking for it but not the case today. We watched Wales match in Bar about 15/20 mins walk on main route to stadium. As we set off from the bar we saw an ominous black clad group marching up the street behind us. We moved over to the side then watched in horror as they ran past, now with masks over their faces and jumped on an England fan whose only 'crime' was to be draped in a flag.
Totally unprovoked and I hope the lad is OK. We ran off down side streets but I now know what tear gas is. Appalling lack of any proper policing / crowd control by French. Their only answer is tear gas. No sign of any normal policing. And what happened in stadium at end was also horrific - we were well away from it fortunately.
A very similar story to the one my son texted me with. So that's two normal football supporters and probably tens of thousands who will confirm the same.
But is some of our media really interested in the truth? And are some people so gullible to think that we are the only nation with trouble makers?
Complete agree @alwaysneil and I i didn't mean to disregard everything else that's happened over the past few days.
I'm going out to marseille for a week on Tuesday. Not seeing any England games. have been looking forward to it for months and now I'm getting nervous about having beers in the sun with my mates. This is 2016 ffs.
Safely back where we are staying now but never been so scared in 40+ years of following football. Always taken the view that you are very unlikely to find trouble if you don't go looking for it but not the case today. We watched Wales match in Bar about 15/20 mins walk on main route to stadium. As we set off from the bar we saw an ominous black clad group marching up the street behind us. We moved over to the side then watched in horror as they ran past, now with masks over their faces and jumped on an England fan whose only 'crime' was to be draped in a flag.
Totally unprovoked and I hope the lad is OK. We ran off down side streets but I now know what tear gas is. Appalling lack of any proper policing / crowd control by French. Their only answer is tear gas. No sign of any normal policing. And what happened in stadium at end was also horrific - we were well away from it fortunately.
A very similar story to the one my son texted me with. So that's two normal football supporters and probably tens of thousands who will confirm the same.
Make that three, my eldest son is out there too, he's staying out of town and hasn't ventured into the harbour bars. Said the Russain charge was frightening but he and his mates got back safely to their apartment.
Safely back where we are staying now but never been so scared in 40+ years of following football. Always taken the view that you are very unlikely to find trouble if you don't go looking for it but not the case today. We watched Wales match in Bar about 15/20 mins walk on main route to stadium. As we set off from the bar we saw an ominous black clad group marching up the street behind us. We moved over to the side then watched in horror as they ran past, now with masks over their faces and jumped on an England fan whose only 'crime' was to be draped in a flag.
Totally unprovoked and I hope the lad is OK. We ran off down side streets but I now know what tear gas is. Appalling lack of any proper policing / crowd control by French. Their only answer is tear gas. No sign of any normal policing. And what happened in stadium at end was also horrific - we were well away from it fortunately.
A very similar story to the one my son texted me with. So that's two normal football supporters and probably tens of thousands who will confirm the same.
Make that three, my eldest son is out there too, he's staying out of town and hasn't ventured into the harbour bars. Said the Russain charge was frightening but he and his mates got back safely to their apartment.
Safely back where we are staying now but never been so scared in 40+ years of following football. Always taken the view that you are very unlikely to find trouble if you don't go looking for it but not the case today. We watched Wales match in Bar about 15/20 mins walk on main route to stadium. As we set off from the bar we saw an ominous black clad group marching up the street behind us. We moved over to the side then watched in horror as they ran past, now with masks over their faces and jumped on an England fan whose only 'crime' was to be draped in a flag.
Was at the game in the stand it kicked off in. Security shite, Russians pricks. Organisation of how to get out and home after fucking dreadful. Waiting for a bus back now. Roll on 2018
Stay safe getting home!
Cheers mate, just got back to my cousins apartment a bit ago. All buses ended up cancelled and was a bit of a madness for a while running from some of the stuff going on. French police have lost big areas of this city.
I went to Marseille for 98 World Cup and probably the scariest place I have ever been for a game! The local arab youth were attacking the English and then the French right wing were attacking the Arabs. Why on earth would they put England there again?
The lack of segregation in that ground was a serious serious serious lack of judgement by those in charge. I know they had a lot to think about but it's simple, segregate fans as much as possible to limit the chances of any problems.
Worrying scenes as we are yet to get this tournament really under way - the French local yobs aren't helping matters at all by hitting and running, that then brings the Police in (late) who then can only turn to the victims of the attack which turns into a dispute between these sides.
Apart from the usual Trafalgar Square stuff, does anyone remember any trouble over here in '96 from foreign fans? Liverpool is our Marseille I guess, I don't recal anything.
UEFA looking at sanctions for Russia, think it'd be dangerous to let them remain in the competition at this point expecially with England fans being in Lille on Thursday the night after Russia play there. Will no doubt kick off again.
UEFA looking at sanctions for Russia, think it'd be dangerous to let them remain in the competition at this point expecially with England fans being in Lille on Thursday the night after Russia play there. Will no doubt kick off again.
The lack of segregation in that ground was a serious serious serious lack of judgement by those in charge. I know they had a lot to think about but it's simple, segregate fans as much as possible to limit the chances of any problems.
Worrying scenes as we are yet to get this tournament really under way - the French local yobs aren't helping matters at all by hitting and running, that then brings the Police in (late) who then can only turn to the victims of the attack which turns into a dispute between these sides.
Complete chaos.
it was criminally negligent and completely avoidable.
The AFP news agency are reporting that Northern Ireland fans have been drawn into fighting in Nice.
According to a Northern Ireland police officer accompanying fans at the scene, French riot police moved in after local Nice youths hurled bottles at Northern Ireland supporters in cafes near the central Place Massena.
"About 20 to 30 Nice youths started throwing bottles at the Northern Ireland fans. Some bottles were thrown back, some punches were thrown," the officer said.
"French police arrived to contain the situation."
French youths. Again. French police late to react. Again.
How many more times will we have to say "again", considering this is only day 2?
Genuinely, if there's been a fan murdered on the metro and two fighting for their lives in hospital right now then perhaps we should look at withdrawing. The French appear to be completely inept, and setting this precedent may cast a light on the utter idiocy of hosting a World Cup in Russia.
On 5Live now, local Police in Nice say there was no trouble between N Ireland and Polish fans and local French hooligans were 100% responsible for starting agro.
Hopefully Addicks in France won't need it, but just in case, the Foreign Office have tweeted "Brits in France needing consular support can get in touch with the Embassy 24hrs a day on +33 1 4451 3100"
Millwallfan called it right a few pages back, we are sitting ducks out there because of banning orders, have always said, you need a element to back up normal fans otherwise they will get the shit, fuckin disgusted by this tonite , stay safe Organiser and all other English out there
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French police late to react. Again.
How many more times will we have to say "again", considering this is only day 2?
Genuinely, if there's been a fan murdered on the metro and two fighting for their lives in hospital right now then perhaps we should look at withdrawing. The French appear to be completely inept, and setting this precedent may cast a light on the utter idiocy of hosting a World Cup in Russia.
Social media and rolling news make everything seem so much more out of proportion. Not to say it's not just a mere kerfuffle of course.
Think a game in the former Yugoslavia ignited tensions at the outset of the Balkans conflict (I vaguely remember Boban fly kicking a fan) and I'm sure I read once there was a civil war somewhere like Peru decades back that was sparked by a football match.
This will all get more coverage.shock and disapproval that what's going on in Syria and other parts of the world which is pretty nuts when you think about it.
Then he was in the end stormed by the Russian "supporters" but, again, fortunately had just left before it happened. He's just there for the football but, whilst there are going to be some just out there for trouble, a lot aren't but are targeted just because they are English.
His last message to me was "at least it wasn't ISIS". Such is the world we live in.
I hate that Forest echo News shite.
Edit: obviously I hope she is ok, and it has nothing to do with the football.
The French are supposed to be on high alert for terrorist attacks, their forces may be stretched but so far also seem inept.
You try this shit in the UK now and you'll have the horses in in virtually no time. Probably have the army in during the group stages as for the olympics when G4 blatantly couldn't handle it.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/10/french-police-tactics-marseille-more-euro-2016-violence-expert?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Gmail
Totally unprovoked and I hope the lad is OK. We ran off down side streets but I now know what tear gas is. Appalling lack of any proper policing / crowd control by French. Their only answer is tear gas. No sign of any normal policing. And what happened in stadium at end was also horrific - we were well away from it fortunately.
And the Latin American war was between El Salvador and either Honduras or Nicaragua (whichever one borders El Salvador)
But is some of our media really interested in the truth? And are some people so gullible to think that we are the only nation with trouble makers?
I'm going out to marseille for a week on Tuesday. Not seeing any England games. have been looking forward to it for months and now I'm getting nervous about having beers in the sun with my mates. This is 2016 ffs.
Stay safe all those out there.
Only joking Weegie, hope you're ok.
Worrying scenes as we are yet to get this tournament really under way - the French local yobs aren't helping matters at all by hitting and running, that then brings the Police in (late) who then can only turn to the victims of the attack which turns into a dispute between these sides.
Complete chaos.
"Brits in France needing consular support can get in touch with the Embassy 24hrs a day on +33 1 4451 3100"