Left on 74. At first I was surprised at how many appeared to be staying but as I came out of the North, there seemed to be loads spilling out of the East too. Was the guy all right who seemed to have collapsed at the bottom of J block btw? Anyone know?
I walked out and heard the cheer for Harriots goal a couple of hundred yards up the road. Not the first time us scoring a goal has scuppered a demonstration. Some people's heart is just not up for joining in and most of them seem to sit in the East stand .
Wonder if they will be here in league one or two?
I sit in the east stand and don't know why u have picked on us as there was plenty of fans in the north stand who also didn't walk out.
Was airman in the car park at the end? Thought I saw him walking around the protesters and into Harvey gdns?
Answering the question before reading the rest.
Yes, Airman was 100% in the car park, about 80 minutes into the game. .
I was standing about 5 yards away from Airman during the protest. It was a great feeling to see so many people walk out after 74 mins. The protest behind the stand was both loud and passionate. I felt proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with so many people who actually care about the future of the club. Shame on you if you knew about it, but couldn't drag your sorry ass off your seat.
Walked out on 74 minutes. This fight is about much more than a one off unexpected win against Middlesbrough which will mean practically nothing in the grand scheme of things.
This is just what the club want and are relying on, fans turning on each other.
We have to except that not everyone is always going to agree with everything, there are still fans who don't think anything is wrong with the current regime, as one guy said to me today 'I can remember much worse owners', thats his view, there are some who do not like the regime but also do not like the protests, others who agree in the main but not necessarily with everything.
I saw one lady with her children really into the funeral procession until the song came up using the word c"*t.
I spoke to a lady who sits behind me at half time and asked if she was going to walk out, she was in two minds as for the first time this season she said 'they're playing like a team'.
If we start getting all arsey with each other just because everyone doesn't agree with everything CARD suggest and do then we are not much better than Roland and the larger nose one.
We all have to do what we think is right at the time. My husband and I were in two minds whether to walk out or not, but decided to stay, partly because we had left bags in the hospitality suite and probably wouldn't have been allowed back in to get them, but also to cheer on the team.
However I was very angry when I got back to the suite to find the blinds had been pulled down and we couldn't see outside. Having caused a stir the last time I wore the Pinocchio mask, I thought I ought not to pull the blinds up this time and incur the wrath of the club, though I did sneak a quick peek.
instead we made a quick exit from the suite and joined the protest outside.
A walk out was always going to be a very risky decision:
- it was inevitably going to be a low crowd anyway, as the game was televised, with plenty of empty seats throughout the game - we could have been (and indeed were, as it happens) in front or looking like getting a result - It's already been done by Liverpool and Villa and with our lower crowds, comparisons would not be flattering
But we made the decision to go for it, and on balance my view is that the gamble paid off. We had over thousand fans protesting behind the West Stand during a game, and one that we were winning which is an unbelievably good turn out, and the videos I've seen of the stands show the team playing in front of a mostly empty stadium. A real embarrassment for the regime.
It might interest some to know that the protest behind the west stand during the game could be heard inside. I took a Boro supporting friend today who was in the East Stand, and it was remarked that the 'Hey Roland' song could be heard for example.
Left on 74. Didn't want to walk out on a game when we were winning and was gutted to miss Harriot's goal - but felt I should put my money where I felt my mouth was.
I did go straight home as I was concerned some of the more physically emotional protestors might not make them the best place for my youngest lad to be hanging around.
I have no problem with my two brothers-in-law staying to watch the game as they sang the Roland Out chants, blew up their smuggled-in beach balls and got behind the team. They took their protests as far as they wished.
Each to his or her own conscience and preference - which is why scabbing out those with a different opinion does nothing helpful for our cause.
My step son and I walked out on 74 and joined the protest at the back of the West Stand. I wear a black and white scarf and boycott matches, so it would have felt wrong for us to stay while other fans made the sacrifice.
Tough today, my son was on his first witness of a winning a game as a season ticket holder and he pleaded to stay and I couldn't crush him to leave on 74. I am sad to say I stayed, he was delighted to console me that we saw the 2nd goal and was so happy to see us win, yet it felt empty. Seeing jamescafc & johnnyH2 posts make me feel I was wrong but HandG then put me back into turnmoil - it's so tough! Regardless of that, CARD we're brilliant today, hats off and I hope by staying I haven't let you down too much.
Tough today, my son was on his first witness of a winning a game as a season ticket holder and he pleaded to stay and I couldn't crush him to leave on 74. I am sad to say I stayed, he was delighted to console me that we saw the 2nd goal and was so happy to see us win, yet it felt empty. Seeing jamescafc & johnnyH2 posts make me feel I was wrong but HandG then put me back into turnmoil - it's so tough! Regardless of that, CARD we're brilliant today, hats off and I hope by staying I haven't let you down too much.
On the other hand, did Jordan Cousins and the other players deserve to finish that game in front of just the Boro fans?
Of course people have a right to make their own choice. The point the good Inspector and others are making is that if you wear the black and white scarf to affiliate yourself with the protests, then protest with the rest of us. Otherwise what's the point? That just makes you a sheep, wanting to be seen as being part of something when you're not actually prepared to be.
Some protests you'll like some you won't. I've never left a game early in my life but it was important to show solidarity with those other fans who are doing the same to keep the pressure up and hopefully make the difference.
As for this 'support the team' bollocks, I guarantee protesters are as passionate about their team as any other supporter. Isnt it marvellous that some can't spare 16 minutes of their football watching lives to contribute to making the point that it's Roland, Katrien et al who have damaged the team more than anyone, and that the inevitable relegation is entirely unnecessary and entirely their fault. The long term good of the team is worth the 16 minutes in my book.
Sat in my seat watching the game like 98% of other supporters ......
That's complete bollox isn't it 98% you are as good at maths as Meire. The north both upper and lower was nigh on empty
think we need a button for this just after Flag, Quote, Like and LOL - it's the standard response to every colin1961 post - so would save a lot of time
Was sat in sunny Los Angeles wondering all match what I would have done. I'm genuinely not sure. To those that walked out, I applaud you for sticking to your principles. To those who didn't, you have every right. I'm quite sad to see such a successful day end with such bitter comments.
We're all in this together. We'll all be here long after Roland has left. And you will always get dissenting opinions in a crowd. What should make us different is that we're willing to listen to those we don't agree with and treat them with respect as fellow supporters. The civility part of civil disobedience.
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Was the guy all right who seemed to have collapsed at the bottom of J block btw? Anyone know?
It was a great feeling to see so many people walk out after 74 mins. The protest behind the stand was both loud and passionate.
I felt proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with so many people who actually care about the future of the club.
Shame on you if you knew about it, but couldn't drag your sorry ass off your seat.
Phew.
We have to except that not everyone is always going to agree with everything, there are still fans who don't think anything is wrong with the current regime, as one guy said to me today 'I can remember much worse owners', thats his view, there are some who do not like the regime but also do not like the protests, others who agree in the main but not necessarily with everything.
I saw one lady with her children really into the funeral procession until the song came up using the word c"*t.
I spoke to a lady who sits behind me at half time and asked if she was going to walk out, she was in two minds as for the first time this season she said 'they're playing like a team'.
If we start getting all arsey with each other just because everyone doesn't agree with everything CARD suggest and do then we are not much better than Roland and the larger nose one.
Btw, fair enough if you don't feel this way and didn't walk out. I'm not after an argument.
However I was very angry when I got back to the suite to find the blinds had been pulled down and we couldn't see outside. Having caused a stir the last time I wore the Pinocchio mask, I thought I ought not to pull the blinds up this time and incur the wrath of the club, though I did sneak a quick peek.
instead we made a quick exit from the suite and joined the protest outside.
- it was inevitably going to be a low crowd anyway, as the game was televised, with plenty of empty seats throughout the game
- we could have been (and indeed were, as it happens) in front or looking like getting a result
- It's already been done by Liverpool and Villa and with our lower crowds, comparisons would not be flattering
But we made the decision to go for it, and on balance my view is that the gamble paid off. We had over thousand fans protesting behind the West Stand during a game, and one that we were winning which is an unbelievably good turn out, and the videos I've seen of the stands show the team playing in front of a mostly empty stadium. A real embarrassment for the regime.
I did go straight home as I was concerned some of the more physically emotional protestors might not make them the best place for my youngest lad to be hanging around.
I have no problem with my two brothers-in-law staying to watch the game as they sang the Roland Out chants, blew up their smuggled-in beach balls and got behind the team. They took their protests as far as they wished.
Each to his or her own conscience and preference - which is why scabbing out those with a different opinion does nothing helpful for our cause.
I mean, I know I have a fat arse, but that's taking the pish...
Some protests you'll like some you won't. I've never left a game early in my life but it was important to show solidarity with those other fans who are doing the same to keep the pressure up and hopefully make the difference.
As for this 'support the team' bollocks, I guarantee protesters are as passionate about their team as any other supporter. Isnt it marvellous that some can't spare 16 minutes of their football watching lives to contribute to making the point that it's Roland, Katrien et al who have damaged the team more than anyone, and that the inevitable relegation is entirely unnecessary and entirely their fault. The long term good of the team is worth the 16 minutes in my book.
What else would I do ?
Nearly as shocked at London Zoo not having Lions at the moment. You got ripped off for £30 there pal! A zoo without Lions?!
We're all in this together. We'll all be here long after Roland has left. And you will always get dissenting opinions in a crowd. What should make us different is that we're willing to listen to those we don't agree with and treat them with respect as fellow supporters. The civility part of civil disobedience.