I know I'm going to get slaughtered for saying this....but I wonder if I'm alone....I'm almost kind of glad we're losing under KF's temporary period in charge because it's the only thing that may stop him being given the job full time. I know that's not going to be a popular thing to say and I get no pleasure from seeing us in the bottom 3, but I so desperately don't want him in charge.........
I know I'm going to get slaughtered for saying this....but I wonder if I'm alone....I'm almost kind of glad we're losing under KF's temporary period in charge because it's the only thing that may stop him being given the job full time. I know that's not going to be a popular thing to say and I get no pleasure from seeing us in the bottom 3, but I so desperately don't want him in charge.........
But all the managerial appointments and sackings have been the correct decisions!!! KM has said so.
But putting aside the easy snipe at the incompetent arrogant lying CEO............I honestly don't see the point in just getting rid of KF now. Chances are it will just be someone of the same ilk and equall inexperience that takes his place and I don't see what that will achieve. Unless they are seriously looking at getting in a manager different to all the ones they've given us so far, they might as just well leave KF in charge otherwise it's just more pointless upheaval for the players.
A rumour that appeared yesterday. He is the manager of Belgian side Cercle Bruge. He seems to fit the mould of an RD recruit to the network. Cercle Bruge have a 29,000 capacity stadium so similar size. No idea how they compare to us in terms of level or league - but that doesn't appear to matter! See a bit more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederik_Vanderbiest
Got relegated last year and are currently 4th in 2nd division.
This just gets worse.
A bit like Braydex there's a part of me that is not unhappy when we lose at the moment - and I hate that feeling. It's so unlike me, a loss before would have put a real downer on my weekend. I think it's a part of me desperately wanting it to get bad enough for RM and KM to go. I know there's no plan B at the moment, no millionaire ready to shell out for us - but it's got to be better than this surely? Something will turn up. It's like when you've been in a relationship with someone for a long time and you've really gone off them but can't bring yourself to leave because you fear what might happen, and then you wake up one morning and bugger off because you can't stand it anymore. A few months on you realise you should have done it earlier. Part of me fears what would happen if RD left but hearing the latest 'yet another Belgium manager' rumour has really got me down. I would put the flags out if he went. Another loss / ridiculous manager may bring this day closer.
I realise this wont be a popular view but if Brandex would give me a like then I wont feel quite such an outcast! It's just how I feel
Is there any truth in the rumours that the players were out on the lash last night? Might explain why we ran out of steam in the 2nd half, and the fact one of our goals was scored by a lad too young too drink, and the other not permitted to.
I think that was a poor attempt at a wind-up by a Brighton supporter. Why would our team be staying away at a hotel prior to match just down the road?
Is there any truth in the rumours that the players were out on the lash last night? Might explain why we ran out of steam in the 2nd half, and the fact one of our goals was scored by a lad too young too drink, and the other not permitted to.
I think that was a poor attempt at a wind-up by a Brighton supporter. Why would our team be staying away at a hotel prior to match just down the road?
I imagine we stay in a hotel the night before every away game, with the possible exception of the midweek games.
A rumour that appeared yesterday. He is the manager of Belgian side Cercle Bruge. He seems to fit the mould of an RD recruit to the network. Cercle Bruge have a 29,000 capacity stadium so similar size. No idea how they compare to us in terms of level or league - but that doesn't appear to matter! See a bit more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederik_Vanderbiest
Apparently Duchatelet thinks that if someone's good enough for the Belgian second division he'll be good enough for the Championship.
I just had a brief look at the list of Watford's managers since the Pozzo family took over. The biggest difference between Watford and us is that although they, like us, have had a series of managerial changes in a fairly short period of time, each one of the managers they appointed has a 'nicer-looking' CV, if you know what I mean. The clubs they've played for and the clubs they've managed are all well-known clubs. You see the ones such as Barcelona, Valencia, Chelsea, Leicester, Blackburn, Getafe in their profiles. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Watford_F.C._managers
But when you look at the profiles of Bob Peeters, Guy Luzon and Karel Fraeye, how many of the clubs they've worked for have you ever heard of? I've only heard of Millwall and Standard Liege.
I'm not totally against having a non-British manager. But at least I think you should bring in someone a) with a better footballing record (either as a player or manager) or b) with experience of playing or mananging in the British leagues. Is it too much to ask for? Does Duchatelet know someone like that??? Please no more Belgian second division unknowns. If Duchatelet keeps treating us like a Belgian second division club, then we'll perhaps suffer two relegations in a row and end up in League Two!
This Fred guy is managing at the same club Bob Peeters managed at shortly before. Their star player over recent years was Tom De Sutter who we were linked with in the summer. He cant get a game at his current club Bursaspor so would be suprised if he came here in Jan as part of the package. Buy one inadequate manager, get one inadequate player free.
Got relegated last year and are currently 4th in 2nd division.
This just gets worse.
A bit like Braydex there's a part of me that is not unhappy when we lose at the moment - and I hate that feeling. It's so unlike me, a loss before would have put a real downer on my weekend. I think it's a part of me desperately wanting it to get bad enough for RM and KM to go. I know there's no plan B at the moment, no millionaire ready to shell out for us - but it's got to be better than this surely? Something will turn up. It's like when you've been in a relationship with someone for a long time and you've really gone off them but can't bring yourself to leave because you fear what might happen, and then you wake up one morning and bugger off because you can't stand it anymore. A few months on you realise you should have done it earlier. Part of me fears what would happen if RD left but hearing the latest 'yet another Belgium manager' rumour has really got me down. I would put the flags out if he went. Another loss / ridiculous manager may bring this day closer.
I realise this wont be a popular view but if Brandex would give me a like then I wont feel quite such an outcast! It's just how I feel
You write what I feel.
Feel ashamed that my lifelong support is diminishing. Feels dirty, exactly like the relationship analogy you use.
But it's right. I would never support another team I would just sack off football supporting pretty much.
Following a local team where you actually go to the games and know a bit about the players is a whole different ball game to supporting manure. It really is a different mindset.
What's happened under RD makes me question my love for Charlton or to extend your analogy why I still love this lying, cheating, money grabbing charlaton despite knowing it's going to end in tears
The sad thing is KM and RD are so bad for the club, make so many decisions that are not to the advantage of the club that I do not feel it's my club any more. Through thick and thin I have supported the team. I will never be able to support anyone else. Like so many I had Saturday nights after a defeat with the hump and moaned at by the family, even Sunday's had a depressed feeling. But at present I see the result and do not care. Well done RD and KM that's what you have achieved( I would rather be sulking over the result)
This Fred guy is managing at the same club Bob Peeters managed at shortly before. Their star player over recent years was Tom De Sutter who we were linked with in the summer. He cant get a game at his current club Bursaspor so would be suprised if he came here in Jan as part of the package. Buy one inadequate manager, get one inadequate player free.
The sad thing is KM and RD are so bad for the club, make so many decisions that are not to the advantage of the club that I do not feel it's my club any more. Through thick and thin I have supported the team. I will never be able to support anyone else. Like so many I had Saturday nights after a defeat with the hump and moaned at by the family, even Sunday's had a depressed feeling. But at present I see the result and do not care. Well done RD and KM that's what you have achieved( I would rather be sulking over the result)
I feel exactly the same, I think we all do, we are not adverse to abject failure, we've all been there before, seen it before and felt it before... but this time we , finally , have no real link to the players, well most of them, the manager, the club itself, its a takeover that has ignored all of the clubs principals, it's history and it's traditions and in it's place we have these weird Belgians.
Now, if we were running away with the league, if we were playing attractive football and looking good it would be different, we would be able to accept it, but with us getting smashed every week, it just too much to bear...
This Fred guy is managing at the same club Bob Peeters managed at shortly before. Their star player over recent years was Tom De Sutter who we were linked with in the summer. He cant get a game at his current club Bursaspor so would be suprised if he came here in Jan as part of the package. Buy one inadequate manager, get one inadequate player free.
BOGOF
Tom De Sutter played for CLUB Bruges before he left for Bursaspor. That "Fred guy" is coach for Cercle Bruges. Man City and ManU are also two different clubs. Calling Tom De Sutter inadequate is ... well, you don't know him and never saw him play. I'll leave it at that.
I'll be honest. I just want KF out. I hate to say we've hit bottom with his appointment, as theRD/KM circus seems to know no limits in it's imbecility, but KF seems to have pitched up at Valley purely as a result of being a) a friend of RD b) Belgian c) cheap There is no other part of his CV thgat could'nt have been bettered by any number of managers in the UK currently out of work. Any other club would have promoted JJ or Euell to interim manager, and then moved heaven and earth to get in a 'good' manager to avoid relegation. KF will be forever a sign of the incompetence and cronyism that is the corporate ethic of CAFC.
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But all the managerial appointments and sackings have been the correct decisions!!! KM has said so.
But putting aside the easy snipe at the incompetent arrogant lying CEO............I honestly don't see the point in just getting rid of KF now. Chances are it will just be someone of the same ilk and equall inexperience that takes his place and I don't see what that will achieve. Unless they are seriously looking at getting in a manager different to all the ones they've given us so far, they might as just well leave KF in charge otherwise it's just more pointless upheaval for the players.
A bit like Braydex there's a part of me that is not unhappy when we lose at the moment - and I hate that feeling. It's so unlike me, a loss before would have put a real downer on my weekend. I think it's a part of me desperately wanting it to get bad enough for RM and KM to go. I know there's no plan B at the moment, no millionaire ready to shell out for us - but it's got to be better than this surely? Something will turn up. It's like when you've been in a relationship with someone for a long time and you've really gone off them but can't bring yourself to leave because you fear what might happen, and then you wake up one morning and bugger off because you can't stand it anymore. A few months on you realise you should have done it earlier. Part of me fears what would happen if RD left but hearing the latest 'yet another Belgium manager' rumour has really got me down. I would put the flags out if he went. Another loss / ridiculous manager may bring this day closer.
I realise this wont be a popular view but if Brandex would give me a like then I wont feel quite such an outcast! It's just how I feel
Why would our team be staying away at a hotel prior to match just down the road?
I just had a brief look at the list of Watford's managers since the Pozzo family took over. The biggest difference between Watford and us is that although they, like us, have had a series of managerial changes in a fairly short period of time, each one of the managers they appointed has a 'nicer-looking' CV, if you know what I mean. The clubs they've played for and the clubs they've managed are all well-known clubs. You see the ones such as Barcelona, Valencia, Chelsea, Leicester, Blackburn, Getafe in their profiles.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Watford_F.C._managers
But when you look at the profiles of Bob Peeters, Guy Luzon and Karel Fraeye, how many of the clubs they've worked for have you ever heard of? I've only heard of Millwall and Standard Liege.
I'm not totally against having a non-British manager. But at least I think you should bring in someone a) with a better footballing record (either as a player or manager) or b) with experience of playing or mananging in the British leagues. Is it too much to ask for? Does Duchatelet know someone like that??? Please no more Belgian second division unknowns. If Duchatelet keeps treating us like a Belgian second division club, then we'll perhaps suffer two relegations in a row and end up in League Two!
Feel ashamed that my lifelong support is diminishing. Feels dirty, exactly like the relationship analogy you use.
But it's right. I would never support another team I would just sack off football supporting pretty much.
Following a local team where you actually go to the games and know a bit about the players is a whole different ball game to supporting manure. It really is a different mindset.
What's happened under RD makes me question my love for Charlton or to extend your analogy why I still love this lying, cheating, money grabbing charlaton despite knowing it's going to end in tears
which is why we must only appoint managers from one country.
Through thick and thin I have supported the team. I will never be able to support anyone else.
Like so many I had Saturday nights after a defeat with the hump and moaned at by the family, even Sunday's had a depressed feeling. But at present I see the result and do not care.
Well done RD and KM that's what you have achieved( I would rather be sulking over the result)
Now, if we were running away with the league, if we were playing attractive football and looking good it would be different, we would be able to accept it, but with us getting smashed every week, it just too much to bear...
a) a friend of RD
b) Belgian
c) cheap
There is no other part of his CV thgat could'nt have been bettered by any number of managers in the UK currently out of work. Any other club would have promoted JJ or Euell to interim manager, and then moved heaven and earth to get in a 'good' manager to avoid relegation. KF will be forever a sign of the incompetence and cronyism that is the corporate ethic of CAFC.