Lets be honest just one difference between the sides and Charlie Austin was it. Most of our players are lower championship players and that is where will end up. There are worst sides in this division than us so still confident we will stay up and that was our realistic aim at the start of the season. Powell will be a good manager and just hoping our Board dont do anything stupid
Our squad isn't good enough. There is only so much Powell can do. Funny people come on here to say Powell got it wrong, out of his depth. What about the players who couldn't control a football?!
4 - 3 -3 was a brave and positive that made sense tactically. With Wilson and Wiggins at full back we would always have extra service coming from the back with Dervite to cover their runs forward. It meant that our dangermen where all on the pitch. But most of all it was brave and bold and it's good to see that in a manager. The squad is so low on quality, but Powell is trying to work with what he's got.
If he'd gone 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 with the same players he would be lambasted for not experimenting. Can't win with some.
433 wasn't brave it just seemed the act of a desperate man - ludicrous experiment that was never going to work. We just hoofed the ball aimlessly and created nothing. Really p***ed off with CP today.
I travel a round trip of 130 miles for every home game, I pay for a season ticket, am I wrong to expect at least some effort for the whole 90 minutes of a game ? Today we had a back line that at times were a laughing stock at other times making incredible last minute tackles, our midfield engine room seemed to have a piston missing with a complete lack of drive and our front 3 seemed more suited to dancing on ice, that's when they weren't passing the ball to the opposition. As for Burnley, hard working and industrious and with Austin a real goal threat. But Burnley weren't that good, it's just that Charlton were pretty awful. Dog poo comes to mind.
Well said, Redman! I agree totally and wish the the crowd could get behind the team as the groans and boos are demoralising. When will the crowd refind the Cardiff game support?
Absolute chuff for 70mins. Huffed and puffed for the last 20 but could still be out there now and we wouldn't have scored.
Dervite looked like a turkey waiting for Xmas. Didn't want the ball and whenever it came near him he offloaded it (largely to no one or Burnley players) as quick as possible.
Was clear within 15mins the formation wasn't working and we should have gone 4-4-2 at half time.
Fuller vanished second half.
Is Obika anywhere near as good as BWP?
Pitch looks like it is getting worse.
Ultimately it is the fans fault though.
Up until their goal we were the better side and created some decent attacking football. So your "70 minutes of chuff" comment is a load of crap.
Well done to those who booed at half time (Pratts)
You're right. Up until Austin fluked one in the top corner it was like Brazil 1970.
I don't see why people were moaning and booing, surely they'd all settle for mid-table in the first season back, but alas, these could be the ones who expect us to win every week and be up there around the autos. They're deluded. If they hate it that much then they don't have to come and they might as well give up their season ticket and go watch Fulham or something.
Didn't boo, but did moan at the total lack of any ability, imagination,spirit, teamwork (I could go on but why bother).
The problem is keep playing like that & we will be at the bottom not mid-table. I want desperatly to see my team do well not looking like they haven't got a clue.
Well said, Redman! I agree totally and wish the the crowd could get behind the team as the groans and boos are demoralising. When will the crowd refind the Cardiff game support?
FFS its hard to get behind the team when they deliver such dross at home - if Powell wasn't in charge there would be far more booing. Our fans have been incredibly supportive given the dreadful football they've had to watch this season. All this crap blaming the fans gets on my nerves - get real!
I don't see why people were moaning and booing, surely they'd all settle for mid-table in the first season back, but alas, these could be the ones who expect us to win every week and be up there around the autos. They're deluded. If they hate it that much then they don't have to come and they might as well give up their season ticket and go watch Fulham or something.
I would bite your hand off for a mid table finish right now but I honestly think we are going to be dragged into the drop zone and that's what most worries me.
I don't know why you are saying that people expect us to be up around the autos - I certainly don't.
If you don't invest in your squad don't be surprised when your squad can't stand up to the rigours of suspensions/injuries. We looked much worse without Solly and Kerms.
All the people around me expect us to be winning every game. There's someone who moans when we don't have the ball, I wanted to stab him in the eyes today.
The pidgeons had more time on the pitch than the ball. Absolute waste of a Saturday afternoon. Neither team were up to much and only a superb goal separated us from them.
Its a bit like 2 seasons ago when were at our lowest ebb in league one and just treading water before Powell brought everyone in well he may need to do a similar thing in the summer because it has never really clicked in this league. Yes I know mid-table IS good enough but you have to be striving for better or else you go back down. The team is good enough as it is to stay in the championship just but do we really want it to stay like it is. So either bring on the callum harriots who I thought had a good game and get rid of Fuller (who did not). Either way somethiing is missing right now.
Said last week that Dervite, Pritch Inspection and Jacko must be the weakest midfield trio in the division so appalled to see the same midfield trio appear again today but this time with no additional support. Any idiot can see that while Dervite might be a competent centre-back having him jogging aimlessly around the middle third for 90 mins offers us absolutely nothing at all.
Worst I have ever seen Fuller play for us and why did we have strikers on the wings and then refuse to pass to them preferring to blast it first time up the middle to Fuller?
Not Saint Chris's fault we only have one decent enough midfielder in the squad but given that, why not use width?
On a positive note I thought Green was a breath of fresh air and offered energy, technique and flair. Should start every time in my view.
We will get sucked into trouble based on the last two performances.
Dire formation, which prompted a dire performance from a team who did not look up for the game.
The pitch was dire too.
Charlie Austin's goals was quality, which was the only quality moment from either team the whole afternoon.
The formation change at 60 mins was long overdue but it was too late by then. There was more team cohesion after but a total lack of quality in the team was exposed with some completely unimaginative and poor lumping of balls into the Burnley box who easily held on.
If the owners think any decent replacement manager, who would do any better than CP would come to the club with such an obvious lack of investment then they are kidding themselves. The team has been x4 players short at left midfield / right midfield / centre midfield and goal scoring striker for well over a year.
The Charlton owners need to drop the selling price of the club and sell to new owners, who hopefully will not be from a mass mudering regieme or dodgy Portsmouth type businessman with no money. They may be able to support some quality of the pitch and on the pitch. This may allow a push of the premiership and allow all the monies owed to be repaid. It is appreciated keeping the club afloat but the current strategy is not working. Papering over the cracks with rubbish loans is not going to do it. Holding out for a fat pay day may risk their whole investment and the integrity of the club.
It may mean earning less from the whole deal but at least they will have kept their money, and honour and the club will move on.
I don't think you can blame Powell. He opened with 433 to try and give us some attacking impetus. It didn't work so he switched to 442. That gave us greater possession, but our forwards today looked like they wouldn't score if they played all night. That's not the managers fault, that's down to the players. We ended up playing 343 with Cort up front. It was worth a risk as Burnley didn't look interested in attacking from the moment they took Austin off. Unfortunately nothing came of it. I think in reality we really missed Kermorgant today. I'm sure with the number of corners we had he'd have scored. Whilst I think his impetuousness probably didn't cost us anything last week, I reckon that today we'd have had a leat a point, maybe three, with him playing.
Biggest disappointment for me today though was Pritchard. I know others are generally more critical of him than me, but today he just seem to get the ball stuck under his feet all the time.
Said last week that Dervite, Pritch Inspection and Jacko must be the weakest midfield trio in the division so appalled to see the same midfield trio appear again today but this time with no additional support. Any idiot can see that while Dervite might be a competent centre-back having him jogging aimlessly around the middle third for 90 mins offers us absolutely nothing at all.
Worst I have ever seen Fuller play for us and why did we have strikers on the wings and then refuse to pass to them preferring to blast it first time up the middle to Fuller?
Not Saint Chris's fault we only have one decent enough midfielder in the squad but given that, why not use width?
On a positive note I thought Green was a breath of fresh air and offered energy, technique and flair. Should start every time in my view.
We will get sucked into trouble based on the last two performances.
Trouble is he's been given numerous chances and he doesn't take them. Like most of our players it seems I s'pose..
Seems as if Powell is just making do with the best he's got...which is not much really.
No movement up top of note, no attacking midfielder able to play decent passes. All our attacking seems to just be: Cb passes to Lb, who passes to Lm, overlap and cross.
Once a team figures that out we're unable to score. After that we simply resort to hoof-ball with no ball winner on the pitch.
The Charlton owners need to drop the selling price of the club and sell to new owners, who hopefully will not be from a mass mudering regieme or dodgy Portsmouth type businessman with no money.
Even a mass murdering regime is a little bit tempting at the moment.
At this level Powell is totally out of his depth, that Burnley team had one win in seven, so not a great champ side. CP makes Parky look like a master tactician. No pattern to our play,players in wrong positions, hoofball, no Waggy again,Haynes out wide, the bloke is clueless
Whatever tactics/formations Powell tries at the valley do not work. So long as we keep on picking up points on the road we should be ok .. I write should very hopefully. Still, it is OK for me, I only get to watch the valley dross a few times a season. The away games I have seen this season we have looked well organised if boring, and very effective .. I missed the Watford game, possibly THE best performance of the season so far ??????? .. How can a side that played so superbly at vicarage road (I heard the game on the radio) be so abysmal at home ? .. of course, if I knew the answers to my questions I would be a rich and very happy man
I don't think you can blame Powell. He opened with 433 to try and give us some attacking impetus. It didn't work so he switched to 442. That gave us greater possession, but our forwards today looked like they wouldn't score if they played all night. That's not the managers fault, that's down to the players. We ended up playing 343 with Cort up front. It was worth a risk as Burnley didn't look interested in attacking from the moment they took Austin off. Unfortunately nothing came of it. I think in reality we really missed Kermorgant today. I'm sure with the number of corners we had he'd have scored. Whilst I think his impetuousness probably didn't cost us anything last week, I reckon that today we'd have had a leat a point, maybe three, with him playing.
Biggest disappointment for me today though was Pritchard. I know others are generally more critical of him than me, but today he just seem to get the ball stuck under his feet all the time.
- do you think that might have been something to do with the state of the pitch though?
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Powell will be a good manager and just hoping our Board dont do anything stupid
Really p***ed off with CP today.
Dog poo comes to mind.
The problem is keep playing like that & we will be at the bottom not mid-table. I want desperatly to see my team do well not looking like they haven't got a clue.
Our fans have been incredibly supportive given the dreadful football they've had to watch this season.
All this crap blaming the fans gets on my nerves - get real!
I don't know why you are saying that people expect us to be up around the autos - I certainly don't.
Absolute waste of a Saturday afternoon.
Neither team were up to much and only a superb goal separated us from them.
Midfield we are short of quality need improvements in there asap. Up front we looked toothless without Yann there
Another relegation performance.
Said last week that Dervite, Pritch Inspection and Jacko must be the weakest midfield trio in the division so appalled to see the same midfield trio appear again today but this time with no additional support. Any idiot can see that while Dervite might be a competent centre-back having him jogging aimlessly around the middle third for 90 mins offers us absolutely nothing at all.
Worst I have ever seen Fuller play for us and why did we have strikers on the wings and then refuse to pass to them preferring to blast it first time up the middle to Fuller?
Not Saint Chris's fault we only have one decent enough midfielder in the squad but given that, why not use width?
On a positive note I thought Green was a breath of fresh air and offered energy, technique and flair. Should start every time in my view.
We will get sucked into trouble based on the last two performances.
Dire formation, which prompted a dire performance from a team who did not look up for the game.
The pitch was dire too.
Charlie Austin's goals was quality, which was the only quality moment from either team the whole afternoon.
The formation change at 60 mins was long overdue but it was too late by then. There was more team cohesion after but a total lack of quality in the team was exposed with some completely unimaginative and poor lumping of balls into the Burnley box who easily held on.
If the owners think any decent replacement manager, who would do any better than CP would come to the club with such an obvious lack of investment then they are kidding themselves. The team has been x4 players short at left midfield / right midfield / centre midfield and goal scoring striker for well over a year.
The Charlton owners need to drop the selling price of the club and sell to new owners, who hopefully will not be from a mass mudering regieme or dodgy Portsmouth type businessman with no money. They may be able to support some quality of the pitch and on the pitch. This may allow a push of the premiership and allow all the monies owed to be repaid. It is appreciated keeping the club afloat but the current strategy is not working. Papering over the cracks with rubbish loans is not going to do it. Holding out for a fat pay day may risk their whole investment and the integrity of the club.
It may mean earning less from the whole deal but at least they will have kept their money, and honour and the club will move on.
Biggest disappointment for me today though was Pritchard. I know others are generally more critical of him than me, but today he just seem to get the ball stuck under his feet all the time.
I'm bored of walking up the hill after every game discussing how bad we were...
Trouble is he's been given numerous chances and he doesn't take them. Like most of our players it seems I s'pose..
No movement up top of note, no attacking midfielder able to play decent passes. All our attacking seems to just be:
Cb passes to Lb, who passes to Lm, overlap and cross.
Once a team figures that out we're unable to score. After that we simply resort to hoof-ball with no ball winner on the pitch.
The away games I have seen this season we have looked well organised if boring, and very effective .. I missed the Watford game, possibly THE best performance of the season so far ??????? .. How can a side that played so superbly at vicarage road (I heard the game on the radio) be so abysmal at home ? .. of course, if I knew the answers to my questions I would be a rich and very happy man