[cite]Posted By: JT[/cite]Oh lord, please go up there.
He would be a fool to leave Saints.
I think Celtic is a bigger club than Southampton.
I thought they wanted Roy Keane though?
Of course they're bigger, but even League One is a better league than the SPL...
And it'd kill his career when/if he fails. Nowhere near as much money at Celtic relative to their ambitions compared to Southampton. It'd be a mad decision for him to go there, but he might.
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]How ridiculous.
Not a fan of him as a person but he has a decent track record of getting teams promoted. Nor do I think he is a clueless manager.
They've given him a lot of money to spend and while the results have been patchy there is a strong enough squad there to win it next year.
But I guess that's the way things are with very rich investors who want instant success.
Leeds made the play offs the other season despite starting on -15 points. With the money they've spent i don't think it was that out of the question to expect them to make the play offs. As it stands, even with the 10 points back they'd have only scraped into 6th on goal difference.
That said i do think it'd be silly to sack him as he's built a decent side that will probably be title favourites next season.
Why would he? He is very lucky to be at a club with money and a good chance of winning the league next season as the suffering increases at other clubs.
(The penalty for going into administration should be more severe)
[cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]Why would he? He is very lucky to be at a club with money and a good chance of winning the league next season as the suffering increases at other clubs.
(The penalty for going into administration should be more severe)
Well it is more servere for those who cheat their creditors. We didn't so only got 10 points which has costed this season.
At least we got punished for going into administration, unlike Pompey who cheated HMRC . . . .
Not a comment on Southampton directly, and you are spot on about Portsmouth - they should've had a 20 point penalty this season and next. Southampton and Palace should be facing 10 point penalties next season too. Obviously if we go into administration I hope we get off with a one season 10 point penalty too - but it is still lax.
There are rumours at st marys that Allen Pardew is set to be sacked at some point over the weekend because of the clubs failure to make the play-offs. The fact that all matchday programmes were removed from sale before kick-off today only adds to the specualtion. Buts as i say, just rumours.
Not sure what the programmes being removed from sale would prove or disprove
as an aside I had a coupe of quid on Lambert for league 1 top scorer and just got my £40 from betfair. Even better as I'd forgotten I'd placed that bet!
[cite]Posted By: Folev the red[/cite]There are rumours at st marys that Allen Pardew is set to be sacked at some point over the weekend because of the clubs failure to make the play-offs.
Well they did kind of make them. They garnered just one point less than us over the season and without the ten pts deduction, we'd have been playing Soton instead of Swindon in the semis...now that really would have been a horrible prospect!
[cite]Posted By: Folev the red[/cite]There are rumours at st marys that Allen Pardew is set to be sacked at some point over the weekend because of the clubs failure to make the play-offs. The fact that all matchday programmes were removed from sale before kick-off today only adds to the specualtion.
Buts as i say, just rumours.
Plenty of rumours doing the rounds, Gus Poyet has confirmed that one of their defenders has rejected a contract at Brighton to talk to Saints.
The match day programmes were in the club shop being sold until 10:30, the people who got one say it is just a normal programme. Pardew's manager notes had nothing wrong with them.
BBC Radio Solent had confirmed after the match that the content inside wasn't the reason as to why the programmes never went on sale.
Some people say Markus Liebherr wasn't at the ground today because he was disappointing with the clubs progress this season. He doesn't strike me as the type who throws his toys out of his pram. Someone on SaintsWeb said he was ill, who knows.
A rumour doing the rounds down here is that Wednesday will be the day when everything is cleared up. . .
[cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Glad Southampton didn't make it, but would they have been taken over and had so much money invested without going into administration?
Nope, we'd still be owned by that cunt Lowe and heading to League Two.
[quote][cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]Not a comment on Southampton directly, and you are spot on about Portsmouth - they should've had a 20 point penalty this season and next. Southampton and Palace should be facing 10 point penalties next season too. Obviously if we go into administration I hope we get off with a one season 10 point penalty too - but it is still lax.[/quote]
Did creditors get paid offin fullor was it a CVA (i.e. xp in the £)?
It would be almost funny if it wasn't for the fact that he'll likely leave with yet another huge pay off. I can never forgive that man for the state in which he left our club. If he had any integrity he'd have left us with an apology rather than a pay off.
As much as i don't like the bloke he's built a quality team there which will only get stronger over the summer, he's consolidated them and they'll have a strong chance of winning the league next season and he got them to a Wembley final and won a trophy. Sacking him would be ridiculous in my opinion. Yes he's had a lot of money to spend but since when did that guarantee success. They had a dodgy patch at the start of the season as the team were getting to know each but since the first 7-8 games their form was probably title winning form.
he made personal assurances to the board whilst asking for players that he would make a team that will get in the playoffs barnard and puncheon were his missing players, they had a good go but fell short i reckon he is safe for another season, but he is not loved by all at saints thats for sure
Calderon is the Brighton player (who scored that very good goal against us at The Valley), who has rejected a new contract and agreed to sign for Soton.
[cite]Posted By: Swisdom[/cite]The infrastructure was there already. Big ground and lots of fans
a good squad already there
he comes along with stacks of cash, outbids anyone else in this division, and fails to make theplayoffs
not good enough I'm afraid
I might be reading this wrong, but are you saying that the team we came down with was a good one?
That team would have been relegated to League Two.
Admittedly not amazing but llallana is one of the best players in the division. Davis one of the better keepers. You had a few good kids too I recall.
He didn't walk in to a great team - but it certainly wasn't a complete train wreck
[cite]Posted By: Swisdom[/cite]The infrastructure was there already. Big ground and lots of fans
a good squad already there
he comes along with stacks of cash, outbids anyone else in this division, and fails to make theplayoffs
not good enough I'm afraid
I might be reading this wrong, but are you saying that the team we came down with was a good one?
That team would have been relegated to League Two.
Admittedly not amazing but llallana is one of the best players in the division. Davis one of the better keepers. You had a few good kids too I recall.
He didn't walk in to a great team - but it certainly wasn't a complete train wreck
Lallana was shocking last season, I think Pardew has made him the player he is at the moment.
Imho even with the 10 point deduction, if a team can afford to spend as much as Pardew has then they should be at least where Saints are finished. Therefore he has not done a great job, done what many managers would have done. In fact I would go so far to say that most managers would have got Saints at least into play offs even with -10 points to start.
[cite]Posted By: Saints fan[/cite]Lallana was shocking last season, I think Pardew has made him the player he is at the moment.
I can't think of any Charlton players that Pardew trained on. The only contender would be Reid and Pardew sold him quickly and spunked the money on rubbish. I know i sound bitter but believe me he's going to mess it up for you too.
[cite]Posted By: Swisdom[/cite]The infrastructure was there already. Big ground and lots of fans
a good squad already there
he comes along with stacks of cash, outbids anyone else in this division, and fails to make theplayoffs
not good enough I'm afraid
I might be reading this wrong, but are you saying that the team we came down with was a good one?
That team would have been relegated to League Two.
Admittedly not amazing but llallana is one of the best players in the division. Davis one of the better keepers. You had a few good kids too I recall.
He didn't walk in to a great team - but it certainly wasn't a complete train wreck
Lallana was shocking last season, I think Pardew has made him the player he is at the moment.
he was young and in a team playing poorly - that's all.
This season he's a year older and playing in a winning team. I'm fairly sure Pardew isn't responsible for much there
it seems Pardews transfer policy was "see who league 1's teams try to buy and outbid them". It nearly worked too
Pardew's performance this season would have to be a kind of C+/B-, it falls into the acceptable but mildly dissapointing range given their financial advantage over the rest of the division.
I mean, ourselves and the Spanners had not a single pot to piss in and (giving Saints their 10 points back), still finished in front of them and Swindon would have been on only a single point less.
So, while calling Saints season a failure would be OTT, you could say that given the cash they have spent that they have been slightly below where they should have been - especially when you look at what Lambert did with Norwich.
I bloody hate Pardew but it would be stupid for them to sack him.
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I think Celtic is a bigger club than Southampton.
I thought they wanted Roy Keane though?
And it'd kill his career when/if he fails. Nowhere near as much money at Celtic relative to their ambitions compared to Southampton. It'd be a mad decision for him to go there, but he might.
Not a fan of him as a person but he has a decent track record of getting teams promoted. Nor do I think he is a clueless manager.
They've given him a lot of money to spend and while the results have been patchy there is a strong enough squad there to win it next year.
But I guess that's the way things are with very rich investors who want instant success.
Leeds made the play offs the other season despite starting on -15 points. With the money they've spent i don't think it was that out of the question to expect them to make the play offs. As it stands, even with the 10 points back they'd have only scraped into 6th on goal difference.
That said i do think it'd be silly to sack him as he's built a decent side that will probably be title favourites next season.
(The penalty for going into administration should be more severe)
At least we got punished for going into administration, unlike Pompey who cheated HMRC . . . .
Buts as i say, just rumours.
as an aside I had a coupe of quid on Lambert for league 1 top scorer and just got my £40 from betfair. Even better as I'd forgotten I'd placed that bet!
Well they did kind of make them. They garnered just one point less than us over the season and without the ten pts deduction, we'd have been playing Soton instead of Swindon in the semis...now that really would have been a horrible prospect!
The match day programmes were in the club shop being sold until 10:30, the people who got one say it is just a normal programme. Pardew's manager notes had nothing wrong with them.
BBC Radio Solent had confirmed after the match that the content inside wasn't the reason as to why the programmes never went on sale.
Some people say Markus Liebherr wasn't at the ground today because he was disappointing with the clubs progress this season. He doesn't strike me as the type who throws his toys out of his pram. Someone on SaintsWeb said he was ill, who knows.
A rumour doing the rounds down here is that Wednesday will be the day when everything is cleared up. . .
Nope, we'd still be owned by that cunt Lowe and heading to League Two.
Did creditors get paid offin fullor was it a CVA (i.e. xp in the £)?
digusting, disgrace.... appalling....failiure..
a good squad already there
he comes along with stacks of cash, outbids anyone else in this division, and fails to make theplayoffs
not good enough I'm afraid
That team would have been relegated to League Two.
Admittedly not amazing but llallana is one of the best players in the division. Davis one of the better keepers. You had a few good kids too I recall.
He didn't walk in to a great team - but it certainly wasn't a complete train wreck
Lallana was shocking last season, I think Pardew has made him the player he is at the moment.
I can't think of any Charlton players that Pardew trained on. The only contender would be Reid and Pardew sold him quickly and spunked the money on rubbish. I know i sound bitter but believe me he's going to mess it up for you too.
he was young and in a team playing poorly - that's all.
This season he's a year older and playing in a winning team. I'm fairly sure Pardew isn't responsible for much there
it seems Pardews transfer policy was "see who league 1's teams try to buy and outbid them". It nearly worked too
I mean, ourselves and the Spanners had not a single pot to piss in and (giving Saints their 10 points back), still finished in front of them and Swindon would have been on only a single point less.
So, while calling Saints season a failure would be OTT, you could say that given the cash they have spent that they have been slightly below where they should have been - especially when you look at what Lambert did with Norwich.
I bloody hate Pardew but it would be stupid for them to sack him.