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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Stockport County: Saturday 19th October 2024: KO 15:00

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    edited October 2024
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    And I'll tell you when they stop. When it becomes evident to most people, led by Curbs, "where the goals are coming from".
  • bromleyjohn
    bromleyjohn Posts: 5,986
    We missed Jones and Coventry and thought Leaburn made a positive impact. Felt good at the end and applauded a good attacking second half. Docherty doesnt do enough. Anderson makes mistakes but you cant fault his work rate. Taylor good on dead ball stuff but needs to be stronger in open play. Leaburn needs more games. Onwards and upwards.
  • Brown59
    Brown59 Posts: 236
    Good performance overall. Joke defending to allow the ball to bounce to gift them the penalty. Should have been cleared we can argue if it was or wasn’t but we need to deal with that better. To be fair apart from there keeper being shot by a sniper to go down he had a pretty decent game and was the reason we didn’t win. We had enough chances to win comfortably and on another day we would. At least we’re getting the chances. Just a shame it takes us to go a goal down before we go forward. Couple of players not on it today but overall we were pretty ok. 
    Exciting game to watch and come on Charlton. 
  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 577
    We honestly did deserve to win today and we were not helped by the incompetent wanker pretending to be a referee.
    still unable to turn great chances into Goals,
    onwards and upwards 👍👍👍
  • Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.

    His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.

    I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.

  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    edited October 2024
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    And I'll tell you when they stop. When it becomes evident to most people, led by Curbs, "where the goals are coming from".
    So, when we start getting the goals for column looking healthier we can all forget about Alfie May can we...great, i've already moved on, and will be forever thankful for his contribution to our great club...but this if only stuff is rather tedious now...
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    edited October 2024
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    And I'll tell you when they stop. When it becomes evident to most people, led by Curbs, "where the goals are coming from".
    Rather than who’s gonna score the goals, it’s more a case of who’s gonna see the goals. 

    Both yesterday and Birmingham game I missed both our goals taking my son to the toilet. In my last four games all I’ve seen is a Luke Berry stoppage time consolation. My two away games so far have drawn blanks. 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    I can definitely see Taylor and Coventry playing together in midfield, with both able to play the more defensive role and break forward. Got to be a better option than Docherty and Campbell.
  • Taylor excellent on set pieces and had a good game. Like to see him stay in with Coventry starting at Barnsley on Tuesday.

    Anderson/Campbell/Doc in the first half a lack of showing for the ball and when they did not enough in terms of getting forward and creating chances.

    2nd half better with the changes with doc and A Campbell going off and getting Berry on the ball and moving TC out wide allowing him to cause problems running at them. Good to see Leaburn back. Should have scored that chance when Dixon played him in with the back heel.

    Hopefully the Ramsey injury is not serious and Jones is back this week. 
  • 801912601
    801912601 Posts: 620
    Massive difference in our second half performance. Starting with a midfield of Alan Campbell, Docherty & Anderson playing offers no creativity or forward momentum. Hopefully NJ will look to only play 2 of them 3 moving forward
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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    And I'll tell you when they stop. When it becomes evident to most people, led by Curbs, "where the goals are coming from".
    Rather than who’s gonna score the goals, it’s more a case of who’s gonna see the goals. 

    Both yesterday and Birmingham game I missed both our goals taking my son to the toilet. In my last four games all I’ve seen is a Luke Berry stoppage time consolation. My two away games so far have drawn blanks. 
    Quite obviously if Alfie May had been playing then your toilet habits would have been entirely different.
  • Jam tomorrow 
  • Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    And I'll tell you when they stop. When it becomes evident to most people, led by Curbs, "where the goals are coming from".
    Rather than who’s gonna score the goals, it’s more a case of who’s gonna see the goals. 

    Both yesterday and Birmingham game I missed both our goals taking my son to the toilet. In my last four games all I’ve seen is a Luke Berry stoppage time consolation. My two away games so far have drawn blanks. 
    Sounds to me like you’re the problem. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    We are six points behind (my) target for automatic promotion.
    That means winning every remaining home game, and drawing every remaining away game bar three, which we have to win.

    I was unsettled by the absence of Jones yesterday, but Mitchell and Dizzy did well, but then came the disaster of Ramsey. Luckily REG played better than he did at Cambridge, plus scoring the goal.

    Those of us who have consistently said Taylor takes a better set piece than Coventry were proved right. I wonder about dropping the pretty meh Campbell (not TC)and playing both Taylor and Coventry. Or even drop Docherty who has hardly made much of an impact so far.

    Tyreece Campbell was our best player yesterday in my view. It might make those who gleefully wrote him off previously think again. If for example QPR came in for Tyreece in January, how much would you demand? For me it would be quite a bit more than we got for Alfie May.

    Dixon and Leaburn (Leaburn for longer) were great to watch yesterday.

    The Stockport support was arguably the best away support so far this season.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.

    For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.

    Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Only saw the last half hour - did Godden miss chances or just not get involved in the game?

    On the May comparison, even if we kept May and he scored 25 in the league, that could still be 21 league games he’d fail to score in, and fewer than that if he scored 2 or more in a match. I doubt Godden will score as many as May did last season, but he’s capable of 15+ if the service, game time and right partner alongside him.

    Once Leaburn is ready to start I’d like to see him alongside Godden. I’m sure with Leaburn up there we’d create more chances. Sounds like Taylor played well and his set pieces were dangerous, that could make a big difference too.

    Sounds like the better football has continued too rather than reverting to long ball. More to improve on but there’s enough there to not completely give up on this season.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,328
    Scoham said:
    Only saw the last half hour - did Godden miss chances or just not get involved in the game?

    On the May comparison, even if we kept May and he scored 25 in the league, that could still be 21 league games he’d fail to score in, and fewer than that if he scored 2 or more in a match. I doubt Godden will score as many as May did last season, but he’s capable of 15+ if the service, game time and right partner alongside him.

    Once Leaburn is ready to start I’d like to see him alongside Godden. I’m sure with Leaburn up there we’d create more chances. Sounds like Taylor played well and his set pieces were dangerous, that could make a big difference too.

    Sounds like the better football has continued too rather than reverting to long ball. More to improve on but there’s enough there to not completely give up on this season.
    Just not very involved. Looked better with Leaburn on the pitch. He can't hold the ball up so he needs a physical player next to him.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Stig said:
    Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.

    For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.

    Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
    It has been a minor obsession of mine this Autumnal part of the season, but at the Valley, and watching a lot of football clips on the television, it seems the glare of the sun at the low seasonal angles has affected a lot of games and players up and down the land.
    I thought the coming together that led to the penalty was affected by the sunlight and wonder if Mannion wearing a peaked cap would have prevented his seeming recklessness.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,328
    One of the conundrums is that we look better offensively with Berry on the pitch but far worse defensively, his pressing is an obvious weak spot in a team that plays that way. I really hoped we'd turned the corner with A Campbell and Docherty after their Birmingham displays but they reverted to their previous levels yesterday.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited October 2024
    We seem to always look a different side with a proper focal point up front. As soon as Leaburn came on we totally dominated and it was wave after wave of attack. What a crying shame we brought in Ahadme who can't do the job.

    Hopefully that's Miles fit for the season now because he was excellent. 
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  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,032
    I can see us bringing in a new left sided centre half in January, I can also see us bringing in a more conventional playmaker, I do feel like Jones has identified our weaknesses at this point. Feeling a lot more patient than after the 3 back to back losses after a great performance yesterday
  • Definitely need another CB in January. Potts barely featuring and only plays CB in a 3. Mac cannot play as a 2. CAM and CB are must for the January window  
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Taylor excellent on set pieces and had a good game. Like to see him stay in with Coventry starting at Barnsley on Tuesday.

    Anderson/Campbell/Doc in the first half a lack of showing for the ball and when they did not enough in terms of getting forward and creating chances.

    2nd half better with the changes with doc and A Campbell going off and getting Berry on the ball and moving TC out wide allowing him to cause problems running at them. Good to see Leaburn back. Should have scored that chance when Dixon played him in with the back heel.

    Hopefully the Ramsey injury is not serious and Jones is back this week. 
    Unfortunately this seems unlikely. As well as NJ's comment post-match, somebody on here posted pre-match that he has a lower left leg stress fracture and out for 8 weeks. When challenged on his source he replied "Horse's mouth, I'm afraid". I don't know the poster at all but he's on here long term, not an excitable social media kid, sounds like he sits in the West near the action, and correctly called that Edwards hadn't broken anything after his injury. And while I've been critical about our injuries record in the past, this sounds like a really random problem , just as Ramsey's was an in-game incident that could happen to anyone. Grim. But that's why we have a squad. Birmingham were without Stansfield yesterday (injured on - get this - England U21 duty, (FFS)), and they didn't seem to miss him...
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.

    His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.

    I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.

    May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited October 2024
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.

    His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.

    I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.

    May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
    10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    edited October 2024
    Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
    when you're perfect in every way.
    I can't wait to look in the mirror
    cause I get better looking each day.
    To know me is to love me
    I must be a hell of a man.
    Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
    but I'm doing the best that I can...🙄
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Chunes said:
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.

    His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.

    I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.

    May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
    10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
    413 games, 182 goals for even wider context?

    It’s properly boring that every time Charlton don’t win, his name gets brought up. Even promotion winning teams only win roughly half their games so I guess I’ll have to strap in for another 20 odd (at least) post match threads where discussion descends into Alfie May chat.

    It’s like this forum’s Godwin’s law, for a lower League journeyman striker.
  • I didn’t think it was a pen, Mannion touched the ball & the forward ran into him, the lino didn’t give it, the ref did.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Chunes said:
    Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
    Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.

    His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.

    I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.

    May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
    10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
    413 games, 182 goals for even wider context?

    It’s properly boring that every time Charlton don’t win, his name gets brought up. Even promotion winning teams only win roughly half their games so I guess I’ll have to strap in for another 20 odd (at least) post match threads where discussion descends into Alfie May chat.

    It’s like this forum’s Godwin’s law, for a lower League journeyman striker.
    I mean yesterday it is quite reasonable considering the amount of chances we couldn't finish. 

    Can't really say he wouldn't have received any service yesterday like people would normally do the other weeks...
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,041
    Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it