Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
I can't see what else Mannion could've done tbh. He can't just stop dead avoiding all contact, but under current interpretations, maybe that is still a penalty?
Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.
His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.
I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.
May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
413 games, 182 goals for even wider context?
It’s properly boring that every time Charlton don’t win, his name gets brought up. Even promotion winning teams only win roughly half their games so I guess I’ll have to strap in for another 20 odd (at least) post match threads where discussion descends into Alfie May chat.
It’s like this forum’s Godwin’s law, for a lower League journeyman striker.
Don't find it boring at all. It was always going to be a big part of the story this season.
Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.
His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.
I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.
May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
413 games, 182 goals for even wider context?
It’s properly boring that every time Charlton don’t win, his name gets brought up. Even promotion winning teams only win roughly half their games so I guess I’ll have to strap in for another 20 odd (at least) post match threads where discussion descends into Alfie May chat.
It’s like this forum’s Godwin’s law, for a lower League journeyman striker.
Don't find it boring at all. It was always going to be a big part of the story this season.
It’s like a TV show killing off the main character and then the next series turning out to be sh*t. Of course people will talk about the killed off character, it’s natural
Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.
His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.
I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.
May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
413 games, 182 goals for even wider context?
It’s properly boring that every time Charlton don’t win, his name gets brought up. Even promotion winning teams only win roughly half their games so I guess I’ll have to strap in for another 20 odd (at least) post match threads where discussion descends into Alfie May chat.
It’s like this forum’s Godwin’s law, for a lower League journeyman striker.
Don't find it boring at all. It was always going to be a big part of the story this season.
It’s like a TV show killing off the main character and then the next series turning out to be sh*t. Of course people will talk about the killed off character, it’s natural
He'll probably turn up in the shower and it was all a dream...🤦♂️
maybe its me but modern football is just about 70 minutes of boredom / attrition / chess and then a few changes and a match starts - same with the england game the other day - games used to go on for 90+ minutes, not 20+
It's not just you!
Yesterday I was bored rigid for an hour watching a game of hoof ball and trying not to laugh at our midfielders hopelessly wandering around the pitch trying to find someone to tackle.
Suddenly a few creative players are introduced and you get fifteen minutes of exciting football + fifteen minutes of injuries / substitutions and general time wasting. Then a bizarre few minutes of "extra time" when players mainly sit on the pitch injured.
Over a 90 minute game Charlton would probably beat Stockport 95% of the time. I don't understand why Nathan Jones effectively kills the game off for 65 minutes and then attempts to win in the last twenty five minutes even against vastly inferior teams.
Nowadays, to get out of this league you have to win nearly every game - not just be a bit more solid than the other teams around you.
You have to be in it to win it (or whatever the slogan is)!
Not sure what some people were watching to say that was an entertaining game. 100 minutes of freekicks and time wasting. We finish games strongly - Jones is clearly big on stamina and athleticism - which makes Stockport's time wasting from the penalty onwards even more self defeating.
Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.
His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.
I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.
May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
How dare you Callum, do you realise the angst you will cause by coming on here and being factual about Alfie May ! Sleep like a crocodile Callum, one eye open, only then will you have a chance of avoiding your sad demise.
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
would like to see Potts/Z Mitchell. Not sure Terry could cope with a double Mitchell axis though
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
would like to see Potts/Z Mitchell. Not sure Terry could cope with a double Mitchell axis though
I think Potts a better option than Gillphrey but, sadly, not a better option than Jones.
I think a lot went against us yesterday so am happy we didn't lose. It seems at the moment that if T Campbells defelected shot in the first half was from an opponent it goes in. Their player slices it and if we did it it goes in (even though we scored from the corner), but we didn't get the run of the ball yesterday. Leaburn is showing that as soon as he is fully fit and starting games, we are going to win a lot with him. I'm not giving up on the season just yet.
As everyone has said we was very unfortunate not to win that game. This squad has put in a couple of performances now that demonstrate we can put a run of victories together once things click. As ever with us it will be interesting to see if we can perform on a Tuesday night in Barnsley !!! I don’t doubt we will next Saturday but Tuesday is a massive indication of our potential this season
I can’t knock the effort today, but why do all our strikers look good only when they come off the bench, we need to start on the front foot and get the lead because we normally see out games when we do this.
Agreed. Would love to see what the Gassman could offer coming off the bench. Obviously Aneke but TC and even Godden always look better when coming on. Hopefully with Leaburn we might soon have a starting striker that offers a threat...
Instructions from NJ maybe ? Said it many times, (even before we signed him) he is a very poor signing.
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
would like to see Potts/Z Mitchell. Not sure Terry could cope with a double Mitchell axis though
I think Potts a better option than Gillphrey but, sadly, not a better option than Jones.
Potts is too small to play in a two, probably REG also only an option in a three. Not sure why we signed him (Dan). Wiredu a better option.
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
would like to see Potts/Z Mitchell. Not sure Terry could cope with a double Mitchell axis though
I think Potts a better option than Gillphrey but, sadly, not a better option than Jones.
Potts is too small to play in a two, probably REG also only an option in a three. Not sure why we signed him (Dan). Wiredu a better option.
Can always count on the “If only we had May” comments to come up if we don’t win a game…😴
Hardly surprising after yesterday because if May had been playing I'd have put good money on us winning that game.
His replacement Godden had a stinker and our other new striker Ahadme had probably his best game of the season for us sitting up in the stand.
I think Jones was mad forcing May out and it is a decision that will come back to haunt him big time.
May has scored 1 in his last 8 for context.
10 games, 5 goals, 3 assists for wider context
413 games, 182 goals for even wider context?
It’s properly boring that every time Charlton don’t win, his name gets brought up. Even promotion winning teams only win roughly half their games so I guess I’ll have to strap in for another 20 odd (at least) post match threads where discussion descends into Alfie May chat.
It’s like this forum’s Godwin’s law, for a lower League journeyman striker.
Don't find it boring at all. It was always going to be a big part of the story this season.
It’s like a TV show killing off the main character and then the next series turning out to be sh*t. Of course people will talk about the killed off character, it’s natural
Weren't it Police Squad that used to get a top star in and kill em off in the opening scene? Lol
Best performance I've seen for a while but I wasn't at the Brum match. Took my friend to see his first ever football game in England. He thinks we look good as a team, ramani Edmonds green is shit, he also respected the hassle of Stockport. His favourite moment was when Stockport told their player to go down and the rest of their players ran to the manager. I told him they practice being cnuts in training and it worked because we dropped two points. Speaking with a Stockport fan after the game, we both agreed if Stockport had kept on playing football they would have won.
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
I can't see what else Mannion could've done tbh. He can't just stop dead avoiding all contact, but under current interpretations, maybe that is still a penalty?
Genuinely don't know.
Looking at the highlights Mannion missed his kick and his studs went into the Stockport player.
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
would like to see Potts/Z Mitchell. Not sure Terry could cope with a double Mitchell axis though
I think Potts a better option than Gillphrey but, sadly, not a better option than Jones.
Potts is too small to play in a two, probably REG also only an option in a three. Not sure why we signed him (Dan). Wiredu a better option.
Isn’t he 5 ft 11, but there’s an internet myth that he’s 5 ft 8? Not big for a CB, but not as small as some believe.
I can’t knock the effort today, but why do all our strikers look good only when they come off the bench, we need to start on the front foot and get the lead because we normally see out games when we do this.
Agreed. Would love to see what the Gassman could offer coming off the bench. Obviously Aneke but TC and even Godden always look better when coming on. Hopefully with Leaburn we might soon have a starting striker that offers a threat...
Instructions from NJ maybe ? Said it many times, (even before we signed him) he is a very poor signing.
Just wasn’t our day. Another day we could have had 3 or 4 goals there. Stockport rode their luck but the penalty was real keystone cops from us so, in the end, we didn’t deserve to win. The penalty and our missed chances cost us.
a point each seems fair enough to me, Stockport are a decent team and have got the art of (to coin a phrase) 'acceptable cheating' like time wasting, feigning injury and the like, down to an art under old hand Challinor .. we missed Jones the giant and we all REALLY hope that Ramsey's injury is not too serious .. ironic that his replacement score our goal .. L1 is as tough as ever and i m o we are almost holding our own, BUT still room for major improvement.
I thought he had a great game and was a massive influence whereas Docherty and A Campbell were too anonymous.
I think any midfielder who doesn't create tends to seem anonymous Mutley, I can't fault their work rate but we had four players in our midfield and they all worked hard but only one, Taylor, demonstrated an ability to change the game in our favour. I think Jones needs to find a system that accommodates both Coventry and Taylor, whether that would work is anyone's guess.
Anderson created one of our best chances of the match with his pressing and won tons of throw ins with his pressure on their defenders which then led to chances. He does loads of the unattractive dirty work. I have no idea why he gets slated on here so often, he’s a 19yr old academy graduate who never gives up, chases every ball and plays with his heart on his sleeve. It’s everything fans say they want from players but for him it’s not good enough
Yes Anderson never gives up, chases every ball and plays with his heart on his sleeve - brilliant. The downside is his passing is very poor and his control isn't great.
I thought he had a great game and was a massive influence whereas Docherty and A Campbell were too anonymous.
I think any midfielder who doesn't create tends to seem anonymous Mutley, I can't fault their work rate but we had four players in our midfield and they all worked hard but only one, Taylor, demonstrated an ability to change the game in our favour. I think Jones needs to find a system that accommodates both Coventry and Taylor, whether that would work is anyone's guess.
Anderson created one of our best chances of the match with his pressing and won tons of throw ins with his pressure on their defenders which then led to chances. He does loads of the unattractive dirty work. I have no idea why he gets slated on here so often, he’s a 19yr old academy graduate who never gives up, chases every ball and plays with his heart on his sleeve. It’s everything fans say they want from players but for him it’s not good enough
Yes Anderson never gives up, chases every ball and plays with his heart on his sleeve - brilliant. The downside is his passing is very poor and his control isn't great.
Agreed but without him the more technical players like Taylor/Coventry have to to do tonnes more running. It’s L1 and he’s 19, he’s not going to be fully rounded
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Genuinely don't know.
Yesterday I was bored rigid for an hour watching a game of hoof ball and trying not to laugh at our midfielders hopelessly wandering around the pitch trying to find someone to tackle.
Suddenly a few creative players are introduced and you get fifteen minutes of exciting football + fifteen minutes of injuries / substitutions and general time wasting. Then a bizarre few minutes of "extra time" when players mainly sit on the pitch injured.
Over a 90 minute game Charlton would probably beat Stockport 95% of the time. I don't understand why Nathan Jones effectively kills the game off for 65 minutes and then attempts to win in the last twenty five minutes even against vastly inferior teams.
Nowadays, to get out of this league you have to win nearly every game - not just be a bit more solid than the other teams around you.
You have to be in it to win it (or whatever the slogan is)!
Took my friend to see his first ever football game in England. He thinks we look good as a team, ramani Edmonds green is shit, he also respected the hassle of Stockport. His favourite moment was when Stockport told their player to go down and the rest of their players ran to the manager. I told him they practice being cnuts in training and it worked because we dropped two points.
Speaking with a Stockport fan after the game, we both agreed if Stockport had kept on playing football they would have won.
Edit: 5 ft 10 on the OS, 5 ft 8 on Wikipedia.
The downside is his passing is very poor and his control isn't great.