We have some very strange fans who seem to want to be negative doomsayers at every opportunity. If it had been a drab game then the Xg stats would have been splashed all over this thread as evidence of how shit we are! But oh no, zero mention of it but instead lots of banging on about Alfie May.
Yes I’d have liked him to stay but he didn’t want to. Maybe in part due to his relationship NJ but more likely his family’s wishes and a whopping pay rise (for which I don’t blame him).
Come on lads. Credit where it’s due. We created loads and that’s after a freak incident which led to us going behind early doors. We deserved to win that game hands down and of course we can always say we need and should have been more clinical but sometimes it just doesn’t go in.
Fully in agreement to lambast them for performances such as that at Bristol R but let’s have a bit of positivity after playing well in the last two games. Hopefully a turning point in our season 🙏🏼
Preparation -surely someone must have researched the opposition and warned the defence about the long range of the opposition GK? defenders were desperately trying to get back and surprised by the length of clearance for their goal.
Awareness - Gillesphy is not aware of the attacker on his right cutting in until its too late in the conceded goal. - Anderson lays the ball off to the right in an attack (on EFL highlights) when Godden was in abetter position to the left. He doesn't appear to look around except to the RHS where he delivers the ball to TC.
Overall a good entertainment, we were thwarted by the opposition GK who made some decent saves.
Leaburn didn't score any goals and didn't provide any assists, surely those are the reasons for him being in the side, so he wasn't very good then????? - mmmm??????
Presumably you didn't watch the game where he ran them ragged at times?
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball with his hand and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
I do know that in the Liverpool v Chelsea game, a similar incident occurred, albeit the ball was on the deck.
The Chelsea goalie kicked the ball first and then clattered the player and a penalty wasn't given. So I don't think Stockport should have had a penalty.
All I can say in defence of the referee, was it was far clearer from behind the goal and not clear watching on TV or presumably from the ref's view.
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
I do know that in the Liverpool v Chelsea game a similar incident occurred, albeit the ball was on the deck. The Chelsea goalie kicked the ball first and then clattered the player and a penalty wasn't given. So I don't think Stockport should have had a penalty. All I can say in defence of the referee, was it was far clearer from behind the goal than watching on TV and presumably from the ref's view.
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
I do know that in the Liverpool v Chelsea game a similar incident occurred, albeit the ball was on the deck. The Chelsea goalie kicked the ball first and then clattered the player and a penalty wasn't given. So I don't think Stockport should have had a penalty. All I can say in defence of the referee, was it was far clearer from behind the goal than watching on TV and presumably from the ref's view.
Don’t think Mannion cleared the ball?
5 of us sitting together in the middle of the Upper Covered End right behind the incident all saw Mannion clear the ball before clattering into their player. You can't see it on TV, but it was clear from behind Mannion.
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball with his hand and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
The way I look at it is, if Mannion hadn't touched the ball, then it's a pen, seeing as he touched it, if anything, it should have been our free kick, as their played went into Mannion.
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball with his hand and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
The way I look at it is, if Mannion hadn't touched the ball, then it's a pen, seeing as he touched it, if anything, it should have been our free kick, as their played went into Mannion.
Well Jones was adamant it wasn’t a penalty in the South London Press article talking about soft contact.
Post match stuff, mainly it's me moaning about how shit the ref was, if that's anyone's cup of tea, cheers
Good video @Braziliance... I will say you were very reserved in your condemnation of the ref, the guy was a dick of the first order, and deserves to be relegated to National League level. Watched on stream, so didn't see the keeper actually go down, but it was so pre planned it was ridiculous and needs stamping out, at least the rest of the team have to remain in the centre circle while it lasts... Fair play for your coverage again, and look forward to watching the Barnsley and Wrexham victory coverage...🍺🍺
Unpopular opinion but that’s kind of ok. The idea wasn’t that Godden or Ahadme come in and score the same amount of goals as May but that goals are more spread out across the team which is more sustainable in the long run
We have some very strange fans who seem to want to be negative doomsayers at every opportunity. If it had been a drab game then the Xg stats would have been splashed all over this thread as evidence of how shit we are! But oh no, zero mention of it but instead lots of banging on about Alfie May.
Yes I’d have liked him to stay but he didn’t want to. Maybe in part due to his relationship NJ but more likely his family’s wishes and a whopping pay rise (for which I don’t blame him).
Come on lads. Credit where it’s due. We created loads and that’s after a freak incident which led to us going behind early doors. We deserved to win that game hands down and of course we can always say we need and should have been more clinical but sometimes it just doesn’t go in.
Fully in agreement to lambast them for performances such as that at Bristol R but let’s have a bit of positivity after playing well in the last two games. Hopefully a turning point in our season 🙏🏼
Alfie May only got a whopping pay rise because we wanted to sell him. He didnt put in a transfer request knowing that Brum were going to pay him £15k per week.if anything he was just about to sign for Huddersfield for a lot less.
Does my nut in all this rewriting of history.
He's gone & I respect that. But please dont try telling me that we are better without him.
Post match stuff, mainly it's me moaning about how shit the ref was, if that's anyone's cup of tea, cheers
Nice vid again mate, good to meet you. Forgot I said we'd miss Lloyd Jones, shame that turned out to be true. Agree with your assessment at the end - probably our best all-round performance and hopefully things are starting to click now
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
I can't see what else Mannion could've done tbh. He can't just stop dead avoiding all contact, but under current interpretations, maybe that is still a penalty?
Genuinely don't know.
Mannion started to come for the ball, but then changed his mind. My initial view was that if he had been more decisive in the first place, the situation could have been avoided. I may be being a bit harsh though.
Mannion had the sun in his eyes and no cap on, leading to his indecision I guess.
It’s been a bugbear of mine for years , that winter sun for afternoon matches is right at The Covered End goal and each and every divvy keeper appears not to bother with a cap, essential equipment for a lower league keeper .Always better to have the option if required .
If NJ really thinks that was alright he’s madder than he looks it was almost as shit as the Rovers game or Shrewsbury the standard is execrable defensively it is awful save for Ramsey! attack is toothless 12th flatters that blundering unimaginative rabble of dimwits and clunkers
Taylor mostly looked adequate and Mannion had nothing to do everybody else needs lots of work
Think you are having a laugh, first half their keeper made at least 3 decent saves, 2nd half we could have had a pen, think ref cost us 2 points, he was absolute rubbish. Perhaps you stayed in the Royal Oak or Prince or (King) of Denmark got pissed and didn't go to the game?
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
I do know that in the Liverpool v Chelsea game a similar incident occurred, albeit the ball was on the deck. The Chelsea goalie kicked the ball first and then clattered the player and a penalty wasn't given. So I don't think Stockport should have had a penalty. All I can say in defence of the referee, was it was far clearer from behind the goal than watching on TV and presumably from the ref's view.
Don’t think Mannion cleared the ball?
He didn’t . At the time I didn’t think it was a pen but seeing the replay , the ref had no choice. It’s the defenders, though , that put Mannion in that position in the first place .
Surprised there hasn't been much talk about the penalty. Is the consensus here that it was fair? From where I sat, it looked like Mannion was absolutely right to challenge and that he won the ball first. Expected people on here to be fuming about it.
For the most part it was a dull game against a bunch of spoilers, officiated by a buffoon of the highest order. The time wasting antics are beyond a joke now. This has to be stopped, it is ruining the game. And yes, I would say exactly the same if it was us.
Thought Leaburn coming on made a huge difference for us. Both in upping the skill level and the atmosphere. The last half hour was a joy to watch; the first hour, not so much. I love the way that Leaburn's physicality belies his skill. He's much like Chucks in that respect. I'd love to see the pair of them up front terrorising defences. Though I suppose we'll never see that for more than twenty minutes at a time.
Mannion cleared the ball and then collided with their player. Years ago that is not a foul. What is the law now, I don't know?
I do know that in the Liverpool v Chelsea game a similar incident occurred, albeit the ball was on the deck. The Chelsea goalie kicked the ball first and then clattered the player and a penalty wasn't given. So I don't think Stockport should have had a penalty. All I can say in defence of the referee, was it was far clearer from behind the goal than watching on TV and presumably from the ref's view.
Don’t think Mannion cleared the ball?
He didn’t . At the time I didn’t think it was a pen but seeing the replay , the ref had no choice. It’s the defenders, though , that put Mannion in that position in the first place .
As I said above you 100% can't see that he cleared the ball on the TV/highlights and I'm sure anyone watching on the highlights thinks I need to go to Specsavers. But you could from behind the goal. All 5 of us thought so.
Leaburn didn't score any goals and didn't provide any assists, surely those are the reasons for him being in the side, so he wasn't very good then????? - mmmm??????
Presumably you didn't watch the game where he ran them ragged at times?
I did watch and saw that Leaburn might "have run them ragged" but it did not achieve anything i.e. no goals no assists , so what good did he do except excite some fans
Not sure what else Mannion could do but realistically if it’s at the other end we’d be screaming for a penalty. The problem comes earlier, Gillesphey should have dealt with it
Was the foul by Mannion? Or was it by Gillesphey pushing the striker into Mannion?
If we are changing to 4 at the back we need a new centre back in January. Don’t trust Gillesphey at all in a back 4
100%. Massively depleted without Jones. Zak isn’t that player as yet.
Leaburn didn't score any goals and didn't provide any assists, surely those are the reasons for him being in the side, so he wasn't very good then????? - mmmm??????
Presumably you didn't watch the game where he ran them ragged at times?
I did watch and saw that Leaburn might "have run them ragged" but it did not achieve anything i.e. no goals no assists , so what good did he do except excite some fans
You collated the marks and saw he was ranked our 2nd best player. A player cannot be judged solely on his goals and assists, that would be foolish in the extreme. I'll say no more on the subject.
That's interesting Golfie, so you are declaring that Matt Godden is outscoring Alfie then. I bow to your stats, Alfie May ten starts five goals, Matt Godden four starts three goals. Alfie May was benched once and has been fit from the seasons start, Godden's first start for us was against Rotherham, Godden has also been benched and been brought on five times. The upshot of all that is that you can reel off a 'he scored more than them statement' but what you fail to mention is that the player brought in to replace Alfie May is Godden, and on a game to goals ratio, he is out-scoring Alfie May, glad we sold the shot shy little bugger now lol.
Comments
-surely someone must have researched the opposition and warned the defence about the long range of the opposition GK?
defenders were desperately trying to get back and surprised by the length of clearance for their goal.
Awareness
- Gillesphy is not aware of the attacker on his right cutting in until its too late in the conceded goal.
- Anderson lays the ball off to the right in an attack (on EFL highlights) when Godden was in abetter position to the left. He doesn't appear to look around except to the RHS where he delivers the ball to TC.
Overall a good entertainment, we were thwarted by the opposition GK who made some decent saves.
Years ago that is not a foul.
What is the law now, I don't know?
I do know that in the Liverpool v Chelsea game, a similar incident occurred, albeit the ball was on the deck.
The Chelsea goalie kicked the ball first and then clattered the player and a penalty wasn't given.
So I don't think Stockport should have had a penalty.
All I can say in defence of the referee, was it was far clearer from behind the goal and not clear watching on TV or presumably from the ref's view.
Post match stuff, mainly it's me moaning about how shit the ref was, if that's anyone's cup of tea, cheers
You can't see it on TV, but it was clear from behind Mannion.
Godden 3
Aneke 1
Ahadme 1
Kanu 0
Campbell 0
Leaburn 0
I will say you were very reserved in your condemnation of the ref, the guy was a dick of the first order, and deserves to be relegated to National League level.
Watched on stream, so didn't see the keeper actually go down, but it was so pre planned it was ridiculous and needs stamping out, at least the rest of the team have to remain in the centre circle while it lasts...
Fair play for your coverage again, and look forward to watching the Barnsley and Wrexham victory coverage...🍺🍺
Does my nut in all this rewriting of history.
He's gone & I respect that. But please dont try telling me that we are better without him.
But you could from behind the goal. All 5 of us thought so.
A player cannot be judged solely on his goals and assists, that would be foolish in the extreme.
I'll say no more on the subject.