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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Rowett would be an excellent appointment11
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Rowett or Jones would be very good, anyone else at this point apart from Warnock and I’d be disappointed.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Rowett would be an excellent appointment14 -
And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..3
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So are you saying it's between those 2? I'd be delighted if that's the case as either would be a statement appointment in my opinionDubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett1 -
Mainly because the appointment was the wrong one in the first place.NapaAddick said:Since Lee Bowyer left in 2021, excluding caretakers, our managers have lasted (including cups)....Nigel Adkins..... 7 months, 26 matchesJohnnie Jackson.... 7 months, 40 matchesBen Garner...... 6 months, 29 matchesDean Holden..... 8 months, 32 matchesMichael Appleton..... 5 months, 29 matchesIncluding caretakers, since 2014 we've had 16 managers. In a decade.That's as many managers as CAFC had in total (including caretakers) from 1967 to 2014. 47 years.2 -
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett5 -
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett0 -
and not having a replacement lined up is the biggest issue for me.The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett4 -
I know people want a quick appointment due to the transfer deadline, but I personally don't mind the delay If it means they get the right person to move the club forward.
This is arguably the most important appointment in the club's history & it's vital they get this one right15 -
100% agree..Gravesend_Addick said:I know people want a quick appointment due to the transfer deadline, but I personally don't mind the delay If it means they get the right person to move the club forward.
This is arguably the most important appointment in the club's history & it's vital they get this one right
They had 2 choices, a manager to get us out of this mess this season, then look to recruit another manager in the summer.. If that was the case, that would be have been a quick and simple option.. Or go for a long term manager, which would always take it's time.. They are pretty lucky that there are some good managers without work at the moment, so does give a lot of options.9 -
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So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly6 -
I think they’re all gonna do a shit job for us and stick by that until we’re in The Championship and woe betide any Cnut taking the EFL Cnut trophy serious trying to brainwash our twunt fan base that that’s some type of success.
shithouse league and a shithouse club until in the championship2 -
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.7 -
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett3 -
Not getting rid of Appleton weeks ago when it was obvious he was not up to the job was a mistake.
Not having a replacement lined up to take over was another mistake.
But when it's Andy Scott in charge of things I'm really not surprised.
The sooner our American owners realise that he is incompetent and replace him the better.
Under this clown we are sleepwalking into league Two.15 -
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!Scoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.5 -
How many more failed managerial appointments and signings is he going to be allowed? It’s no wonder the owners are stepping in here. Hard to trust him.blackpool72 said:Not getting rid of Appleton weeks ago when it was obvious he was not up to the job was a mistake.
Not having a replacement lined up to take over was another mistake.
But when it's Andy Scott in charge of things I'm really not surprised.
The sooner our American owners realise that he is incompetent and replace him the better.
Under this clown we are sleepwalking into league Two.2 -
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday gameThe Red Robin said:
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett4 -
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?DubaiCAFC said:
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday gameThe Red Robin said:
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case1 -
But how often have we signed players that the next manager is then not happy with and doesn’t use? It was obvious Appleton was going to be sacked, if we’d done it a bit earlier we could have got a manager in to influence tomorrow so that we sign players he will actually useScoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.2 -
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Yes.. I believe so. Scott thought they might be able to get win with him in charge.Gravesend_Addick said:
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?DubaiCAFC said:
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday gameThe Red Robin said:
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case0 -
The fact the comms were all lined up and published within minutes after the match ended shows that his sacking was planned & he was going no matter what.DubaiCAFC said:
Yes.. I believe so. Scott thought they might be able to get win with him in charge.Gravesend_Addick said:
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?DubaiCAFC said:
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday gameThe Red Robin said:
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case12 -
Just because it has been easier, as you say, to gain information in the past, that doesn’t make it healthy now with the constant amount of leaking from within the club to outside sources.DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..I know it is a time of social media etc. where people want/expect instant updates and news. Personally, just think it is more professional to have discussions and make decisions within the board, before sharing tidbits every day to be shared on forums etc.4 -
Jones 2/9
Duff 4/1
Two horse race now.1 -
What a bunch of amateurs! I was fearful going into this season with the boards bad reputation but I never imagined we’d be in a relegation fight and looking for our 3rd manager of the season in January. This lot are a disaster, Sack the board!DubaiCAFC said:
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday gameThe Red Robin said:
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett4 -
Was only a few sentences though. If it was all pre-planned it might have been a bit better thought out.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
The fact the comms were all lined up and published within minutes after the match ended shows that his sacking was planned & he was going no matter what.DubaiCAFC said:
Yes.. I believe so. Scott thought they might be able to get win with him in charge.Gravesend_Addick said:
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?DubaiCAFC said:
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday gameThe Red Robin said:
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.DubaiCAFC said:
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..The Red Robin said:
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.DubaiCAFC said:Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case2 -
Too much because we appointed managers with completely different styles of play and formation preferences. Shouldn’t be as much of an issue now if we appoint a better manager we can stick with for longer and sign better players to properly back that manager.NabySarr said:
But how often have we signed players that the next manager is then not happy with and doesn’t use? It was obvious Appleton was going to be sacked, if we’d done it a bit earlier we could have got a manager in to influence tomorrow so that we sign players he will actually useScoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
The main issue was picking Appleton in the first place which was down to the budget we had for managers. As well as lacking the ability as manager he also didn’t have the personality or connection to the club which would have got more fans behind him and bought him more time. Didn’t have the squad to carry him either, summed up by how badly the loans worked out.
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Cawley’s said managerial appointments aren’t entirely down to Scott, the ownership is involved in those decisions too. Makes sense as it explains the confusion over whether Appleton had been sacked or not.blackpool72 said:Not getting rid of Appleton weeks ago when it was obvious he was not up to the job was a mistake.
Not having a replacement lined up to take over was another mistake.
But when it's Andy Scott in charge of things I'm really not surprised.
The sooner our American owners realise that he is incompetent and replace him the better.
Under this clown we are sleepwalking into league Two.1 -
Just skimmed 292 posts to find out....nothing has changed since yesterday. Hopefully more meaningful progress today.1
Where have you seen those odds ?
