Regardless who did you intend to refer to in your update?
So not directly employed by Charlton, he is part of GFP.
I would say it is a split on the U.K. board over Jones.
My query though was who do you understand to be the (UK) Board?
Im not being facetious I just don’t know who that set of people are in the context of deciding the manager.
Methven, Carter, Rodwell, Elliot, Scott and Lenagan (which is a person who doesn't seems to be out the spot light, but seems to have a bigger say than most)
I am officially going mad. Last night I had a dream (nightmare) that the club announced the new manager..........Appleton. They decided there was no better options, so reappointed him. Woke up convinced this had happened 😳
I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Nigel Pearson 3/1 - Neil Warnock 4/1 - Michael Duff 5/1 - John Eustace 5/1 - Mark Bonner 10/1 - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1 - 16/1 bar
27th January morning update…
- Nathan Jones 1/2 - Alex Neil 7/2 - Neil Warnock 6/1 - Michael Duff 6/1 - Nigel Pearson 8/1 - John Eustace 10/1 - 20/1 bar
28th January update…
- Nathan Jones 2/1 - Mark Warburton 2/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 6/1 - Michael Duff 8/1 - Neil Warnock 8/1 - Nigel Pearson 10/1 - John Eustace 12/1 - 20/1 bar
29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
30th January…
- Nathan Jones 4/7 - Mark Warburton 4/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 8/1 - Neil Warnock 10/1 - Michael Duff 10/1 - Nigel Pearson 12/1 - Darren Moore 14/1 - 20/1 bar
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS - Gary Rowett 2/1 - Mark Warburton 5/1 - Alex Neil 10/1 - Michael Duff 12/1 - Neil Warnock 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 14/1 - Darren Moore 16/1 - 20/1 bar
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Isnt everything 50/50, I mean either they do or they dont?
And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
So are you saying it's between those 2? I'd be delighted if that's the case as either would be a statement appointment in my opinion
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
and not having a replacement lined up is the biggest issue for me.
I know people want a quick appointment due to the transfer deadline, but I personally don't mind the delay If it means they get the right person to move the club forward.
This is arguably the most important appointment in the club's history & it's vital they get this one right
I know people want a quick appointment due to the transfer deadline, but I personally don't mind the delay If it means they get the right person to move the club forward.
This is arguably the most important appointment in the club's history & it's vital they get this one right
100% agree..
They had 2 choices, a manager to get us out of this mess this season, then look to recruit another manager in the summer.. If that was the case, that would be have been a quick and simple option.. Or go for a long term manager, which would always take it's time.. They are pretty lucky that there are some good managers without work at the moment, so does give a lot of options.
And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.
That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
I think they’re all gonna do a shit job for us and stick by that until we’re in The Championship and woe betide any Cnut taking the EFL Cnut trophy serious trying to brainwash our twunt fan base that that’s some type of success. shithouse league and a shithouse club until in the championship
And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.
That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..
Not getting rid of Appleton weeks ago when it was obvious he was not up to the job was a mistake. Not having a replacement lined up to take over was another mistake. But when it's Andy Scott in charge of things I'm really not surprised. The sooner our American owners realise that he is incompetent and replace him the better. Under this clown we are sleepwalking into league Two.
And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.
That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!
Not getting rid of Appleton weeks ago when it was obvious he was not up to the job was a mistake. Not having a replacement lined up to take over was another mistake. But when it's Andy Scott in charge of things I'm really not surprised. The sooner our American owners realise that he is incompetent and replace him the better. Under this clown we are sleepwalking into league Two.
How many more failed managerial appointments and signings is he going to be allowed? It’s no wonder the owners are stepping in here. Hard to trust him.
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday game
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday game
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case
And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.
That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
But how often have we signed players that the next manager is then not happy with and doesn’t use? It was obvious Appleton was going to be sacked, if we’d done it a bit earlier we could have got a manager in to influence tomorrow so that we sign players he will actually use
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday game
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case
Yes.. I believe so. Scott thought they might be able to get win with him in charge.
Also just to clarify, there are no cracks on the board, there might be disagreements on appointments of managers or sacking managers, but that doesn't mean there are cracks or falling outs.. It is actually health to have differing opinions and ideas on the table.. And some might not agree.. But if the majority agree, they will go with it..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
Still, sacking someone and then not sacking someone without a consensus is pretty amateur.
May have not been sacked him to his face, but in terms of agreement of the board.. And timelines of when things were due to happen..
if we all knew, then Appleton knew.
100% as I mentioned earlier, was bang out of order, allowing him to go in to that Tuesday game
Out of interest, do you think he would've been sacked last Tuesday regardless of the result?
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case
Yes.. I believe so. Scott thought they might be able to get win with him in charge.
The fact the comms were all lined up and published within minutes after the match ended shows that his sacking was planned & he was going no matter what.
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Eight board members. Eight co-owners. Holden appointed for eight months.
Anyone else spotted the sinister pattern emerging here?
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..
If you ask me, do I think they will appoint Jones,50/50 but I wouldn't write off Rowett
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS
- Gary Rowett 2/1
- Mark Warburton 5/1
- Alex Neil 10/1
- Michael Duff 12/1
- Neil Warnock 12/1
- Nigel Pearson 14/1
- Darren Moore 16/1
- 20/1 bar
This is arguably the most important appointment in the club's history & it's vital they get this one right
They had 2 choices, a manager to get us out of this mess this season, then look to recruit another manager in the summer.. If that was the case, that would be have been a quick and simple option.. Or go for a long term manager, which would always take it's time.. They are pretty lucky that there are some good managers without work at the moment, so does give a lot of options.
shithouse league and a shithouse club until in the championship
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Not having a replacement lined up to take over was another mistake.
But when it's Andy Scott in charge of things I'm really not surprised.
The sooner our American owners realise that he is incompetent and replace him the better.
Under this clown we are sleepwalking into league Two.
As you say,out of order to send him out for the game if that was the case