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Next Manager Search - August 2023

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,036
    edited September 2023
    supaclive said:
    Andy Scott has hardly proven himself in two transfer windows to date.

    Whether that's the restrictions he's working under or all his own doing doesn't matter - that's what the new Head Coach will find himself working under.

    This is looking more and more like a shit sandwich.
    12 new signings .. think proved himself 
    Your posts have zero credibility.

    If we went down you would paint a rosy picture.

    But, hang on, you only post for a reaction.
  • So all we need is someone who's:

    Experienced with a proven track record of success at this level or higher 

    Tactically asute

    Able to motivate players

    Strict with players

    Able to win games

    Organise a defense

    Willing to work under a director of football 

    Accepts that it's a three window project so we won't get promoted this season.

    Happy to see young players sold to cut costs.

     Can't see a problem myself 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Scoham said:

    Why did he not buy the club then and show us how it’s done .. instead for the second time run away 
    As soon as I saw the post of Varney’s tweet I was waiting for it and you did not disappoint. 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Valley11 said:
    Addick_8 said:
    seth plum said:
    JamesSeed said:
    seth plum said:
    JamesSeed said:
    No chance. If we win four of those games I’d be very surprised. Three would be a more realistic target, sadly. 
    Realism is so last……whenever.
    If it is right to take one game at a time, then take the next eight games one at a time, and win them one by one.

    I am not interested in excuses or reasons any more.
    We’re all desperate to win games Seth. 🙁
    Do you believe Charlie Methven is desperate for Charlton Athletic to win games?
    I would need a hell’ve a lot of convincing to believe that.
    Jesus Christ.
    Chris Powell has already said no. 
    But Robert Powell gave it a good go
  • Scoham said:

    Why did he not buy the club then and show us how it’s done .. instead for the second time run away 
    Can't believe I'm feeding the troll, with the following based on what (from memory) has been previously posted

    A) varney has never been directly involved with an parties interested in buying the club, purely introduced them
    B) I think it was airman that said that the parties wanted all assets and couldn't get in front of people selling the assets
    C) Varneys tweet isn't wrong

    apart from that, I think you are spot on 😂


  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    edited September 2023
    Why would U want to troll your own?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    Personally I’d invite the final 11 shortlist all down at the same time:

    Appleton, Cowley, Bowyer, Big Ron, Mick Harford, Millwall Mick McCarthy, Hoddle, Paul Jewell, Chris Houghton, Frank Lampard and Bobby Gould.

    Get em in a big room, hire one of those kids gaming party companies and set up a PlayStation console each. All start the season as Charlton on Football Manager, same squad, same budget and off you go. First one to win the Premier League gets the job. 

    Couple of the wrinkles might need an intern to do the controller for them, but got to be better than a panel competency based interview. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Saturdays match against fleetwood we knew all about stockley when he played for us he had 2 centre backs marking him 1 in front and 1 behind whenever the ball came to him he was in a wrestling match with the centre backs. 
    Against us Saturday Anderson was picking him up for the goal and Dobson was marking him at corners. 
    Where are our centre backs and what are they doing has Pearce said to them what ever you do don’t mark stockley. 
    I doubt it so what is happening who’s fault players or management. They’re professional footballers and they defend like school boys 
    And a feeble effort to stop the cross in the first place, when the winger should have been double marked. 
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901

    Managers can’t perform magic, although some people seem to think they can. They’re not David Copperfield or Harry Potter. They can’t work miracles or sprinkle some magical dust to make players know how to play football.

    Spending hours on analysis isn’t very useful. It doesn’t put you in better conditions to win the game. The tactics, the schemes, they’re all bull***t. Of course tactics matter, but players win the game. For 45 minutes at a time, players make their own decisions. Football is a continuous sport in which the coach has barely any influence, less than in any other sport.

    Success depends on having top players and top players cost money. It’s impossible to achieve results without spending a lot of money. Where you finish in the league depends on the money you’ve spent. It’s a statistical fact. Clubs can change coaches but if the players are the same, results stay the same.



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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    Personally I’d invite the final 11 shortlist all down at the same time:

    Appleton, Cowley, Bowyer, Big Ron, Mick Harford, Millwall Mick McCarthy, Hoddle, Paul Jewell, Chris Houghton, Frank Lampard and Bobby Gould.

    Get em in a big room, hire one of those kids gaming party companies and set up a PlayStation console each. All start the season as Charlton on Football Manager, same squad, same budget and off you go. First one to win the Premier League gets the job. 

    Couple of the wrinkles might need an intern to do the controller for them, but got to be better than a panel competency based interview. 

    Throw in John Sitton too. According to Wikipedia we turned him down for a youth coach position based on how he was perceived following this documentary. https://youtu.be/XVj45yN72uU?si=5-WZVLBalmsTtiQj
  • The BPP (Bollocks per post) average on this thread is off the charts.
    And you’ve just added to it 
  • Is John Sitton available, great video of him in charge at Orient!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    The BPP (Bollocks per post) average on this thread is off the charts.
    And you’ve just added to it 
    And so have you…..

    Could be here all day.
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    At the moment we have a team of talented youngsters, bar Dobbo, May and the dodgy Hector. Rather than hire the tired old Cowleys, Appleton or even Bowyer again, I'd give Frank Lampard a short contract to perform a miracle. The players would respect him and he might give them a winning mentality. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    The BPP (Bollocks per post) average on this thread is off the charts.
    It’s certainly filling the gap until the next takeover thread very nicely.
  • Doesn't really matter who the next manager is as we've seen in the past with Holden/Garner/Jackson/Atkins etc. Every season is the same, recruit average L1 and L2 players, top up with loans and academy players and expect to be challenging for top 6. It's just not going to happen. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Strangely for me as our ex captain and coach, Pearcey does not come across as a manager in the making. 
  • Can’t quite understand why our defence is such a shambles because without a doubt it is. The red flags were up and Flying V Aberdeen and they’ve remained visible. You’d expect that Hector, Jones and Thomas would be quite capable of marshalling the back four and yet those three are at the core of the issue. I think we progressed Ness too quickly last season before he was ready and now he’s regressed and looks completely without confidence. Edun looks sound and the other new boys are unknown quantities. Something must change soon though. New man has to get to grips with it. 
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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    edited September 2023
    Looking at that Sitton video again...thing is, did the OTT half time "chat" work, I mean what was the final score...🙄
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    How are Jones and Thomas at the core of the issue?
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Is John Sitton available, great video of him in charge at Orient!

    Had this saved as a draft post and had Sitton in mind when writing it -

    Still think that if the right person comes in, who is capable of cracking the whip and once the injuries are back, there's no reason why this squad of players, baring 2 or 3, can't go somewhere
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    supaclive said:
    Andy Scott has hardly proven himself in two transfer windows to date.

    Whether that's the restrictions he's working under or all his own doing doesn't matter - that's what the new Head Coach will find himself working under.

    This is looking more and more like a shit sandwich.
    12 new signings .. think proved himself 
    Very odd  post - it’s the quality that counts.


  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,222
    Can’t quite understand why our defence is such a shambles because without a doubt it is. The red flags were up and Flying V Aberdeen and they’ve remained visible. You’d expect that Hector, Jones and Thomas would be quite capable of marshalling the back four and yet those three are at the core of the issue. I think we progressed Ness too quickly last season before he was ready and now he’s regressed and looks completely without confidence. Edun looks sound and the other new boys are unknown quantities. Something must change soon though. New man has to get to grips with it. 
    Can understand why Holden was chopping and changing the defence on a regular basis trying to find a solution. 

    Sadly it wasn’t rectified during the close season. Whoever comes in next as a tough job on their hands
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541
    edited September 2023

  • Leuth said:
    How are Jones and Thomas at the core of the issue?
    All three senior centre backs have been pretty awful. That’s why.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited September 2023
    Bubble said:

    Interesting choice... Looking at his record, age etc. he sounds the sort of gamble I'd be happy with us making.

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  • Leuth said:
    How are Jones and Thomas at the core of the issue?
    All three senior centre backs have been pretty awful. That’s why.
    Our defenders are good....if you ignore the handful of goals they concede freely every single game without fail. 
  • Bubble said:

    Interesting choice... Looking at his record, age etc. he sounds the sort of gamble I'd be happy with us making.
    Might as well go for a non league manager. 
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